Aruba police official:

[brunswickite]

it is sad, but she did make poor decisions that put her in this position.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Baked
Some friends she had.

No kidding. In the end it was of her own doing but her friends should have been looking out for her, especially if they noticed that she was acting strangely which they are mentioned when they were interviewed by the authorities.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
In a later post he called her a whore. I believe that it was her inexperience that got her into trouble. She probably wasn't use to drinking and carrying on and that was the reason for her poor judgement. I seriously doubt she was a "Loose" Woman.

I had to define loose because people like you don't seem to understand it. Poor judgement? Sure she was under the influence of alcohol, but if a girl has any morals, she's not going to get in a car with a guy she just met.

It's as simple as that, and no I'm not being insensitive. I've seen and known girls who have made the mistake of mixing with the wrong guy - and what happens in the end? They end up getting raped, getting an abortion, and in this girl's case, killed. You people are just liberal sympathizers. Grow the hell up and wake up.

Poor judgement? :roll:

If she did it with that guy, even though she was inibriated, she would've done it with some other guy in the states. It wouldn't make a difference. Same story in the end.

 

[KarenMarie]

Wow... i did not expect this thread to turn into a fight.

Yes, if she left with the rest of her friends this probably would not have happened. Yes, she should not have been drunk with stangers.

But that does not make murder what she deserved. A good hangover and a few days puking would have sufficed... but not being murdered.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Stop acting like a jerk. You are probably just pissed off that she is dead because the less whores around, the higher the likelyhood you will remain a virgin.
She made a terrible choice but did not deserve to die for it. A lot of KIDS make mistakes growing up, some much worse than what she did.

That's the most logical thing I've heard in this thread.

:disgust:

 

[ohtwell]

So, which of you guys calling her a whore actually know her? Oh, none of you. Well, then STFU. You are making accusations about her character from no real evidence.


The last I heard, there was no confession of murder, just a confession that "something bad happened to her." Very sad news.


: ) Amanda

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Wow... i did not expect this thread to turn into a fight.

Yes, if she left with the rest of her friends this probably would not have happened. Yes, she should not have been drunk with stangers.

But that does not make murder what she deserved. A good hangover and a few days puking would have sufficed... but not being murdered.

Of course she didn't deserve it, but if you're getting in a car with a stranger - anything can happen. I believe that's the point to be made.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: ohtwell
So, which of you guys calling her a whore actually know her? Oh, none of you. Well, then STFU. You are making accusations about her character from no real evidence.


The last I heard, there was no confession of murder, just a confession that "something bad happened to her." Very sad news.


: ) Amanda

He first said he killed her. then he retracted and said something bad happened to her. When I posted this thread last night, he offered to take the authorities to the body... but since I woke up this morning... it seems things have changed.

 

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

He first said he killed her. then he retracted and said something bad happened to her. When I posted this thread last night, he offered to take the authorities to the body... but since I woke up this morning... it seems things have changed.

Every news source is sayings something different. It's hard to know what's really going on.


: ) Amanda

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Wow... i did not expect this thread to turn into a fight.

Yes, if she left with the rest of her friends this probably would not have happened. Yes, she should not have been drunk with stangers.

But that does not make murder what she deserved. A good hangover and a few days puking would have sufficed... but not being murdered.

Of course she didn't deserve it, but if you're getting in a car with a stranger - anything can happen. I believe that's the point to be made.

And you should have just stated that with out calling into question her lack of morals. Nobody is denying that it was stupid of her to do that. It was bad judgement on her part due to her being intoxicated, a state all her friends said she wasn't use to being in.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Wow... i did not expect this thread to turn into a fight.

Yes, if she left with the rest of her friends this probably would not have happened. Yes, she should not have been drunk with stangers.

But that does not make murder what she deserved. A good hangover and a few days puking would have sufficed... but not being murdered.

Of course she didn't deserve it, but if you're getting in a car with a stranger - anything can happen. I believe that's the point to be made.

And you should have just stated that with out calling into question her lack of morals. Nobody is denying that it was stupid of her to do that. It was bad judgement on her part due to her being intoxicated, a state all her friends said she wasn't use to being in.

