Ashcroft as Attorney General??!?!?

lowfatbaconboy

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Are all you George Bush fans happy? The stock market sure did rise when he was announced winner...

Now he appoints Ashcroft as Attorney General??!?!?

Ashcroft was one of the loudest - if not THE LOUDEST voice for impeachment of Clinton. But wait you say - thats okay - he was speaking for his constitiuents? Yeah - they loved the guy so fscking much he lost to a dead man. Yes - our next attorney general is so disliked - that as an incumbent - he lost to a dead guy. In the heart of the Republican South - this guy lost to a dead democrat! WTF? Besides being pals with Pat Roberts and a leader of the Christian Coalition - this sh!t for brains has also publicly spoken out against the terrible evils of dancing!

This is the same crap as Reagan. They act so fscking stupid publicly that you laugh them off - but they fsck us over behind their boss hogg antics.

Chet


if u people really wanna argue over politics in a forum that is not made up of just conservatives and gun nuts that call everything propaganda go to Old Man Murray Forums

ill be there debating with people who will friggin listen instead of being so close minded even facts can't get through
 

Tominator

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The italics you gave is great evidence that Liberals have no brain.:Q

Liberals do not have a reasonable agenda, so they make thing up....typical.:D

Ashcroft will be a great Attorney General.


BTW, lowfatbaconboy, that's a poor excuse for a Forum.

100% of self proclaimed 'Conservatives and Gun Nuts' vote! I'm both!:cool:
 

lowfatbaconboy

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yes but i don't have to like his cabinet

urm lets see your logic is that b/c ashcroft lost to a DEAD MAN in a highly republican area...and he was the incumbent(and republican) means he will be a good attorney gen.
 

Tominator

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Ashcroft chose not to challenge the election of the DEAD MAN's wife.....it was obviously unconstitutional, btw. Carnahan was very popular and a very good man regardless of his party affiliation. Unlike Gore, Ashcroft gracefully bowed out..

As normal, Liberals want to dismiss details and facts as they always seem to get in the way of their agenda. Nothing new...
 

Tripleshot

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I don't think Ashcroft was a wise choice at all. He brings too much baggage with him. He is ultra conservative even to his religeon. It is not within him to comprimise. He is too far to the right and will be hammered by the congress. I think he is a liabilty to any of the so called "uniter-not a devider" mantra of GW.

It is evedent GW does not have a clue who to pick for his cabinet. He picks people from a bygone era to make policy.He is obviously calling up his daddy for advice,and daddy can only give him names of people from his time period.This is a different world than that time period.

Wondering about the market place and its sudden downturn? Same thing happened when Reagon was elected. Something about electing republicans just seems to scare the begeezes out of investors. Must have something to do with the economic policy making of the right that scares them and makes them hoard thier money. I wonder if gold futures are on the rise?

Of course,I'm sure the right wing will say its all Clintons fault. They never where very good for taking reponsibilty for thier own folly. Its always someone elses fault.
 

Tripleshot

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As normal, Liberals want to dismiss details and facts as they always seem to get in the way of their agenda. Nothing new...

What is "as normal" about that? Republicans do the same thing!

Here's a news flash. Ashcroft,on the night he lost the election to the wife of the deseased Carnahan, ranted and carried on with threats to sue the state of Missouri for an illegal election and raised all kinds of hateful crap. He apologised the next morning(obviously after republican opperatives told him to tone it down) and then gave his concession speech you refer to.

I watched that with my own eyes. Now I see why he clammed up. They greased him with this appointment. Payback, huh?

We'll see if he's qualified or not when he goes before congress for acceptance. He may or may not be accepted. It will sure make for a testing of the waters of co-operation between the dems and reps. ;)
 

lowfatbaconboy

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red dawn: whined? urm it was a thread on who annoyed you....those 3 guys on this forum annoy the fsck outa me because they don't respond with facts or data or anything remotely substantial....most the time they say thats propaganda or its a half-truth and mutter off.

im honestly hoping what they do with bush is like what they did with regan in his last couple years when he was going off his nut...

why did gore not gracefully bow out? hmmm lets think about it b/c he won the popular vote and should have won florida
 

Yo Ma Ma

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Let's face it, the dead guy had a lot going for him. He was popular even before he was dead, he wasn't able to say anything stupid or look bad in a debate, and he didn't have to make any promises he couldn't keep later on. Mabye this will start a whole new trend in popular politicking :D
 

PCAddict

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lowfatbaconboy,

Did you ever notice that you are the only person whose postings consistently merit those responses? Think about it real hard and maybe you'll get a clue and figure out why. If you want responses with more substance, you need to do something more than post things which constantly lack substance.
 

