Artifacts? graphical glitches?

Shikhee

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Hi, not quite sure how to label this but the title is pretty close. But I've been getting these square shaped glitches or whatever you want to call it randomly. It could be in a game, an application, or simply just occur on the desktop (desktop being the hardest to get rid of, when it happens in an application i can just re size it and it will go away temporarily)

Current specs are
i5 3570k @ 4.2 Ghz
asrock z77 pro4
8gb of crucial ram
r9 280x (sapphire tri-x)
650 watt 80+ gold seasonic psu

When this issue started I was running an xfx 7870, it's what prompted me to get this GPU, and has been happening ever since ccc 13.6 at least, on 15.9 now

If I left out any needed info let me know. It does show up on a screen grab, here's an example of it happening

http://i.imgur.com/etDnk4t.png
 

Shikhee

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mikeymikec

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PSUs degrade in terms of output over time. Has this issue been occurring more often recently?

Before you changed the graphics card I would have said that the card is the most likely culprit, however I find it highly unlikely that you would have the misfortune of two cards failing in exactly the same way.

Does the issue occur often enough that you could temporarily remove the card and go back to integrated graphics for a while without it being a serious bother?

I was going to say that going back to integrated graphics would make your power needs drop sharply, however I'm not so sure come to think of it, as modern graphics cards' power needs in near-idle / 2D mode have changed drastically in recent years. On the other hand I remember how my 5770's fan speed would increase noticeably when using Firefox and video hardware acceleration.
 
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LTC8K6

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The video card should not be pulling much power just displaying the desktop, though.

If it's occurring when the video card isn't doing much, then I have to wonder if it's the power supply.

I would expect the PS to give trouble when the card is under heavy load, and pulling max power.

How about running a benchmark to see if the problem gets really bad? Like Valley or Heaven or even Furmark?
 

Shikhee

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Oct 7, 2015
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The video card should not be pulling much power just displaying the desktop, though.

If it's occurring when the video card isn't doing much, then I have to wonder if it's the power supply.

I would expect the PS to give trouble when the card is under heavy load, and pulling max power.

How about running a benchmark to see if the problem gets really bad? Like Valley or Heaven or even Furmark?

I can run full Unigine benchmarks, furmark benchmarks, prime 95, intel burn in tests, etc without a problem.

But on the same hand, I could be browsing the internet, open a new page and there it is.

And another picture
http://i.imgur.com/ZOj8Pe6.png

This happened in the game launcher, not even running yet. Re sizing it made it stop but it will happen again

This is what it should look like, that very same spot
http://i.imgur.com/YfPG7lt.png

Edit: Just ran a furmark benchmark, no problems whatsoever

http://i.imgur.com/TP6dplr.png

I can't seem to recreate it, it kind of just happens

When it occurs on something like my browser I can re size it and it will go away temporarily. Like the picture of the example went away in 2 mouse clicks but it will come back.

It happens in games, browser, applications, sometimes just on the desktop ( desktop being the hardest to get rid of, have to uplug / replug in my dvi cords, or turn on amd's eyefinity then off)
 
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Ketchup

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Have you tried replacing video cables? Have you tried on a different monitor? I also do not see this being a power supply problem, as it occurs when the computer is under very little load.
 

Shikhee

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Have you tried replacing video cables? Have you tried on a different monitor? I also do not see this being a power supply problem, as it occurs when the computer is under very little load.

It occurs on both monitors indiscriminately, and I'll try and find a few display port cables and seeing if it gives the issue with that. Both are hooked up via DVI right now
 

Ketchup

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It occurs on both monitors indiscriminately, and I'll try and find a few display port cables and seeing if it gives the issue with that. Both are hooked up via DVI right now

Gotcha. Since you have Intel graphics from your CPU, you should be able to remove the video card and see if this happens with that chip. Hopefully we can narrow this down enough to help you find a way to get rid of it.
 

Shikhee

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Gotcha. Since you have Intel graphics from your CPU, you should be able to remove the video card and see if this happens with that chip. Hopefully we can narrow this down enough to help you find a way to get rid of it.

I'll try removing my gpu and reporting back. Only problem is I can't seem to recreate the problem so I might have to run it like that for a while.

Will be really salty if this GPU is bad in the exact same way my previous one was.

Just out of curiosity, if I do remove the GPU and this still occurs what's the next probable culprit?
 
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Ketchup

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I'll try removing my gpu and reporting back. Only problem is I can't seem to recreate the problem so I might have to run it like that for a while.

Will be really salty if this GPU is bad in the exact same way my previous one was.

Just out of curiosity, if I do remove the GPU and this still occurs what's the next probable culprit?

Something outside the computer. As I posted above, could be cable or screen, but does really limit the options.

Also, I had an issue years ago with one of the pci-express slots causing me grief. I switched to the select slot, and *poof* problem solved. So that's another thing you may want to try if the problem comes back (since your board does have two slots).
 

Shikhee

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Something outside the computer. As I posted above, could be cable or screen, but does really limit the options.

Also, I had an issue years ago with one of the pci-express slots causing me grief. I switched to the select slot, and *poof* problem solved. So that's another thing you may want to try if the problem comes back (since your board does have two slots).

Well I'm GPU-less right now, I'll probably try the other pci e slot sometime, would there be a huge difference running it in 2.0 instead of 3.0? I don't think it can saturate 2.0 but I could be wrong.

I wish I could recreate this problem, but it's random. So I might have to run it without a gpu for a while before I can determine it to be the problem
 
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Ketchup

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Well I'm GPU-less right now, I'll probably try the other pci e slot sometime, would there be a huge difference running it in 2.0 instead of 3.0? I don't think it can saturate 2.0 but I could be wrong.

I wish I could recreate this problem, but it's random. So I might have to run it without a gpu for a while before I can determine it to be the problem

You won't notice a difference between 2.0 and 3.0.
 

Shikhee

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You won't notice a difference between 2.0 and 3.0.

Alright, I though as much.

Only problem is I lack the cords needed to run both monitors without a GPU. Monitors need dvi or displayport, and I'm out of dvi slots, and no display port cords.

So that might influence it too