It's obvious why anyone would question her morals, especially since there's speculation that sexual contact was involved (kissing, etc.) If that's hard to believe, then I would have the hardest time figuring out what she was doing there in the first place.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Wow... i did not expect this thread to turn into a fight.

Yes, if she left with the rest of her friends this probably would not have happened. Yes, she should not have been drunk with stangers.

But that does not make murder what she deserved. A good hangover and a few days puking would have sufficed... but not being murdered.

Of course she didn't deserve it, but if you're getting in a car with a stranger - anything can happen. I believe that's the point to be made.

And you should have just stated that with out calling into question her lack of morals. Nobody is denying that it was stupid of her to do that. It was bad judgement on her part due to her being intoxicated, a state all her friends said she wasn't use to being in.

It's obvious why anyone would question her morals, especially since there's speculation that sexual contact was involved (kissing, etc.) If that's hard to believe, then I would have the hardest time figuring out what she was doing there in the first place.

Oh it's not hard for me to believe that someone like you would question her morals, trust me on that!

 

[MaxDepth]

Carlos & Chariles pics of one of the arrested bubs.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

It's obvious why anyone would question her morals, especially since there's speculation that sexual contact was involved (kissing, etc.) If that's hard to believe, then I would have the hardest time figuring out what she was doing there in the first place.

I would certainly question her judgement... but do not know if I am in a position to question her morals. I don't think anyone is really in a postition to question her morals.

Hypothetically... let's say that she is a good girl... and she got hammered. And she ended up in a bathroom throwing her guts up. And her friends were leaving and when they could not find her, took it for granted that she had already gone, so they split without her. Then comes these boys who see an opportunistic situation. At this point she is drunk and not thinking clearly and trusts that they will get her home safely. If she went with them... thinking they were friendly and would take care of her, this can not be a question of morals.

They are stories of how she met a boy while on vacation and was seeing him for the past ferw days. What if he was the boy who harmed her? She would have thought she knew him enough that he would get her home and not kill her, right. That makes her stupid, not loose.

And since we are sitting here, not knowing what really happened... it is impossible for us to know what took place. And since none of us know her personally.. we cannot question her morals.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Carlos & Chariles pics of one of the arrested bubs.

This site has been suspended for repeatedly crashing the server.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Wow... i did not expect this thread to turn into a fight.

Yes, if she left with the rest of her friends this probably would not have happened. Yes, she should not have been drunk with stangers.

But that does not make murder what she deserved. A good hangover and a few days puking would have sufficed... but not being murdered.

Of course she didn't deserve it, but if you're getting in a car with a stranger - anything can happen. I believe that's the point to be made.

And you should have just stated that with out calling into question her lack of morals. Nobody is denying that it was stupid of her to do that. It was bad judgement on her part due to her being intoxicated, a state all her friends said she wasn't use to being in.

It's obvious why anyone would question her morals, especially since there's speculation that sexual contact was involved (kissing, etc.) If that's hard to believe, then I would have the hardest time figuring out what she was doing there in the first place.

Oh it's not hard for me to believe that someone like you would question her morals, trust me on that!

The problem that I have with you, Nikamichi, is that you make a moral judgement on her without knowing her and without having been there to see all this go down. You imply through your words that her getting murdered (possibly) is somehow just punishment for her "loose morals", and this puts you down as a major asshat in my book.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

It's obvious why anyone would question her morals, especially since there's speculation that sexual contact was involved (kissing, etc.) If that's hard to believe, then I would have the hardest time figuring out what she was doing there in the first place.

I would certainly question her judgement... but do not know if I am in a position to question her morals. I don't think anyone is really in a postition to question her morals.

Hypothetically... let's say that she is a good girl... and she got hammered. And she ended up in a bathroom throwing her guts up. And her friends were leaving and when they could not find her, took it for granted that she had already gone, so they split without her. Then comes these boys who see an opportunistic situation. At this point she is drunk and not thinking clearly and trusts that they will get her home safely. If she went with them... thinking they were friendly and would take care of her, this can not be a question of morals.