BoberFett

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Thanks for posting the link back to the Hated Person thread Red! I didn't realize I had made it onto BaconButts list. If one of the sorriest losers around hates me, I must be doing something right.
 

Tominator

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Tripleshot

Ashcroft was protesting the illegal action of keeping the polls open in Missouri in only Democrat districts after they were scheduled to close. There is hard evidence the local Democrats planned this action BEFORE the election. Someone should have gone to jail over this, but Ashcroft bowed out and refused to add more confusion in the election.

Ashcroft will uphold the LAW unlike Reno who has spent 8 years watching Clinton's butt. He does not make policy, so I wonder why the Liberals are so scared?...But I know the answer...:cool:
 

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Isn't it interesting that the media, et.al. keeps focusing on Bush's appointment of Ashcroft and whining about it being "divisive" and proving that he's not really a "uniter."

Granted, the AG post is important but how about some of his other choices, like Whitman for EPA. Good grief, she's not just representative of the left wing of the Republican Party, she's more liberal than a lot of Democrats. The only ones opposing her are the really left wing, tree-hugging fringe who won't be happy until the combustible engine is outlawed.

And Rumsfeld at Defense. Don't let anyone tell you that because he comes out of the Ford Administration he's a conservative. You can't find many Republicans more moderate than Gerald Ford.

Taken in total, Bush's cabinet nominees represent an extremely experienced, polished, balanced group. He's drawn from all wings and levels of the Republican Party as well as the private sector and the military.
 

Ornery

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This guy is in for a "Borking". And speaking of Bork, I've heard that his failed nomination represented the beginning of the current partisanship problem. Guess we'll see during the hearings who is really interested in compromise. Uh, I do believe his credentials are a tad more substantial than the "different world" of Janet Reno!
 

Static911

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Bush won...he does wat he wants 9just as Clinton and all the president's have done in the past)
Who cares who he chooses...i mean, reno wasn't the greatest choice by Clinton...

Static911
 

Ornery

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Sen. John Ashcroft - A Conservative Activist
  • Born in Chicago in 1942, Ashcroft grew up in Springfield, Mo., where he graduated from Hillcrest High School. He earned an honors degree from Yale University in 1964, and a law degree in 1967 from the University of Chicago School of Law. A practicing attorney, Ashcroft was a professor at Southwest Missouri State University, 1968-73, assistant attorney general of Missouri, 1975-76 and attorney general 1976-84. He served as Missouri governor 1984-92. Elected to the Senate in 1994, Ashcroft faces re-election this year.
 

Ornery

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Pssssst, he's gonna get "Borked" bad! This will kick off the whole new administration on a sour note. Too bad the guy won't really be able to do anything to distinguish himself from his rep. But, come to think of it, what can anyone in this aministration do to make the left happy? Even Powell an Rice don't seem to suit them. WTF?
 
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I would say he is amply qualified, albeit staunchly Republican, which I guess is fine. His failure to beat Mel Carnahan is amusing, however, and to my knowledge unprecedented in the history of the United States. Per this article, he did not protest the result of the election at all, and indeed behaved about as well as one could ask given that he had just been defeated by a three-week-old corpse.

I really take issue with the way people are using this thread to crap on Janet Reno. IMO she did a good job, and consistently showed tremendous integrity in the face of a sequence of very challenging decisions. I think the reason people have such distaste for her is the same reason people are picking on Ashcroft: partisanism, plain and simple.
 

MrPALCO

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Ashcroft is a Man of Integrity and Honor.

He will do the job as outlined in the Law of the United States.

He is bound to Jesus, the Anointed One.

:)
 

lowfatbaconboy

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lets see so do you guys agree with bush's plan to "have better relations with the greecians"

fsking greecians???
what does this prove? that all of bush's "great" education means nothing

 

MrPALCO

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<< fsking greecians???
what does this prove? that all of bush's &quot;great&quot; education means nothing
>>



We had an &quot;educated&quot; President....the Oxford degree should be downgraded to the status of a &quot;mail in&quot;....;)

:)



 

chess9

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Tee:

I agree with your assessment of Reno. I think she was a wonderful AG, with the exception of the Waco hiccup at the beginning of her term when she relied inordinately upon the FBI's recommendations. Since then, I'd say she's done a sterling job. She hasn't given in to the right wing extremists in the Republican Party, nor did she give anyone in the Clinton administration a free ticket out of jail. I thought she struck the right balance.

Ashcroft is a smart man, but he was born a century late. Must have been a painful pregnancy for his mother....:)