as promised, pics of my healing wound....

[darkswordsman17]

Then how did I identify it as a Brown Recluse bite the moment I saw it? One of the first things I searched for when Google introduced "Google Image Search" was "Brown Recluse Bite." Try it.

Because there's tons of cases that are misdiagnosed as Recluse bites that look exactly like that and lots of other morons claim the same thing (there's several pics that go around every few years that are claimed to be a Recluse/Hobo Spider/other spider bite that are in fact infections that idiots like the OP left untreated until their skin was literally sloughing off). Seriously, read up on this, its very uncommon for people to end up like that from Recluses. Most of the time its a separate infection because the person didn't address the bite (or picked at it or its scab).

Hell the OP even admits this in his usual morose way. It was the the infection that did that, not the bite.

Considering his past history, I'm as likely to believe the OP went on a meth binge was picking at his skin and probably got it infected.

 

[KK]

That's what I said, dipshit. The bite was only the point of entry for the bacteria, the wound is caused entirely by that and has nothing to do with the venom of the spider. Sue the hospital if that is really your leg.

Sue the hospital? I'm sure he had this bacteria before he went to the hospital. Who would go to the hospital for a small bite unless it started showing signs of the skin dying.

 

[Lemon law]

Methinks that our OP is unusually sensitive to Brown recluse Venom. And for that matter, deer ticks bites can really do damage to only a small subset of the population.

But still no joking matter when it happens to you. Lordie that bite looks nasty.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Living in Canada is poisonous enough eh?

You're just jealous of our fresh air. :awe: And Poutine. :wub:

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Treatment for necrotizing fasciitis is surgery, as well as antibiotics depending on the specific organism(s) present based off culture. Surgical debridement is the only recognized way to stop the infection and necrosis from spreading, and one surgical debridement is required roughly every 24 hours as well as antibiotics until a day after there is no further visible tissue requiring debridement and no fever.

Also:

1) Most 'spider' bites are actually attributable to other invertebrates, as well as bacteria (particularly MRSA). Brown recluses are called that for a reason; while spider bites do happen, most of the stereotypical injuries that people attribute to spiders are not from spiders.

2) Necrotizing fasciitis is not a single bacterium, it is a syndrome of tissue death and wasting due to the presence of one or many of a range of bacteria, which include Streptococcus pyogenes, Staphylococcus aureus, as well as various Gram-negative bacilli.

It's because you have been MISLEAD as to what the properties of a Brown Recluse bite are. I thought they still taught correlation/causation in school?

I wouldn't be so optimistic if I were you.

so it says that it is found often in 70% who have immunosuppression, diabetes, alcoholism/drug abuse, malignancies, and chronic systemic diseases. You got diabetes?

Also, how do you know it was a spider that bite you?

30% of people with necrotizing fasciitis is still a lot of people.

 

[Krazy4Real]

Considering his past history, I'm as likely to believe the OP went on a meth binge was picking at his skin and probably got it infected.

This.

 

[darkswordsman17]

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2061.html

It is difficult for a physician to accurately diagnose a "brown recluse bite" based simply on wound characteristics. It is absolutely necessary to have the spider for a positive identification. Necrotic wounds can result from a variety of agents such as bacteria (Staphylococcus, "flesh-eating" Streptococcus, etc.), viruses, fungi, and arthropods (non-recluse spiders, centipedes, mites, ticks, wasps, bedbugs, kissing bugs, biting flies, etc.). Necrotic conditions also can be caused by vascular and lymphatic disorders, drug reactions, underlying diseases states, and a variety of other agents. An annotated list of conditions that could be mistaken for a brown recluse spider bite is available at http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2002/08/05/hlsa0805.htm. Misdiagnosis of lesions as brown recluse bites can delay appropriate care.

For people in the Western US, there's a spider that's similar to the Recluse. You probably heard about it after the media fervor over it a few years back. Its referred to as the Hobo Spider.

It and the Brown Recluse are highly mis-identified. I believe the best way to identify the Recluses are by the eye pattern as they won't always have a clear "fiddle" or coloring.

Well we have black widows but they aren't that dangerous.

I'd actually consider Widows more dangerous than recluses. Both are feared far more than they should be. I'd kill either one or if I suspected a spider was one, but I'd also try and check to confirm it afterwards. I'd also check around the house (and outside) to see if there were any more and if there are I'd call a professional exterminator to check it out and take care of it.

