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Asbestos removal

IHateMyJob2004

IHateMyJob2004

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I'm reading up on removal of asbestos. I'm not even sure if I have it. If care is taken thoguh, and the are in good condition, it sounds like A DIY project.

http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/asbestos/floortile/residental.htm
http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/asbestos/floortile/index.htm

But, I can't find anything about what to wear while doing such a removal. Saftefy glasses and more importatly, what kind of dust mask is required? I know these are fine particles I might be dealing with, but I can't find anything that says use a "ABC" rated dust mask or something like that.
 
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Wet it down so you don't generate much dust.
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Read up on that. Better yet, use a sopay water. Foudn that in hte links above as that will allow fior hte materials to be better penetrated.
 
Make sure it's good and dry, then smash it up and use a vacuum in reverse to blow the dust up and out the open window.















Or not. Get professional advice if not help.
 
You need to wear disposable cover-alls, gloves, respirator, and goggles. Tape the sleeves and pant legs shut. I used a dual-filter fine partical respirator when I removed the asbestos ceiling in my basement. Don't cheap out on the respirator. Tape air vents shut. Bag everything and throw your protective gear out when done.
 
Originally posted by: cbrsurfr
You need to wear disposable cover-alls, gloves, respirator, and goggles. Tape the sleeves and pant legs shut. I used a dual-filter fine partical respirator when I removed the asbestos ceiling in my basement. Don't cheap out on the respirator. Tape air vents shut. Bag everything and throw your protective gear out when done.
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Oh boy, ya ... that's what I'm reading.

How much did it cost for all the raw materials?

I have to do some tile floors and mastic that are about 40 years old. I havn't tested them yet, but suspect them to have asbestos. The more I read though, the more it sounds like a snap as long as the materials are not in a crumbling state. That is, can not be easily crushed by hand, that removal is easy ... jsut keep the materials wet while doing so..
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The better question is, how much will it run you to have it done professionally.
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HAhahahaahahah ... NEVER!!!!!


It actually doesn't seem like a hard thing to do. I'd expect professional removal to be a bit costly though. It might be worth it though.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The better question is, how much will it run you to have it done professionally.
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A lot. The pros will cover the walls with plastic, totaly seal the room, build a plastic airlock and set up a large fan with HEPA filter vented to the outside. Then they will demo out the floors, load everything into barrels, seal them, and take them to a hasmat dump. They will also have a testing lab come in and take air samples before they remove the plastic.
They have huge insurance costs, and workmans comp gets a big piece as well.
 
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The better question is, how much will it run you to have it done professionally.
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A lot. The pros will cover the walls with plastic, totaly seal the room, build a plastic airlock and set up a large fan with HEPA filter vented to the outside. Then they will demo out the floors, load everything into barrels, seal them, and take them to a hasmat dump. They will also have a testing lab come in and take air samples before they revove the plastic.
You should also have several large buckets around to put there money in when you get the bill.
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I'm suspecting it would be something along those lines .... I think it's easily $5K+ And $10K wouldn't shock me.
 
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The better question is, how much will it run you to have it done professionally.
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A lot. The pros will cover the walls with plastic, totaly seal the room, build a plastic airlock and set up a large fan with HEPA filter vented to the outside. Then they will demo out the floors, load everything into barrels, seal them, and take them to a hasmat dump. They will also have a testing lab come in and take air samples before they revove the plastic.
They have huge insurance costs, and workmans comp gets a big piece as well.
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We had abestos abatement done at work and it was a HUGE project. They did just about everything that you described and trust me, it didn't look cheap. That's the price you have to pay for the removal of hazardous materials and it may very well be worth the money, rather than trying to do it yourself and breathing it in the process.
 
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The better question is, how much will it run you to have it done professionally.
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A lot. The pros will cover the walls with plastic, totaly seal the room, build a plastic airlock and set up a large fan with HEPA filter vented to the outside. Then they will demo out the floors, load everything into barrels, seal them, and take them to a hasmat dump. They will also have a testing lab come in and take air samples before they revove the plastic.
They have huge insurance costs, and workmans comp gets a big piece as well.
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Well, I just need my kitchen done (300 sq ft or so) and the quote was around $2500. If they do all that, I'd consider it money well spent.

Seriously, I'm building and installing my own kitchen cabinets and doing the tile, so I'm not a DIY hater, but, man, if you screw up just one detail you could end up creating a health hazard in your home.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The better question is, how much will it run you to have it done professionally.
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A lot. The pros will cover the walls with plastic, totaly seal the room, build a plastic airlock and set up a large fan with HEPA filter vented to the outside. Then they will demo out the floors, load everything into barrels, seal them, and take them to a hasmat dump. They will also have a testing lab come in and take air samples before they revove the plastic.
They have huge insurance costs, and workmans comp gets a big piece as well.
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Well, I just need my kitchen done (300 sq ft or so) and the quote was around $2500. If they do all that, I'd consider it money well spent.

Seriously, I'm building and installing my own kitchen cabinets and doing the tile, so I'm not a DIY hater, but, man, if you screw up just one detail you could end up creating a health hazard in your home.
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$2500 isn't so bad. I'm looking at a 250 sqft job .... so maybe the cost isn't so much. Was your job for hte floors in the kitchen? That's the only place I suspect there might be asbestos.

I'm not to worried about screwing up. From what I've read, it largely depends on the condition of hte material being removed. If it doesn't crumble easily, it's not much risk at all as long as you take the time to do it right.

I'll get the tile tested and if it's asbestos, I'll get an estimate.
 
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004


I have to do some tile floors and mastic that are about 40 years old. I havn't tested them yet, but suspect them to have asbestos. The more I read though, the more it sounds like a snap as long as the materials are not in a crumbling state. That is, can not be easily crushed by hand, that removal is easy ... jsut keep the materials wet while doing so..
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Why? You usually can go right over this with a new floor.



 
If you're removing asbestos floor tile, you may not need to have a qualified asbestos removal contractor do the job, but you WI:LL have to take the proper steps for disposal. The big concern with asbestos is if it's in a "friable" condition, meaning it's crumbly and could become airborne...Do your research, pay attention to the laws, because you COULD get yourself in serious trouble trying to DIY this, if you do it wrong...
 
Whay do you want to remove it? Just leave the floor in place unless it is in really bad condition. What is it installed on top of?
 
ATOT 2050... My old floor is made of nanotubes I think, what is the best way to get rid of it?? I know the pros=$$$.
 
Floor tile is considered non friable and does not require abatement by professionals. This is based on my experience in my state, and if I am not mistaken, this falls under federal guidelines which would mean the same for all states.

Most asbestos based tile is 9X9 so usually easy to identify.

Proper disposal is to double bag it and identify it as abestos at the landfill. You may want to call your local landfill and ask them if they take it, they will tell you the requirements.

If it has black cutback adhesive I would just cover it withunderlayment. They do make a soy bean based oil that will break it down and allow it to be absorbed into saw dust. I would not attempt this in a house though, too messy.

My recommendation, leave it all there and cover it up, too many problems and expense.
 
You know whats sad and interesting is many people do home repairs and upgrades without ever checking for asbestos.
 
OP, if you could put up a picture of the material you want to remove and whats under it I could prolly give you some advice. I'm a building contractor.
 
I think the hazards are a bit over-rated... As said above... keep it dampened to avoid dust. Put it in sealed plastic bags. Double bag it. Put bags in garbage can. Then, these guys with a big truck stop in front of your house, dump the bags into their truck, then drive to your neighbors and repeat the process with their bags. Done.
 
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