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As a 1080Ti owner, do you feel like a midrange Plebeian with Titan V out? I do. (poll inside)

Did Nvidia release Titan V to make us hangry for next gen performance?

  • Yes, of course they did.

    Votes: 19 51.4%
  • No, Nvidia had NO idea that releasing Titan V would affect 1080Ti owners in such a way.

    Votes: 18 48.6%

  • Total voters
    37

moonbogg

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I ask all you fellow 1080Ti owners, do you feel like the commoner of ancient Rome who's pride in those new leather sandals has been dashed by the newly stamped footwear of that white robed patrician bastard who just walked by? That's how Nvidia made me feel as they reminded me, amongst other things, that if I wanted a hot bath, I would have to share the water with all of you.

Did Nvidia dull the shine of that 1080Ti for you by releasing something into the wild that's so much faster? If so, did they do it on purpose to make you hangry for the next gen already? I think they did it to make us hangry.

People say, "Oh its not for gaming, but I mean you caaaaan game with it if you really wanted to and get like 2x the performance that you have now. Can't pay $3k though? Oh sorry Pleb"
 

happy medium

Lifer
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I think the 1080ti has been out long enough, its time for something faster. Bring on the gtx2080 ,20% faster for $600.
Titan V is a pro card.
 
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urvile

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I am still not going under 85 frames with everything maxed out on the latest AAA releases @ 3440x1440. So no not really.
 

IEC

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I could use more performance at 4K. But I'm not willing to pay $3000 for a single card even if I can afford it as I'm not exactly wanting for performance with a 1080 Ti.
 
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CraptacularOne

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It’s not like we had the fastest card currently available for gaming anyway. If that were so we’d all have Titan Xp as it’s faster than a 1080Ti in all games.

Also a Titan V isn’t twice as fast as a 1080Ti. Sure it is faster but not double, actually it’s not even close to double.

Lastly, regardless of any of that, did you really expect any video card to the “best” forever? The Ti is about a year old already it’s only a matter of time before something cheaper and faster comes along.
 
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moonbogg

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It’s not like we had the fastest card currently available for gaming anyway. If that were so we’d all have Titan Xp as it’s faster than a 1080Ti in all games.

Also a Titan V isn’t twice as fast as a 1080Ti. Sure it is faster but not double, actually it’s not even close to double.

Lastly, regardless of any of that, did you really expect any video card to the “best” forever? The Ti is about a year old already it’s only a matter of time before something cheaper and faster comes along.
And my heart's been broken every time since Geforce 3 Ti200. I had a Geforce 256 but got it from trading, not buying. So no broken heart there. Skipped Geforce 2. Know what I mean?
 

Head1985

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I dont expecting anything much better than 1080TI untill next TI card.GTX2080/2070 will be like usually milking overpriced mid-range with not much more performance once all cards overclocked.
 

MrTeal

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I'm still fine with my 1080Ti purchase, and the only thing I've really played on it in the last 6 months has been a play through of Starcraft, and getting halfway through the Terran campaign on Brood War. No issues with performance there though.
 

DeadlyTitan

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Am pretty happy with my purchase and wont be bothered by what comes next as long as i can play my games at the details i want and getting acceptable frames.

Titan V is a $3000 card and is no way affordable for an average consumer. When i purchased my card i already accepted the facts that its not going to be the best card forever and soon in 2018 there are going to be cards that are faster than 1080 Ti but are cheaper and I purchased the card on Christmas 2017, cause i knew its not worth waiting 6 months just to purchase a card that performs on par with GTX 1080 Ti but costs a lot less money or is 20% faster than it.

I usually buy cards every other gen, so i am not really bothered by what is coming in the future. The next upgrade would be when we have 3xxx cards or 4xxx cards depending on factors like Is my current card able to satisfy my gaming needs or not.
 

tviceman

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I think the 1080ti has been out long enough, its time for something faster. Bring on the gtx2080 ,20% faster for $600.
Titan V is a pro card.
I think you're pretty close. I bet it'll be 25% faster and $650. Then GTX 1070 will be ~5% faster than the 1080 TI and will have a $449 MSRP. I'm also guessing a late May release.
 

IronWing

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Shouldn't 2080 be 1180? Not just the price ;) but to be consistent and not run out of numbers.
 