 

[zanejohnson]

no it was not the result of a meth binge lol and it was not left unnattendid....here's a pic if the beginning of it

 

[pontifex]

as much shit as you have supposedly pumped into your body, i find it amazing that you react to any toxins, etc.

 

[Locut0s]

as much shit as you have supposedly pumped into your body, i find it amazing that you react to any toxins, etc.

How do you know it's not because of this?

 

[qliveur]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_recluse_spider#Bite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_recluse_spider#Validity_of_necrosis_claims

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrotizing_fasciitis

Yup, I was about to post this.

Two completely different things, but with similar symptoms.

 

[Kobota]

come on doesn't any one remember my thread with my fasciotomy pics.
needless to say nsfl
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1534656

 

[irishScott]

come on doesn't any one remember my thread with my fasciotomy pics.
needless to say nsfl
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1534656

Damn... before my time. Out of curiosity, what was it like post-scarring? I imagine you'd have a very stiff rope of tissue there for years. Not that that area bends much, but still.

 

[Joseph F]

I've had wounds like that from crashing my bike and scraping my arm on the pavement.

 

[pontifex]

How do you know it's not because of this?

because he's "clean" now.

 

[JPS35]

recluse bite, that got into bloodstream, hell ensued.... had to get skin grafts to cover the amount of skin it necrotized

Is it from a spider bite or the staph infection you talked about in December?

 

[halik]

What state are you in? Those things scare the shit out of me.

 

[eLiu]

Do you have any pics from before the grafting? I bet that's where the real tasty shots are...

Also fuck brown recluses, jesus.

 

[superccs]

I hope you face pounded the spider that did that to you. I thought it was a motorcycle accident at first. You should totally get a wicked tattoo there after it heals, like a spider flipping you the bird.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

I hope you don't become addicted to drugs or anything from this.

 

[Kobota]

Damn... before my time. Out of curiosity, what was it like post-scarring? I imagine you'd have a very stiff rope of tissue there for years. Not that that area bends much, but still.

yeah, it is still stiff scar tissue, but much lighter now 7 years later. if anyone wants i will take a new pic. But to dispel all the talk in the original thread, apparently chicks don't dig scars as much as we all hoped, im still not swimming in pussy

 

[edro]

I don't get it.

You were bitten and there just happened to be necrotizing fascitis sitting near the wound?
Or do recluses carry the necrotizing fascitis?
Or were you bitten, then you accidentally rubbed necrotizing fascitis into the wound?

Also:

Necrotizing Fascitis
Signs and symptoms

Over 70% of cases are recorded in patients with one of the following clinical situations: immunosuppression, diabetes, alcoholism/drug abuse, malignancies, and chronic systemic diseases. It occasionally occurs in people with an apparently normal general condition.[5]

 

[alien42]

It has already been looked up and linked in this thread. Read it.



You should do a little more research.

A. It never made any sense that news of this type of reaction wouldn't have been more widespread prior to teh golden age of in7erw3bz sensationalism.

B. Pics produced always looked exactly like bacterial infections.

C. If this was truly a possibility from the bites alone, then one would expect MORE reports of these reactions.

D. I have been bitten by this spider which resulted in a dime sized bruised lump and a stiff ankle for a couple of days. No big deal. I have worse wasp stings.

E. I will remind you that this is a Zane Johnson thread.

A link in the thread to the wikipedia article suggests the same speculation among scientists.

A. I was aware of what a brown recluse could do long before the internet

B. so?

C. brown recluses are not aggressive and a low percentage of bites end in necrosis

D. my mother was recently bit by a brown recluse and did not experience necrosis

as i stated before, it does happen, even if the odds are not that high.

 

[zoiks]

Did you capture the spider and take it with you to the hospital?

 

[SphinxnihpS]

A. I was aware of what a brown recluse could do long before the internet

B. so?

C. brown recluses are not aggressive and a low percentage of bites end in necrosis

D. my mother was recently bit by a brown recluse and did not experience necrosis

as i stated before, it does happen, even if the odds are not that high.

My assertion is that it is likely that necrosis beyond a very small surface area of skin is 100% of a bacterial nature.