They are stories of how she met a boy while on vacation and was seeing him for the past ferw days. What if he was the boy who harmed her? She would have thought she knew him enough that he would get her home and not kill her, right. That makes her stupid, not loose.

And since we are sitting here, not knowing what really happened... it is impossible for us to know what took place. And since none of us know her personally.. we cannot question her morals.

I agree with you and it's a shame that trolls like Astaroth and Red Dawn have to call names to get their uninformed opinions across.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

It's obvious why anyone would question her morals, especially since there's speculation that sexual contact was involved (kissing, etc.) If that's hard to believe, then I would have the hardest time figuring out what she was doing there in the first place.

I would certainly question her judgement... but do not know if I am in a position to question her morals. I don't think anyone is really in a postition to question her morals.

Hypothetically... let's say that she is a good girl... and she got hammered. And she ended up in a bathroom throwing her guts up. And her friends were leaving and when they could not find her, took it for granted that she had already gone, so they split without her. Then comes these boys who see an opportunistic situation. At this point she is drunk and not thinking clearly and trusts that they will get her home safely. If she went with them... thinking they were friendly and would take care of her, this can not be a question of morals.

They are stories of how she met a boy while on vacation and was seeing him for the past ferw days. What if he was the boy who harmed her? She would have thought she knew him enough that he would get her home and not kill her, right. That makes her stupid, not loose.

And since we are sitting here, not knowing what really happened... it is impossible for us to know what took place. And since none of us know her personally.. we cannot question her morals.

I agree with you and it's a shame that trolls like Astaroth and Red Dawn have to call names to get their uninformed opinions across.

Yeah it's much better to call the victim a whore, at least you won't have to worry about her being able to defend herself.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
The problem that I have with you, Nikamichi, is that you make a moral judgement on her without knowing her and without having been there to see all this go down. You imply through your words that her getting murdered (possibly) is somehow just punishment for her "loose morals", and this puts you down as a major asshat in my book.

In an ideal world, you'd be able to fvck with a stranger, and not have to worry about being murdered. Casual sex is so much fun - and morally, it is a perfectly acceptable thing to do. Only fools postpone sex until marriage.

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
The problem that I have with you, Nikamichi, is that you make a moral judgement on her without knowing her and without having been there to see all this go down. You imply through your words that her getting murdered (possibly) is somehow just punishment for her "loose morals", and this puts you down as a major asshat in my book.

In an ideal world, you'd be able to fvck with a stranger, and not have to worry about being murdered. Casual sex is so much fun - and morally, it is a perfectly acceptable thing to do.

Well, I wouldn't go that far. If you're gay, you don't have to worry about unintended consequences like pregnancy.

Also, some people are wired differently in that they develop deep emotional bonds with sex (or they have to have some emotional bond before having sex) and casual recreational sex just isn't for them.

It's different for different people.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Yeah it's much better to call the victim a whore, at least you won't have to worry about her being able to defend herself.

If you were a saint, maybe I'd agree with you. But, since you like to twist the words that I've said and since you are most likely experiencing what one would call a mid-life crisis, you're excused.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

It's obvious why anyone would question her morals, especially since there's speculation that sexual contact was involved (kissing, etc.) If that's hard to believe, then I would have the hardest time figuring out what she was doing there in the first place.

I would certainly question her judgement... but do not know if I am in a position to question her morals. I don't think anyone is really in a postition to question her morals.

Hypothetically... let's say that she is a good girl... and she got hammered. And she ended up in a bathroom throwing her guts up. And her friends were leaving and when they could not find her, took it for granted that she had already gone, so they split without her. Then comes these boys who see an opportunistic situation. At this point she is drunk and not thinking clearly and trusts that they will get her home safely. If she went with them... thinking they were friendly and would take care of her, this can not be a question of morals.

They are stories of how she met a boy while on vacation and was seeing him for the past ferw days. What if he was the boy who harmed her? She would have thought she knew him enough that he would get her home and not kill her, right. That makes her stupid, not loose.

And since we are sitting here, not knowing what really happened... it is impossible for us to know what took place. And since none of us know her personally.. we cannot question her morals.

I agree with you and it's a shame that trolls like Astaroth and Red Dawn have to call names to get their uninformed opinions across.

