Ask yourself this morning: Would I do this for free?

Grasshopper27

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Ask yourself this morning: Would I do this for free? - by Craig Wilson - USA Today

A story out of Berlin, NH caught my eye the other day. It seems the town librarian, Yvonne Thormas, decided the retire and volunteer rather than cut the public library's book budget by 8%.

So Thornas, who has worked at the library for 28 years, retired one day and returned as a volunteer the next.

She was quoted in The Manchester Union Leader as saying, "If there's no money for books, this becomes a bad museum."

I don't know Yvonne Thomas, but I'd like to buy her a drink. Or a book. Both, if she wants.

Would I volunteer to write this column for free if the publisher said he couldn't pay me any longer because of budget cuts? Well, I do like to eat. And I do have a weakness for nice hotels. But, you know, I would.

Thomas and I are among the blessed who actually like what we do for a living. Enough so that we'd do it for free.

Years ago, I'd go to the office Christmas party, and a colleague's husband would always corner me.

"You know, Craig, I don't have 12 more years before I retire," he'd say. And then it would be 11 years, and then 10. He was counting down the months from a decade out. The annual conversation was a bit of a downer for me, so I began avoiding him, something I feel a little bad about now because he finally retired, then promptly died.

I always wanted to tell him to quit, move to Northern California and grow grapes or marijuana or whatever it was that made him happy. Easier said than done, of course. Live has a way of painting us all into our little corners.

Whenever I'm walking the dog in the morning, watching people head off to work, I wonder if where they're going is here they want to be. Would they be on the way to the subway or the freeway if they weren't getting paid?

Would you work just for the love of what you do? What would you be willing to do for free? Open a bookshop in Boulder? A coffeehouse in Santa Fe?

I'd crew on a sailboat for a year as it made its way around the world. I'd do that in a second. No questions asked. Wouldn't even ask for food money.

And I've always wanted to run a little inn in the Berkshires. A place where I'd meet my guests out on the porch in the summer and chat with them around the fireplace in the winter. I'd do that for free, too, which is probably good since I suspect little inns in the Berkshires are more a labor of love than a moneymaking proposition.

But that's OK. It's called passion, not profit, and it's something sorely lacking in today's society.

I was talking to a recently minted University of Michigan grad the other day. He didn't know what he was going to do, although he thought he'd go to New York and work at a big investment house. How long had he been interested in high finance? I asked.

"I'm not," he replied. "I just want to make tons of money."

I think there's a librarian up in New Hampshire he needs to meet.


I read this story in USA Today several years ago. It hit me enough that I cut it out and saved it. I honestly can say that I'm doing what I love, wouldn't want to do anything else, and I'd do it for free without question.

Find your zen, whatever makes you happy. Life is just too short to do otherwise.

Grasshopper
 

Viper GTS

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There are the lucky few who can have that ideal, but for most of us our job is simply the way we fund what we WOULD do for free: Our life, relationships, hobbies, etc.

My job is just that, a job. If something I love becomes my job, eventually it too will be just a job.

Viper GTS
 

N8Magic

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Originally posted by: grasshopper26
Ask yourself this morning: Would I do this for free? - by Craig Wilson - USA Today
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This story is VERY true.

No matter what anyone says, money cannot buy true happiness. I'd go back to being a ski instructor in .0000000001 of a second if it paid well enough to get me through the year.

 

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
There are the lucky few who can have that ideal, but for most of us our job is simply the way we fund what we WOULD do for free: Our life, relationships, hobbies, etc.

My job is just that, a job. If something I love becomes my job, eventually it too will be just a job.

Viper GTS
Yep. Loving one's job enough to do it for free is a fantastical notion for the majority of us. Let's see: What do I like to do? I like to drink beer. I like to watch movies. I like to play video games. I like to drive. I like to snowboard. I like to travel. Could I turn any of these into a career? And even if I could the pay would be so sh*ty that although I'm "loving my job", the rest of my life is in a financial mess such that it's not worth it. I think that if your job is good enough that you don't get up dreading going to work then you're doing pretty well. That's where I am now and I'm happy with it. Sure I'd rather be doing something else, but I don't hate it and I don't count down the time. I work to live and I don't live to work.
 

