Article about Otellini's tenure at Intel

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There's a fairly interesting article in the new Atlantic Monthly about Paul Otellini and Intel. It's obviously aimed at an audience without the technical knowledge that you find at AT, but it's a long article written after some interviews with senior people and some good detail. Especially about the challenges for Intel in moving in to the phone cpu market.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...but-it-could-still-win-the-mobile-war/275825/
 

krumme

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Thanx for link. Great article. Worth a read. I lot of slips that wouldnt come from a man still on his position:

""it's important for me, as the CEO, that I tell our employees who it is that we have to compete with and who we're focused on, and I don't want them focused on ARM. I want them focused on Qualcomm or Nvidia or TI," he continued. "Or if someone like Apple is using ARM to build a phone chip, I want our guys focused on building the best chip for Apple, so they want to buy our stuff.""

What is he saying here ? :) - there is a lot of "Apple" in this article.

"But Otellini, or Krzanich, can't focus Intel on ARM's "intangible" rhetoric. The questions industry watchers should be asking, Otellini said, are these ones: "Do you think Intel can beat Qualcomm? Do you think Intel can beat Nvidia? Do you think Intel can compete with Samsung?"

The answer might be yes, Intel can compete with each one, but maybe not with them all.

Or, maybe, the great machine will dominate once again. "If I'm looking out five, ten years, they could potentially bury everybody else," said Rasgon, the analyst.
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Bury Samsung. Hmm. LOL. Analyst are funny. The ones paying for it is more funny. A crazy ending, of an otherwise good read.

The article does not mention Otellinis very problematic - to put it mildly - handling of the Dell relationsship during the early Athlon days. His accounting carreer comming into play here. But not touching this very dark, and downright illigal and extremely unethical, side of Intel and Otellinis story, you dont get the full picture of how he really did make a huge difference in a very difficult time at Intel history.

"he didnt ask for more money"
(Otellini about Michael Dell after an telephone conversation)
 

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"We ended up not winning it or passing on it, depending on how you want to view it. And the world would have been a lot different if we'd done it," Otellini told me in a two-hour conversation during his last month at Intel. "The thing you have to remember is that this was before the iPhone was introduced and no one knew what the iPhone would do... At the end of the day, there was a chip that they were interested in that they wanted to pay a certain price for and not a nickel more and that price was below our forecasted cost. I couldn't see it. It wasn't one of these things you can make up on volume. And in hindsight, the forecasted cost was wrong and the volume was 100x what anyone thought."

(emphasis added)

And that is pretty much how fortunes are won and lost anytime a disruptive technology or product comes along.

It may yet be Intel's own undoing that they failed to capitalize on such an early opportunity to get in on the ground-floor of the "next big thing".

Smartphones have clearly become the next killer app.

I'm personally appalled at the sight of 3 and 4 yr old kids glued to their smartphones, just playing games and stuff, but the shift is rather stark and apparent.

When this generation of kids grow up to be adults, workers by day and consumers by night, they are so not going to be interested in their grandfather's computer (desktop) or bulky TV-bound gaming console.

If you want to see the future all you have to do is step into a McDonalds and look around, take note of people sitting at the same table and eating right across from one another but are miles apart mentally because they are all glued to their twitter feeds and smartphones.

None of those people have any need for a desktop and when their kids grow up they won't either, even as working professionals.

I liken it to the classic male neck-tie. Once upon a time you wore one even if all you did was pump gas for a nickel an hour. Then it became niche and only the white-collar professional wore them. Now it is even more rare and nearly extinct in the professional world. There are a few circles, specific industries such as finance, where the male neck-tie is required dress. But everyone else just goes to work with Kacki pants and a button-down collared shirt.

I think the same is going to happen to laptops and desktops once this generation of kids grow up, having lived with a smartphone in hand for the first 20yrs of their lives.

Just this past week I had a gentlemen come to my house, maybe in his mid-20's, to do a complete inventory of my households effects (for moving to Asia) and he didn't have a laptop or tablet. He did the entire house inventory, silly fast too, with his smartphone.

I looked at it and he had all the info logged into a spreadsheet. This wasn't a simply "clicking a +1 button to count up the estimated number of boxes". He was documenting and filing accurate and specific information on the fly as we walked through the house.

The guy was clearly adept at inputting info with the touchscreen on his smartphone, to the point where it was definitely second-hand for him.