You call me a troll with an uninformed opinion, when you are the one making the uninformed opinion. Answer my previous post:

The problem that I have with you, Nikamichi, is that you make a moral judgement on her without knowing her and without having been there to see all this go down. You imply through your words that her getting murdered (possibly) is somehow just punishment for her "loose morals", and this puts you down as a major asshat in my book.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Yeah it's much better to call the victim a whore, at least you won't have to worry about her being able to defend herself.

If you were a saint, maybe I'd agree with you. But, since you like to twist the words that I've said and since you are most likely experiencing what one would call a mid-life crisis, you're excused.

Twist you words?

This is what happens to chicks who are too loose.

women who are loose (aka whores)

Your words idiot, not mine or anybody elses.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

It's obvious why anyone would question her morals, especially since there's speculation that sexual contact was involved (kissing, etc.) If that's hard to believe, then I would have the hardest time figuring out what she was doing there in the first place.

I would certainly question her judgement... but do not know if I am in a position to question her morals. I don't think anyone is really in a postition to question her morals.

Hypothetically... let's say that she is a good girl... and she got hammered. And she ended up in a bathroom throwing her guts up. And her friends were leaving and when they could not find her, took it for granted that she had already gone, so they split without her. Then comes these boys who see an opportunistic situation. At this point she is drunk and not thinking clearly and trusts that they will get her home safely. If she went with them... thinking they were friendly and would take care of her, this can not be a question of morals.

They are stories of how she met a boy while on vacation and was seeing him for the past ferw days. What if he was the boy who harmed her? She would have thought she knew him enough that he would get her home and not kill her, right. That makes her stupid, not loose.

And since we are sitting here, not knowing what really happened... it is impossible for us to know what took place. And since none of us know her personally.. we cannot question her morals.

I agree with you and it's a shame that trolls like Astaroth and Red Dawn have to call names to get their uninformed opinions across.

You call me a troll with an uninformed opinion, when you are the one making the uninformed opinion. Answer my previous post:

The problem that I have with you, Nikamichi, is that you make a moral judgement on her without knowing her and without having been there to see all this go down. You imply through your words that her getting murdered (possibly) is somehow just punishment for her "loose morals", and this puts you down as a major asshat in my book.

How about directing your comments to everyone who feels as I do in this thread? I love how people like you make bold comments towards someone simply because they don't agree. Get outside and experience life for what it is.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

It's obvious why anyone would question her morals, especially since there's speculation that sexual contact was involved (kissing, etc.) If that's hard to believe, then I would have the hardest time figuring out what she was doing there in the first place.

I would certainly question her judgement... but do not know if I am in a position to question her morals. I don't think anyone is really in a postition to question her morals.

Hypothetically... let's say that she is a good girl... and she got hammered. And she ended up in a bathroom throwing her guts up. And her friends were leaving and when they could not find her, took it for granted that she had already gone, so they split without her. Then comes these boys who see an opportunistic situation. At this point she is drunk and not thinking clearly and trusts that they will get her home safely. If she went with them... thinking they were friendly and would take care of her, this can not be a question of morals.

They are stories of how she met a boy while on vacation and was seeing him for the past ferw days. What if he was the boy who harmed her? She would have thought she knew him enough that he would get her home and not kill her, right. That makes her stupid, not loose.

And since we are sitting here, not knowing what really happened... it is impossible for us to know what took place. And since none of us know her personally.. we cannot question her morals.

I agree with you and it's a shame that trolls like Astaroth and Red Dawn have to call names to get their uninformed opinions across.

You call me a troll with an uninformed opinion, when you are the one making the uninformed opinion. Answer my previous post:

The problem that I have with you, Nikamichi, is that you make a moral judgement on her without knowing her and without having been there to see all this go down. You imply through your words that her getting murdered (possibly) is somehow just punishment for her "loose morals", and this puts you down as a major asshat in my book.

How about directing your comments to everyone who feels as I do in this thread? I love how people like you make bold comments towards someone simply because they don't agree. Get outside and experience life for what it is.

What you can't stand by your opinions without the help of others? If they, like you, are calling her immoral and a whore then they too are as big a douchebag as you are.