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artifacts issue

Malak

Malak

Lifer
Ok, first time I've ever had artifacts, and it's kinda wierd. The last thing installed was Need For Speed Underground 2, and it started happening immediately after that. However, how can a game affect it in windows? I am getting artifacts in windows now too. I ran ATI tool to use the artifact scanner, and it gets hit fast. I have checked with that scanner before and never got artifacts. I also only get artifacts in windows if I play a game or run that scanner, otherwise I can run windows all day just fine. Just today it started, and like I said, all I did was install NFSU2.
 
Heat and PSU is fine, and I have settings at default speeds. Even while it was OCed it ran fine. Like I said, just started today.
 
Have you checked your voltages while you are getting artifacting? Im assuming you can monitor the card temperature.

My AIW 9700pro started showing artifacting out of the blue after months of rock solid stability, turned out my +12v Rail on my Antec Truepower 480 was dropping for some odd reason. I put an enermax 350watt unit I had laying around in and its been stable again for 1 1/2years (recently it again started showing artifacting...the original fan died. Replaced it with a VGA cooler rev3 and its perect once again). The antec unit showing issues with the AIW powers my 6800 rig with no issues.
 
12v is hopping between 11.88 and 11.94 during scan. It's a brand new PSU, 480w. I doubt that's the issue.
 
Originally posted by: malak
12v is hopping between 11.88 and 11.94 during scan. It's a brand new PSU, 480w. I doubt that's the issue.
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IIRC, 5% +/- is acceptable. (those reading were while it was actually artifacting?)

As far as being a brand new PSU, mine was only a few months old, a quality 480w Antec (that still tests out perfectly), and after I pulled it from the AIW rig ran for ~ a year driving a ti4200 and the last 6months with a 6800 (almost exactly the same platform as my AIW rig) so, you never know.

 
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: malak
12v is hopping between 11.88 and 11.94 during scan. It's a brand new PSU, 480w. I doubt that's the issue.
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IIRC, 5% +/- is acceptable. (those reading were while it was actually artifacting?)

As far as being a brand new PSU, mine was only a few months old, a quality 480w Antec (that still tests out perfectly), and after I pulled it from the AIW rig ran for ~ a year driving a ti4200 and the last 6months with a 6800 (almost exactly the same platform as my AIW rig) so, you never know.
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Yeah that was during artifacting too. The thing is, why would it just suddenly do it? I've been playing fine until now.
 
Yeah that was during artifacting too. The thing is, why would it just suddenly do it? I've been playing fine until now.
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In both cases for me (PSU and Heat related due to fan dying), it did just suddenly happen, and it was fine up to that point (and after I fixed it) Luckily, I always have lots of parts lying around, so I was able to just swap stuff out.

I'd be careful, you don't want to damage your card.
 
Well the heat seems fine and the PSU seems fine. Is there anyway to reset a video card? Like if you OCed it, reset everything like factory? I hit default in ATITool but wanted to make sure.
 
ATITool is telling me default is 540 core and 590 memory, but I thought I read the memory was supposed to be at 550...
 
Its strickly a video card issue if its artifacting, ATI tool can't see your display.

Are you absolutely sure its not overheating? You are seeing artifacting all the time now?
 
Uhm, uninstall ATITool, completely, and do a cold-boot cycle, let the machine sit, off, for an hour or so to cool down, and then reboot, and see what happens.

ATITool is funky, and can do funky thing. AFAIK, the "artifact scanner", if you clicked on what I think you did, actually slowly starts to overclock your card at the same time, and once it starts to artifact, no amount of clicking "stop" or "default clocks" will get it to stop, at least in my experience with my R9200. Plus, I experienced instability with my system, if I had ever run ATITool during that session. I think it does funny things, especially to the freq PLLs on the card, and sometimes that causes issues. I'm going to give the fairly-new 0.23 version a shot again though, maybe it works better than prior versions did.
 
This happened to my friend just a few days ago, with a Radeon 9800 XT card. He had artifacting in Windows...I could see it through Netmeeting. He turned the PC off for about 8 hours, turned it back on, and it was fine. It's still running at 83 celcius with no artifacting now. This PC was on for 40 days straight (yes, that's right, I said 40 days straight) without a single reboot. Conclusion is that prolonged PC use without reboot can cause this too. It's too much stress on the card for too long of a time.
 
Originally posted by: malak
I also only get artifacts in windows if I play a game or run that scanner, otherwise I can run windows all day just fine.
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What video card do you have? What temperature is the core running at?

The scanner does use either DirectX or OpenGL for the 3D view, and that may stress your video card, even just a little bit, and might be causing it to artifact.

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Uhm, uninstall ATITool, completely, and do a cold-boot cycle, let the machine sit, off, for an hour or so to cool down, and then reboot, and see what happens.

ATITool is funky, and can do funky thing. AFAIK, the "artifact scanner", if you clicked on what I think you did, actually slowly starts to overclock your card at the same time, and once it starts to artifact, no amount of clicking "stop" or "default clocks" will get it to stop, at least in my experience with my R9200. Plus, I experienced instability with my system, if I had ever run ATITool during that session. I think it does funny things, especially to the freq PLLs on the card, and sometimes that causes issues. I'm going to give the fairly-new 0.23 version a shot again though, maybe it works better than prior versions did.
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No, it doesn't overclock if you just clicked scan for artifacts. That's if you click the "Find Max Core/Mem" button. I don't think ATITool is the reason why you were getting artifacts. My friend had it weeks before we installed ATITool (he had never told me) to check the temperatures. He turned his PC off before going to bed, for about 8 hours, and next morning it was perfectly fine, even running at about 83 celcius.
 
Hmm, I generally keep the PC's running, maybe I should just reboot daily. I'll keep it off for a while.
 
Conclusion is that prolonged PC use without reboot can cause this too. It's too much stress on the card for too long of a time.
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No, prolonged use means nothing...HEAT is the culprit. 40 days is no big deal with XP or Win2k with a PC with adequate cooling, my PC's are never shut down except for replacing hardware, and rebooted only with driver changes ect.
 
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