Qwertilot

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Should be safe whatever they do I'd think :) Not that many silicon shrinks left now.....
 

moonbogg

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I think you're pretty close. I bet it'll be 25% faster and $650. Then GTX 1070 will be ~5% faster than the 1080 TI and will have a $449 MSRP. I'm also guessing a late May release.
I have my doubts about $650. I honestly think more like $800 for the new mid range 1080 replacement and probably the same price or even more for 1080ti replacement a year after that.
I wouldn't be surprised if 1070 buyers were forced down to 1060 class performance at around the $450 price point. With nothing good coming out of AMD the prices will skyrocket and we will all get much less for our money, guaranteed.

Instead of pricing gamers out of the market completely, they will just force us all down a performance bracket and charge the same for it. So if you can afford a 1080ti today, you can maybe afford a 1080 class card later, but not the Ti. If you can afford a 1080 today, you can afford 1070 class card next time etc etc.
 
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happy medium

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I just looked at Vega 56 and 64 prices....$640 and 740$.. I'd pay 700$ for Ampere gtx 2080 and the extra 40% performance easily.
The gtx 1080 launched at 650$.
 
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Head1985

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GTX1080 launched at 700usd
150usd more than GTX980 and 200usd more than gtx680.
Unicorn prices(non FE) didnt exist more than 6months after release.

Edit:we can expect GTX2080 750-900usd for +20% faster than 1080TI with zero availability because miners.

Mid-range SKUs from last few years:
GTX560TI-250usd
GTX680-500USD
GTX980-550USD
GTX1080-700USD
GTX2080-750+???
 
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lavaheadache

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Not a 1080ti owner but I can’t help but be turned off entirely by the direction the whole graphics card industry has gone over the last few years.

Ever since the GTX 680 was released I’ve felt like this hobby turned into a scam. I stayed enthused for a couple more generations but have completely halted spending money on new video cards over the past....... almost 3 years now I think. Pretty impressive considering there aren’t many that are bigger video card junkies than I was.

I miss the neck and neck ATi and nvidia battles that happend every 6-9 months for $600 or less for the best that truly was next gen features and performance.

Complain all you want about your 1080ti not being “the best” anymore but to me it was always a second tier card. Give me full chips up front and at a decent price point and I’ll give a crap again.

Till then I’m going to ride it out with my measly Titan Z... lol.
 

tviceman

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I have my doubts about $650. I honestly think more like $800 for the new mid range 1080 replacement and probably the same price or even more for 1080ti replacement a year after that.
I wouldn't be surprised if 1070 buyers were forced down to 1060 class performance at around the $450 price point. With nothing good coming out of AMD the prices will skyrocket and we will all get much less for our money, guaranteed.

Instead of pricing gamers out of the market completely, they will just force us all down a performance bracket and charge the same for it. So if you can afford a 1080ti today, you can maybe afford a 1080 class card later, but not the Ti. If you can afford a 1080 today, you can afford 1070 class card next time etc etc.
The problem with this theory is that no one will upgrade then.
 

moonbogg

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The problem with this theory is that no one will upgrade then.
I am convinced Nvidia is still conducting market research with the pricing to see just how far they can push the envelope. I believe the new trend started with the 600 and 700 series with the Titan's and overpriced mid rangers. They kept pushing the Titan price tag out to $1,200 and no one even bated an eye. They just flew off the shelves no matter what, so clearly $1,200 wasn't anywhere near expensive enough for a card targeted at the top end enthusiasts. So, what they did next was just skip past a whole bunch of incremental increases and delivered a new Titan at $3,000. That should be enough to let them really gauge how much these deep pocketed gamers are actually willing to spend.
Once they get that all dialed in and figured out, the rest of the lineup will simply fall in accordingly. If enough people with traditional Titan purchase histories splashed out on this $3,000 card, then the pure gaming variants will certainly come in much more expensive than ever before and those same people will buy again. So, the gaming variant might come in at $1,500 to $2,000 for the full blown uncut card.
What do you think that Ti will cost? Well, since Ti people usually spend about $650 to $700, then the new Ti will likely cost about $650 to $700! Oh but hang on. What will you get for that price? Nothing close in performance to that $2,000 Titan, that's for sure. Nope, instead this time you will get 1080 class performance. So you see, they can simply call it a Ti but give you a mid ranger instead. This way they simply sell the same card as always yet SHIFT the entire stack up a huge price bracket and rename everything again, all because those deep pocketed Titan people are able and willing to part with a measly 3k to get that latest GPU.
The bottom line is this: Why should Nvidia sell us Ti class performance for $700 when they can sell it for $2,000 instead? This time I bet they got something else for our $700 cheap asses. Its called a mid range GPU with a Ti sticker on it.
 
