The 2nd Amendment is such a farce to begin with. It was about slave patrols and a regulated militia. It wasn't an individual right. They even had laws banning some weapons e.g. head ax. Even Scalia admitted that it wasn't absolute, so the Amendment was incredibly weak. Heck, that was the interpretation until well into the 2000s, which the change was made possible because the NRA in the 1970s pushed that phony narrative. Moreover, the guns back then were way less effective to be used for murdering people. A musket back then had black powder and took a long time to get a second shot.
Mind you, hunting is still supported by the majority, so rifles and shotguns would not be banned for the foreseeable future. It's all the low utility stuff that would be targeted e.g. handguns, magazines. People complain that only the criminals would have guns, but a nationwide ban is different than a state ban. We already see that with UK, Australia, etc.
EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!: Also, the 2nd Amendment was just a ban on the federal government. The states back then could have done whatever they wanted. That wasn't changed until incorporation via the 14th Amendment. A lot of gun nuts don't realize that, and part of the irony is that they hate the 14th Amendment.
LOL at you trying to cite "logic" for what are extremely emotional issues like guns and abortion.
The abortion debate IS about logic. Nobody is in existence during that period. As far as logic goes, that's like squashing a gnat. There are severe consequences if women can't get abortions, however. She can kill herself over it, have complications delivering it, not have the means to support it and tie her down from getting an education. She could be forced to bring to term a baby who has known issues or bring to term a baby from incest/rape or birth control sabotage. Etc.
Only an idiot wouldn't support allowing abortions.
Pass all the laws you want on either issue and there will be half the population widely ignoring them and breaking the laws everyday and willing to go to jail or fight the government to protect their right.
Funny, a lot of 2nd Amendment nuts think like that, BUT somehow the law works for things like marijuana or anything else they support banning.
We aren't going to chain women to hospital beds to force them to bear children and we aren't going door to door confiscating weapons.
Even though abortion is the law of the land, they have several tactics that they use to hinder women from exercising their right. If it's good for the women, it should be good for them, too!
Gun enthusiasts aren't much better but at least cite some statistics and reasoning to support their case even if it's often done poorly.
Haha. The idiots claim they can kill as much with a knife or single shot rifle in a hypothetical comparison of what could be done with a semi-auto and a detachable magazine. They won't even admit that detachable magazines and semi-auto functionality enable people to kill more. The irony to that is many of them favor a full-auto ban! Yet in most situations, semi-auto is better, and it's still possible to simulate full-auto fire anyway via bump firing. Another gem is that gun restrictions don't work. It's an asinine argument because it's just some half-*** local, state, or national law that they are referring to, and they don't even realize the blatant hypocrisy of advocating for their own bans.
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