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
There are the lucky few who can have that ideal, but for most of us our job is simply the way we fund what we WOULD do for free: Our life, relationships, hobbies, etc.

My job is just that, a job. If something I love becomes my job, eventually it too will be just a job.

Viper GTS

I can relate to that :( You are 100% correct.
 

MattCo

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If everyone did only what they wanted, then who would be our garbage collectors, janitors, and ditch diggers? Some people are fortunate to be in a job that they like but as a rule, it would not work for everone. I like my job but in the end, I like the things my paycheck buys. I think there is a happiness/paycheck ratio that you should work out (ie how much happiness does your job bring you vs. what it affords you).


YMMV

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KC5AV

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I've always heard it said that there are two kinds of jobs... ones you love and ones you are good at. You are really lucky if they are the same.
 

Grasshopper27

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Originally posted by: MattCo
If everyone did only what they wanted, then who would be our garbage collectors, janitors, and ditch diggers? Some people are fortunate to be in a job that they like but as a rule, it would not work for everone. I like my job but in the end, I like the things my paycheck buys. I think there is a happiness/paycheck ratio that you should work out (ie how much happiness does your job bring you vs. what it affords you).

Who does those jobs? People too foolish to know any better. :D

I "work" 30 hours a week, I get to play with very cool toys, no boss looking over my shoulder, and am having the time of my life.

I'd hardly call it "work". :D :p ;)

Sigh...

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Grasshopper27

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Originally posted by: KC5AV
I've always heard it said that there are two kinds of jobs... ones you love and ones you are good at. You are really lucky if they are the same.

[wise voice]In my experience there is no such thing as luck.[/wise voice]

You make your own events, find what you love and make money at it, simple as that. :D

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What a wonderfully inspiring story. Just think how happy everyone would be if they/we all did what we really loved. In a utopian world i guess that would be true. I honestly do not know what else to say except, if i had an oppertunity to paint and work at a theatre the rest of my life...even if i didn't get paid, i would do it no questions asked. Hopefully, i will some day be one of those lucky people who wakes up every morning with a smile on thier face because they love their job. So much in fact, that they would never call it a "job" but more...their "passion".
As I grow up, i realize i don't think i could personally go through life hating my work waiting, counting the days until the weekend, then until i could retire. What is the point of living if you are misserable for the most part of your life?
 

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Not a chance in hell. Well, now that I think about it, I work for free. I just get paid to put up with the bs that I have to endure.
 

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I enjoy my job. I dont thik "Gee, I get to go to work now! Lucky me!" But, I dontt hink "Damn, ANOTHER day in this hell hole".....So, I wouldnt do it for free, thats for sure. But, I like who i work with, I like what I do. If I could ever get paid to do what I really love....Well.....Then I am stealing someone's money......
 

Magius363

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I can't think of anyone I know willing to do their job for free, myself included. However I have a different reason for staying then money. If that makes sense. The people I work with Rock, they are a total blast and the job itself doesn't suck. But really I can make money anywhere so that isn't the reason I stay. How many other people do you know that could say its completely the people that keep them where they are. However Something I would do for free like Craig Williams mentioned it crew a sailboat around the world.
 

Aquaman

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That idea kind of sounds like 'Star Trek' were money is not of consequence & you can do what you like :)

If only we weren't a bunch of ferengi's in need of money to survive :p

Cheers,
Auqaman
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: grasshopper26
Originally posted by: MattCo
If everyone did only what they wanted, then who would be our garbage collectors, janitors, and ditch diggers? Some people are fortunate to be in a job that they like but as a rule, it would not work for everone. I like my job but in the end, I like the things my paycheck buys. I think there is a happiness/paycheck ratio that you should work out (ie how much happiness does your job bring you vs. what it affords you).

Who does those jobs? People too foolish to know any better.
Who is truly the fool, though?
The person who slaves away in an office hating every moment of it simply because they think they are "above" a menial job like being a garbage man, or the person who is a garbage man, loves his job, and is content with his life?
 

MichaelD

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What that article conveniently forgot to mention (probably) is that 12 years ago, her husband died, leaving her sole heir to a $453,451.02 insurance policy. Oh, and about $1.2M in stocks.
rolleye.gif


Only independently wealthy people can be so idealistic. Here's what would happen if I tried that:

Me: Mr. Landlord! WTH are you doing, man?

