Article suggests RNC is dying party, but I disagree

[Zorba]

What I learned in 2016 was that Republicans are still the default party. If Democrats run someone else connects with, they will win easily. But if people don't/can't get excited for the person, republicans just win by default. Until Democratic make it their religious duty to vote, republicans will remain the default party, especially as republicans pull out all the stops on dirty tricks.

I do hope the current republican party burns in hell. However, the idea of a single real party in the US scares the shit out of me too. The constitution needs a lot of work to somehow make more parties viable, get money out of campaigns, and close a lot of the BS loopholes republicans have been using (refusing to approve or reject judges, etc).

 

[vi edit]

Boomers are dying at a click of around 10,000 per day. The next up cohorts are far more liberal leaning. Immigration (legal and otherwise) will continue to support democratic leaning policies. The demographic shift is inevitable. GOP knows it and are doing everything they can to stack the deck as best as they can while they grasp onto power (young appointments to courts, voter suppression, weaponized propaganda from their media outlets, ect).

It will happen, it just takes time to purge some diseases.

 

[dank69]

It was an insurance company boondoggle meant to mandate coverage without paying for it. Means they still get to mark the costs up 3x, write the "losses" off on tax breaks, and destroy the consumers. By all measure our existing system is an abject failure because it is not "single payer". If it worked like medicare in addition to addressing costs and drug prices, the American people would finally have healthcare they can afford.

Instead, Democrats "fixed" it and too few felt any relief. I'm for results, not the propaganda piece where you call something socialist while you apparently don't even know the meaning of the word. You know what taxes and benefits are called in the private sector? Insurance. Some people might think it's a great idea not to go bankrupt when you get sick. Where each HOUR can cost THOUSANDS of dollars. If you think you can afford that, then go right ahead and tell the world how rich you are. Meanwhile, I'll be fighting for the 99% who can't even take a trip to the ER without facing ruin.

We're here to help the American people, not to tell them that they are on their own.

It doesn't matter what it actually was. All that matters is what Americans thought it was. They thought it was exactly what you know we need, but to them what you know we need is nothing more that a government takeover of healthcare. They resoundingly rejected a much milder form of government takeover but you think they are ready now to accept the real thing? Nonsense.

 

[Atreus21]

You need to slow down stop the knee jerking and re-read my first sentence. The key word: CENSUS

These are not predictions. In 2016, it became official:

Minority babies are the majority among the nation’s infants. We will no longer be the majority very soon. The less white we become the less conservative we will be. People will move to the center which in today's world... is what you consider far left. That's how far right you have become. Your message now has to appeal to the LCD to stay alive...

....so still more predictions, now predicated on racism. This just gets better as you dig deeper.

Despite what racists may believe, conservativism and progressivism are ideologies. They aren't racial membership. Believe it or not, people can change ideologies without changing their skin color.

 

[alien42]

....so still more predictions, now predicated on racism. This just gets better as you dig deeper.

Despite what racists may believe, conservativism and progressivism are ideologies. They aren't racial membership. Believe it or not, people can change ideologies without changing their skin color.

that's rich, but complete bullshit.

of course the obvious reality is that anyone can look at any GOP gathering and clearly see it is dominated by white men (including the current White House). as for Democratic gatherings, well, they look just like the actual makeup of America, a mix of everything.

the right is accused of racism for a reason, because their policies have a history of being just that.

 

[soundforbjt]

....so still more predictions, now predicated on racism. This just gets better as you dig deeper.

Despite what racists may believe, conservativism and progressivism are ideologies. They aren't racial membership. Believe it or not, people can change ideologies without changing their skin color.

Please show us how diverse Trump's WH and cabinet are.

 

[bshole]

One would think 2016 would've administered a dose of humility into democrats who love predictions of their own supremacy.

Oh well.

The only supremacy in America is the corporate supremacy. We are all just pawns in their little game. It is frankly embarrassing that there are Americans still unaware of this given the internet.

 

[umbrella39]

....so still more predictions, now predicated on racism. This just gets better as you dig deeper.

Despite what racists may believe, conservativism and progressivism are ideologies. They aren't racial membership. Believe it or not, people can change ideologies without changing their skin color.