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happy medium

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Release order/prices of the Pascal lineup.
Gtx1080- $599 / $699 FE
Gtx1070-$379 / $449 FE
Gtx1060- $249
Gtx1080ti-$699
Gtx1070ti-$449

Add $50 to these prices for the next generation.
 
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Head1985

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I am convinced Nvidia is still conducting market research with the pricing to see just how far they can push the envelope. I believe the new trend started with the 600 and 700 series with the Titan's and overpriced mid rangers. They kept pushing the Titan price tag out to $1,200 and no one even bated an eye. They just flew off the shelves no matter what, so clearly $1,200 wasn't anywhere near expensive enough for a card targeted at the top end enthusiasts. So, what they did next was just skip past a whole bunch of incremental increases and delivered a new Titan at $3,000. That should be enough to let them really gauge how much these deep pocketed gamers are actually willing to spend.
Once they get that all dialed in and figured out, the rest of the lineup will simply fall in accordingly. If enough people with traditional Titan purchase histories splashed out on this $3,000 card, then the pure gaming variants will certainly come in much more expensive than ever before and those same people will buy again. So, the gaming variant might come in at $1,500 to $2,000 for the full blown uncut card.
What do you think that Ti will cost? Well, since Ti people usually spend about $650 to $700, then the new Ti will likely cost about $650 to $700! Oh but hang on. What will you get for that price? Nothing close in performance to that $2,000 Titan, that's for sure. Nope, instead this time you will get 1080 class performance. So you see, they can simply call it a Ti but give you a mid ranger instead. This way they simply sell the same card as always yet SHIFT the entire stack up a huge price bracket and rename everything again, all because those deep pocketed Titan people are able and willing to part with a measly 3k to get that latest GPU.
The bottom line is this: Why should Nvidia sell us Ti class performance for $700 when they can sell it for $2,000 instead? This time I bet they got something else for our $700 cheap asses. Its called a mid range GPU with a Ti sticker on it.
+mining mania
 

tviceman

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I am convinced Nvidia is still conducting market research with the pricing to see just how far they can push the envelope. I believe the new trend started with the 600 and 700 series with the Titan's and overpriced mid rangers. They kept pushing the Titan price tag out to $1,200 and no one even bated an eye. They just flew off the shelves no matter what, so clearly $1,200 wasn't anywhere near expensive enough for a card targeted at the top end enthusiasts. So, what they did next was just skip past a whole bunch of incremental increases and delivered a new Titan at $3,000. That should be enough to let them really gauge how much these deep pocketed gamers are actually willing to spend.
Once they get that all dialed in and figured out, the rest of the lineup will simply fall in accordingly. If enough people with traditional Titan purchase histories splashed out on this $3,000 card, then the pure gaming variants will certainly come in much more expensive than ever before and those same people will buy again. So, the gaming variant might come in at $1,500 to $2,000 for the full blown uncut card.
What do you think that Ti will cost? Well, since Ti people usually spend about $650 to $700, then the new Ti will likely cost about $650 to $700! Oh but hang on. What will you get for that price? Nothing close in performance to that $2,000 Titan, that's for sure. Nope, instead this time you will get 1080 class performance. So you see, they can simply call it a Ti but give you a mid ranger instead. This way they simply sell the same card as always yet SHIFT the entire stack up a huge price bracket and rename everything again, all because those deep pocketed Titan people are able and willing to part with a measly 3k to get that latest GPU.
The bottom line is this: Why should Nvidia sell us Ti class performance for $700 when they can sell it for $2,000 instead? This time I bet they got something else for our $700 cheap asses. Its called a mid range GPU with a Ti sticker on it.
All companies are always trying to figure out what they can get for their product that maximizes profit and revenue. That is obvious. But saying "flew off the shelves" is only relative to how many units were on the shelves to begin with. The x80 TI's and Titans don't sell nearly as much as the x80's, x70's, and x60's variants. The total revenue and profit for any single one of those slower product lines is far greater than what the Titan and x80 TI's revenue produce. Looking at the much-loved steam hardware survey, the 1080 has 2x the users as the 1080 TI, the 1070 has 2x as many users as the 1080, and the 1060 has 8x as many users as the 1070. The 1050 TI even has 5-6x more users as the 1070. $150-300 is still far and away the sweet spot for video cards and if the gains are only 20% in that segment, then Nvidia will be shooting themselves in the foot. And if it is going to cost $800 to get a 15% improvement over last gen's $700 x80 TI, then again, no one is going to bite.
 

Head1985

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why should they care.Miners wil buy them.This is how it is today(sadly) pc gaming is dead.Miners already killed pc gaming.
 

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