Him: Throwing your sh1t in the dumpster, d1ckwad...you ain't paid rent in 4 months!!!

Me: But Mr. Landlord, Sir; I don't work for money anymore...I build homes for homeless families and clean up at the local ASPCA on the weekends!

Him: And that's my problem, how, @sswad?


See? Only rich people can do what they love. The rest of us have to WORK. Some of us has to work TWO jobs. :p
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
What that article conveniently forgot to mention (probably) is that 12 years ago, her husband died, leaving her sole heir to a $453,451.02 insurance policy. Oh, and about $1.2M in stocks.
rolleye.gif


Only independently wealthy people can be so idealistic. Here's what would happen if I tried that:

Me: Mr. Landlord! WTH are you doing, man?

Him: Throwing your sh1t in the dumpster, d1ckwad...you ain't paid rent in 4 months!!!

Me: But Mr. Landlord, Sir; I don't work for money anymore...I build homes for homeless families and clean up at the local ASPCA on the weekends!

Him: And that's my problem, how, @sswad?


See? Only rich people can do what they love. The rest of us have to WORK. Some of us has to work TWO jobs. :p

It's a rhetorical question. The point is that if you wouldn't do your job free, then you should consider looking for a different job. You don't have to be rich to do what you love, but you do have to be resourceful and dedicated, and not waste your time whining about what the haves have and what you have not.
Measure your success in what you want, not what others seem to have.

 
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Originally written by: Craig Wilson
Ask yourself this morning: Would I do this for free?

Let's see ... I just finished the first of many BIOS flash/firmware upgrades on a couple dozen Netfinity 6000Rs, rebuilt four NT4 Server installs from scratch, and attempted to explain to the hardware "gurus" why running a critical server on a 4-way RAID 0 stripe is a bad idea.

No fscking way.

- M4H
 

Zenmervolt

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No matter what anyone says, money cannot buy true happiness.
True, money can't buy happiness. But money can rent it for an hour. ;)

Seriously though, the things I love are loved precisely because they aren't a job and therefore have no deadlines. I love working on my car or doing handyman-type jobs for my parents/grandparents but if I did either for a job, I'd get tired of it.

ZV
 

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Ask yourself this morning: Would I do this for free?

I earn so little money that you can say I do it for free. But I like my job and don't want any other.

No matter what anyone says, money cannot buy true happiness.

Wise men say: 'Happiness is not in money, but in the amount of it'.
 

jjones

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I work for myself and love what I do but I wouldn't do it for free; I have a family to feed and loving my business doesn't put food in their stomachs, seeing to it that my business generates an income does.
 

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Originally posted by: MattCo
If everyone did only what they wanted, then who would be our garbage collectors, janitors, and ditch diggers? Some people are fortunate to be in a job that they like but as a rule, it would not work for everone. I like my job but in the end, I like the things my paycheck buys. I think there is a happiness/paycheck ratio that you should work out (ie how much happiness does your job bring you vs. what it affords you).
No, of course it won't work for everyone.

But it will work for everyone who makes it work for themselves.

If you don't have a plan for yourself, that's okay: someone else does. That person plans for you to be a garbage collector, a janitor, or a ditch digger.

Those who MAKE things happen for themselves are the ones who have the jobs they love. The rest of the folk get the leftovers, simply because they failed to demand more out of life.

I bargained with Life for a penny,
And Life would pay no more
However I begged at evening
When I counted my scanty store.

For Life is a just employer
He gives you what you ask,
But once you have a set the wages,
Why, you must bear the task.

I worked for a menial's hire
Only to learn, dismayed,
That any wage I had asked of Life,
Life would have willingly paid.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: jjones
I work for myself and love what I do but I wouldn't do it for free; I have a family to feed and loving my business doesn't put food in their stomachs, seeing to it that my business generates an income does.

Again: It's a rhetorical question.
 

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
There are the lucky few who can have that ideal, but for most of us our job is simply the way we fund what we WOULD do for free: Our life, relationships, hobbies, etc. My job is just that, a job. If something I love becomes my job, eventually it too will be just a job. Viper GTS

Work is doing time.
We buy back our lives, minute by minute, hour by hour, paycheck by paycheck.