Artificially successful candidates

[Farang]

Candidates like Clinton an Nixon have had advantages from their backgrounds--Nixon in picking up California, Clinton in Arkansas and the south. Try to come up with the ultimate candidate whose background alone would make him (or her) unbeatable in the general election.

I'll start:

A white Republican former governor of California with a black wife.

 

[TallBill]

An independent who is wealthy like Ross Perot and doesn't drop out and then re-enter the race.

 

[RichardE]

White Nascar owner with a black wife who went to a very quiet, respectable church and attended Harvard (perhaps even spending some time as a professor before joining nascar). (Grew up in one of the swing states)

Intellectuals
Rednecks
Black vote
Church vote
Independants
Appeals to Lefty elitists and down to earth rights.

 

[Craig234]

Father a former President, VP, Director of CIA, Ambassador to UN, Republican Party Chairman, Senator, and wealthy arms trader.

History of running businesses into the ground, with bailouts from 'friendly' Saudis.

Insider trading, Drunk Driving, business venture buying a baseball team in a way that screws local taxpayers, get huge 'bonus' (not a bribe, nosiree).

Serve as Governor and run state into the ground.

Repay debt to guy who got you out of Vietnam by getting state lottery to renew deal with corrupt company he's a lobbyist for; repay state lottery director with appt. to Supreme Court

Should be good for becoming President.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Father a former President, VP, Director of CIA, Ambassador to UN, Republican Party Chairman, Senator, and wealthy arms trader.

History of running businesses into the ground, with bailouts from 'friendly' Saudis.

Insider trading, Drunk Driving, business venture buying a baseball team in a way that screws local taxpayers, get huge 'bonus' (not a bribe, nosiree).

Serve as Governor and run state into the ground.

Repay debt to guy who got you out of Vietnam by getting state lottery to renew deal with corrupt company he's a lobbyist for; repay state lottery director with appt. to Supreme Court

Should be good for becoming President.

Fuck, do you guys have to ruin every single thread in this forum? Drop your act for just 30 seconds and play along with the damn thread title or just don't come in at all. I know you want to say the same thing over and over but you're saying it to the same 10 people.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Farang
Candidates like Clinton an Nixon have had advantages from their backgrounds--Nixon in picking up California, Clinton in Arkansas and the south. Try to come up with the ultimate candidate whose background alone would make him (or her) unbeatable in the general election.

I'll start:

A white Republican former governor of California with a black wife.

Do you actually think that afro-americans are going to vote for someone just because he is having sex with a black woman? How many afro-americans do you know?

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: Farang
Candidates like Clinton an Nixon have had advantages from their backgrounds--Nixon in picking up California, Clinton in Arkansas and the south. Try to come up with the ultimate candidate whose background alone would make him (or her) unbeatable in the general election.

I'll start:

A white Republican former governor of California with a black wife.

Do you actually think that afro-americans are going to vote for someone just because he is having sex with a black woman? How many afro-americans do you know?

Methinks that may even be a drawback.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Craig234
Father a former President, VP, Director of CIA, Ambassador to UN, Republican Party Chairman, Senator, and wealthy arms trader.

History of running businesses into the ground, with bailouts from 'friendly' Saudis.

Insider trading, Drunk Driving, business venture buying a baseball team in a way that screws local taxpayers, get huge 'bonus' (not a bribe, nosiree).

Serve as Governor and run state into the ground.

Repay debt to guy who got you out of Vietnam by getting state lottery to renew deal with corrupt company he's a lobbyist for; repay state lottery director with appt. to Supreme Court

Should be good for becoming President.

Fuck, do you guys have to ruin every single thread in this forum? Drop your act for just 30 seconds and play along with the damn thread title or just don't come in at all. I know you want to say the same thing over and over but you're saying it to the same 10 people.

The topic is what makes a successful candidate and he gave you an example of a successful candidate - only he described the qualities in some detail.

Pretty much on topic - even if not to your liking.