You used to be something more than just a right wing DERP caricature... Now you simply aren't worth anyone's time. At least the IncorruptibALT has comedy value. Last time you project your filth onto me. You can join the few and the proud in Ponklandia...

 

[Jaskalas]

They resoundingly rejected a much milder form of government takeover but you think they are ready now to accept the real thing? Nonsense.

It's a form of leadership. Charting a new course and driving it in, where others are inspired to follow when they otherwise would not.

What benefits were people seeing from the ACA? Not enough to make a difference. How many seniors want medicare stripped away from them? They don't want to lose it, those Americans will fight for their coverage. How many Americans would, if given the chance at real coverage? You have to fight for it. You have to campaign for it. You have to aim for the goal, not punt and expect a congratulation. People have to believe that we stand for policy that demonstrates real benefits. For everyone.

 

[vi edit]

It's a form of leadership. Charting a new course and driving it in, where others are inspired to follow when they otherwise would not.

What benefits were people seeing from the ACA? Not enough to make a difference. How many seniors want medicare stripped away from them? They don't want to lose it, those Americans will fight for their coverage. How many Americans would, if given the chance at real coverage? You have to fight for it. You have to campaign for it. You have to aim for the goal, not punt and expect a congratulation. People have to believe that we stand for policy that demonstrates real benefits. For everyone.

What benefits were people seeing? How about this.

Medicaid expansion is the underlying core of ACA. There were a number of other provisions (insurance portability, pre-existing conditions clauses, higher ages of dependents, ect) but the expansion was the real meat of bill. And it WAS working. Healthcare costs were stabilizing. Hospitals were being reimbursed for their services and able to expand services and employment. Rural access to healthcare boomed providing quality, high paying jobs to people there. Rural residents had better access to healthcare than they ever had. Some of the least healthy people in this country actually had their quality of life improve with basic access to health care.

But Republicans effectively demonized it and convinced the very people that benefited the most from it that it was evil and terrible for them.

 

[brycejones]

Please show us how diverse Trump's WH and cabinet are.

For that matter show how diverse the GOP is in the House and Senate.

 

[dank69]

It's a form of leadership. Charting a new course and driving it in, where others are inspired to follow when they otherwise would not.

What benefits were people seeing from the ACA? Not enough to make a difference. How many seniors want medicare stripped away from them? They don't want to lose it, those Americans will fight for their coverage. How many Americans would, if given the chance at real coverage? You have to fight for it. You have to campaign for it. You have to aim for the goal, not punt and expect a congratulation. People have to believe that we stand for policy that demonstrates real benefits. For everyone.

They rejected it before it even took effect. If the GOP did not sabotage it every chance they got, they would have seen more benefits. Did they punish the GOP for that behavior? No, they rewarded them for it. Good luck leading these people.

 

[Jhhnn]

They rejected it before it even took effect. If the GOP did not sabotage it every chance they got, they would have seen more benefits. Did they punish the GOP for that behavior? No, they rewarded them for it. Good luck leading these people.

Yep. Jim DeMint promised to make the ACA Obama's Waterloo when it was first proposed.

 

[senseamp]

Conservatism or America. Pick one. Both can't survive.

 

[soundforbjt]

For that matter show how diverse the GOP is in the House and Senate.

I was trying to give him an easy one first.

 

[soundforbjt]

What benefits were people seeing? How about this.

Medicaid expansion is the underlying core of ACA. There were a number of other provisions (insurance portability, pre-existing conditions clauses, higher ages of dependents, ect) but the expansion was the real meat of bill. And it WAS working. Healthcare costs were stabilizing. Hospitals were being reimbursed for their services and able to expand services and employment. Rural access to healthcare boomed providing quality, high paying jobs to people there. Rural residents had better access to healthcare than they ever had. Some of the least healthy people in this country actually had their quality of life improve with basic access to health care.

But Republicans effectively demonized it and convinced the very people that benefited the most from it that it was evil and terrible for them.

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Same thing they’re doing wrt the Mueller investigation. Conditioning them to not believe anything that comes from evidence obtained by a “corrupt “ FBI.