asked for a bigger raise today...

[SP33Demon]

Very glad I don't have to grovel for a well deserved raise.

 

[purbeast0]

Very glad I don't have to grovel for a well deserved raise.

eh, considering i'm about the 75% percentile for salary in my field (according to salary.com), have incredible benefits as it is, don't even work 40 hours a week, i'm completely content with my pay. i think it's just a simple matter of fact that everyone wants more money and i think i can actually get it considering how good i'm doing.

me personally, i wouldn't consider "talking to someone for 5 minutes" groveling.

 

[rcpratt]

Very glad I don't have to grovel for a well deserved raise.

Aren't you amazing. How can we be more like you?

 

[SlitheryDee]

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Let me put it to you this way: Anyone working 40 hours in the Big 4 is getting canned... Or any top consulting company. Anyone here can confirm that for you.

you are wrong! Purebeast0 is a class act!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

heh, you do make a good point. however, as mentioned, this company is NOT the norm and unlike any other company i've worked for. i think it would be better for me to just be honest with them and tell them exactly how i feel, rather than say i'm unhappy (when i'm not) because morals and ethics in general is something that this company REALLY stresses in general.

Like I said--you are a class act!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

I always voice when I need more money, but that's when I *need* more money to do the job I am doing. If you're happy with the pay and just want more money for the heck of it, then you're striving after the wind.

I've declined raises when they weren't large enough to retain me. I then tell them what it takes and that's what I get. The day they don't give me what it takes, I look elsewhere. I am not nervous at all and I tell them very plainly that X won't keep me around.

In return, I make a "verbal" agreement to stay there for at least a year.

yeah but not everyone is a warp drive specialist...

 

[rh71]

i actually am starting to do some freelancing on the side and my calculated rate based on an online calculator i found was significantly higher than i expected it to be, even with calculating in $0 overhead costs into the calculator. if i end up doing a lot of freelancing work on the side, i could see myself sliding into that role for good or starting up my own gig.

I did freelancing for a while but found that I actually have to work harder per hour than my salary and couldn't make more. Not worth it, especially considering I'm sacrificing my free time.

 

[purbeast0]

I did freelancing for a while but found that I actually have to work harder per hour than my salary and couldn't make more. Not worth it, especially considering I'm sacrificing my free time.

yeah i was talking about more just like side projects to make money on the side, nothing full time or anything. i'm going to try and get some kind of free lancing gig once i finish the mobile game i'm working on. haven't had much time to work on it recently though with xmas and stuff going on though.

 

[rh71]

^ that's what I was talking about - I was trying to freelance web projects after hours to make additional cash but found it was not worth the effort for the money brought in. It was really hard to get the motivation to work for less given that I already expended less effort to make more with my day job. Now doing mobile apps like you do would be better since once you're done you can keep collecting on them.

 

[SP33Demon]

Aren't you amazing. How can we be more like you?

There are many places where raises are automatic. Like the military.

 

[purbeast0]

There are many places where raises are automatic. Like the military.

yeah raises here are automatic as well, and have been at every other company i've ever worked at.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Wow. You clearly don't know what it's like to work in the business world What do you do and how much do you make?

Think I have it bad working 50-60? Try the interns and initial hires that come in to do audits and tax returns during busy season. Their sad lives revolves around 80+ hours every single week.

Let me put it to you this way: Anyone working 40 hours in the Big 4 is getting canned... Or any top consulting company. Anyone here can confirm that for you.

While that is true about the Big 4, color me unimpressed. I've worked with their auditors on several occasions on SOX audits in the past and for the most part, they've been clueless. On one occasion, the lead auditor was a former "IT Manager" but he clearly had no clue about IT.

Why do people think it is a badge of honor to work 60+ hours/week for no additional compensation? I used to be like that and fortunately got some perspective and realized it was dumb. If you're getting paid for that extra time, knock yourself out. But to work 20+ hours free every week is absurd. Those companies aren't giving away anything free -- why should you?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Very glad I don't have to grovel for a well deserved raise.

Some do grovel, others (like me) have been a bit more forceful and could back up my demand.

 

[purbeast0]

just had my meeting to discuss my raise and i have to say i'm pretty happy with the raise for sure. $11k raise and they told me it's on the higher end percentage wise for raises they gave this year.

so all of the naysayers out there, have some balls if you want more money and go talk to your bosses about it. don't be scared.

 

[child of wonder]

Congrats!

 

[Ns1]

'grats!

 

[MongGrel]

just had my meeting to discuss my raise and i have to say i'm pretty happy with the raise for sure. $11k raise and they told me it's on the higher end percentage wise for raises they gave this year.

so all of the naysayers out there, have some balls if you want more money and go talk to your bosses about it. don't be scared.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Tweak155]

Grats! I was told my ~11% raise was unheard of after I demanded it. They weren't planning on giving us anything at all because we're contractors, lol. They said "normally you have to wait 2 years for your first raise" blah blah, and I told them it's the raise or they won't keep my interest in the position / project. It got approved the next day, shocker!

 

[LevelSea]

Get money, get paid son!

 

[SeductivePig]

While that is true about the Big 4, color me unimpressed. I've worked with their auditors on several occasions on SOX audits in the past and for the most part, they've been clueless. On one occasion, the lead auditor was a former "IT Manager" but he clearly had no clue about IT.

Why do people think it is a badge of honor to work 60+ hours/week for no additional compensation? I used to be like that and fortunately got some perspective and realized it was dumb. If you're getting paid for that extra time, knock yourself out. But to work 20+ hours free every week is absurd. Those companies aren't giving away anything free -- why should you?

I bought up this argument with a coworker and he said he works extra for the knowledge, because he wants to learn and grow technically. I'm in engineering.

Overtime isn't paid, but the guy did get promoted to project manager this year so it's like.. good job. But in the end, I make around the same as him and never put in more than 40.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Why do people think it is a badge of honor to work 60+ hours/week for no additional compensation? I used to be like that and fortunately got some perspective and realized it was dumb. If you're getting paid for that extra time, knock yourself out. But to work 20+ hours free every week is absurd. Those companies aren't giving away anything free -- why should you?

^ This. I don't mind some of it if it'll pay off long term, or if I need more time to keep my commitments, but if you regularly work extra hours, your effective pay rate goes down and I'm not sure why people would be proud of that.

Also, grats OP! Wish I could get that kind of raise, but I guess I already lucked out during initial hiring negotiations ($10K+ base bump).

 

[purbeast0]

I bought up this argument with a coworker and he said he works extra for the knowledge, because he wants to learn and grow technically. I'm in engineering.

Overtime isn't paid, but the guy did get promoted to project manager this year so it's like.. good job. But in the end, I make around the same as him and never put in more than 40.

i "work" on my own free time on my own side projects to learn a lot. that is how i've learned how to do all my mobile development.

 

[clamum]

Congrats purbeast0!

 

[Carson Dyle]

I don't really understand the "naysayer" part. It seldom hurts to ask for a raise.

The only thing I'd be careful with is jumping rank and speaking with someone above your boss. In a lot of situations (i.e. if your boss is either a prick or is insecure) that might make life difficult for you. In other situations, though, you know your request will be ignored by the boss, so you have to speak with someone else.

Good job. Sounds like you handled it well.