 

[shira]

A moderate, white, Christian, Medal-of-honor winner from a coal-mining town who was the first in this family to graduate from college. Earned a double-PhD in theology and physics, but for 10 years made a modest living as the minister of a black, inner-city church. After losing his wife and two young children to a drunken driver, he remained single and celibate for five years until he met his second wife, a Jewish lawyer for the ACLU who lost her own family during the 9/11 attack on the twin towers, at a retreat for victims of tragedy. He entered politics at his wife's urging, rapidly rising from city councilman to state senator to US Senator because of his charisma, wisdom, humility, and obvious compassion.

 

[Jaskalas]

Well if you?re looking for a manufactured candidate look no further than an Illinois Senator who is elected US Senator and then four years later becomes President.

 

[soundforbjt]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Well if you?re looking for a manufactured candidate look no further than an Illinois Senator who is elected US Senator and then four years later becomes President.

Sounds kinda like Lincoln's history.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Father a former President, VP, Director of CIA, Ambassador to UN, Republican Party Chairman, Senator, and wealthy arms trader.

History of running businesses into the ground, with bailouts from 'friendly' Saudis.

Insider trading, Drunk Driving, business venture buying a baseball team in a way that screws local taxpayers, get huge 'bonus' (not a bribe, nosiree).

Serve as Governor and run state into the ground.

Repay debt to guy who got you out of Vietnam by getting state lottery to renew deal with corrupt company he's a lobbyist for; repay state lottery director with appt. to Supreme Court

Should be good for becoming President.

Absolutely. What are the odds of a president's son being worthy of being president? Very slim, so it's pretty obvious that it's some kind of inherited legacy.

Obama has risen relatively quickly, but he did it through ability and skill, not family connections.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: Farang
Candidates like Clinton an Nixon have had advantages from their backgrounds--Nixon in picking up California, Clinton in Arkansas and the south. Try to come up with the ultimate candidate whose background alone would make him (or her) unbeatable in the general election.

I'll start:

A white Republican former governor of California with a black wife.

Do you actually think that afro-americans are going to vote for someone just because he is having sex with a black woman? How many afro-americans do you know?

You're right.. if Obama is elected her being black wouldn't matter much. Make that a Latino wife, like a woman Bill Richardson (except more attractive). She would be able to stump for him in the southwest.

And that isn't the only reason to vote for someone, but let's not pretend people always vote on substance

 

[the unknown]

Originally posted by: soundforbjt

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Well if you?re looking for a manufactured candidate look no further than an Illinois Senator who is elected US Senator and then four years later becomes President.

Sounds kinda like Lincoln's history.

And, like Lincoln, may have to deal with the "pro-America" states ceding from the union :Q

 

[Stunt]

So what is this? A competition to see who can blend the most special interest groups? Look at the number of white people voting for Obama, look at how few women are flocking to Palin...It's not about voting for the people that are most like you but having a candidate who is pragmatic and can appeal to Republicans, Democrats, Independents and Passives.

I think a socially progressive fiscal conservative or a moral compassionate progressive could appeal to many people; or at least be a breath of fresh air. In all honesty there are several wedge issues out there (gay marriage, abortion, health care, welfare, taxation, etc) that you will never be able to please everyone. I'd rather see someone who isn't out to please every socio/ethnic group there is even if it means going against most of their party - turns down money from special interests, cooperations, and unions.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Stunt
So what is this? A competition to see who can blend the most special interest groups? Look at the number of white people voting for Obama, look at how few women are flocking to Palin...It's not about voting for the people that are most like you but having a candidate who is pragmatic and can appeal to Republicans, Democrats, Independents and Passives.

I think a socially progressive fiscal conservative or a moral compassionate progressive could appeal to many people; or at least be a breath of fresh air. In all honesty there are several wedge issues out there (gay marriage, abortion, health care, welfare, taxation, etc) that you will never be able to please everyone. I'd rather see someone who isn't out to please every socio/ethnic group there is even if it means going against most of their party - turns down money from special interests, cooperations, and unions.

I'm not saying this is how we should pick our candidates but often circumstantial things that are more or less accidental can help a candidate in vital areas. Nixon and Reagan coming from California as Republicans, Clinton an Carter being southerners, Obama being black (at least helped him among the black population), etc. So I guess my question is what is the ideal biography of a presidential candidate, to form the backbone of his brand before he applies his (or her) stances on issues?