That may be uncomfortable and disconcerting to us 40 yr-old "grandpas" who can't accept the idea of real work being done without a keyboard and 24" LCD but it really is the future, it came and visited me just this past week ;)
 

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Great post, IDC. I'm sure you're a desktop guy like I am but it's hard to deny the change in culture among the teenage and younger folks these days. Computing and buying preferences have just completely changed among the younger folk -- I would love desktop to remain a thing for decades to come but I have concede that it's time is coming to an end. Certainly not this year, but maybe a decade? Slightly longer? I don't know. It just really confuses me when I see some of the more enthusiastic folks in this forum state that desktop will never die - it certainly has a lot of life left, but....the time will come for better or worse.

Article was a great read as well, and it in particular points out that intel considers nvidia, qualcomm and samsung to be their chief competitors right now. It really is too bad that Intel didn't hop on the iPhone. When it happened it was completely out of left field, nobody expected it- the first time I saw one that a friend had purchased in 2007, I couldn't believe how great it was. Oh well. Now i'm an iphone guy (even upgrade yearly).
 
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What doesn't exist yet, nor is on anyone's horizon, though, is the non-consumption tablet. Give me a color e-ink display, at least 11" on the diagonal (around 9x7" being the device size target, in my mind), enable good handwriting inputs for major GUI toolkits (What? You think I'm going to run Windows on it?), don't lock anything, and I'll bite. Make it IPS or LED, and I'll get a used one after they've been out for awhile :).

For the foreseeable future, however, creating content for them, on them, is not supported well, nor to be supported well. This works in favor of keeping developers a special class, which is very good for the Microsofts, Apples, and Facebooks of the world. It is not, however, good for those mathematically inclined creative users of said devices.

Mozilla's and Ubuntu's efforts are interesting, but still seem focused on making hackable walled gardens, not unlike Android. Maybe the technology just isn't there, yet, but smartphones and tablets are saddening devices to many geeks, because they are merely end-points. Creative efforts need to be able to go both ways, before you can start changing our minds. It's not that nothing can be done that is economically productive on them, but that not enough interesting can be done on them, and there is a critical mass of hardware and software design and implementation that will be needed for that to change.
 

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idk how anyone gets work done on anything short of an i5 with at least 2x 24" monitors

i'm 20, no smartphone, and I just don't understand the smartphone usage model - wtf do people do with them all day
 

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I think the next evolution from tablet will be convertibles, and that will allow much more versatility in terms of content creation. They already exist, although windows 8 convertibles haven't exactly been received well so far due to battery life - perhaps Haswell will change that perception.

Two things can happen: either pre-conceived notions on how to create content will change (I can think of several interesting examples of this) or the form factor will evolve into something more suitable over time.
 

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There are a few circles, specific industries such as finance, where the male neck-tie is required dress. But everyone else just goes to work with Kacki pants and a button-down collared shirt.
What's a button-down collared shirt? Is there an app for that?
 

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I'm personally appalled at the sight of 3 and 4 yr old kids glued to their smartphones, just playing games and stuff, but the shift is rather stark and apparent.

When this generation of kids grow up to be adults, workers by day and consumers by night, they are so not going to be interested in their grandfather's computer (desktop) or bulky TV-bound gaming console.

If you want to see the future all you have to do is step into a McDonalds and look around, take note of people sitting at the same table and eating right across from one another but are miles apart mentally because they are all glued to their twitter feeds and smartphones.

I think the same is going to happen to laptops and desktops once this generation of kids grow up, having lived with a smartphone in hand for the first 20yrs of their lives.

Just this past week I had a gentlemen come to my house, maybe in his mid-20's, to do a complete inventory of my households effects (for moving to Asia) and he didn't have a laptop or tablet. He did the entire house inventory, silly fast too, with his smartphone.

That may be uncomfortable and disconcerting to us 40 yr-old "grandpas" who can't accept the idea of real work being done without a keyboard and 24" LCD but it really is the future, it came and visited me just this past week ;)

That scares me, slightly. I mean, I have a smartphone, but I didn't grow up with one. So I'm not nearly as "adapted" to it, as some younger people are these days. I much prefer a mouse + keyboard for forum surfing. To me, a smartphone screen is tiny, hard to read, and even harder to click where you want to click, and tedious to enter text via a touchscreen.

I guess, I don't know how kids these days can stand using smartphones as their primary computers.

I still love to build PCs, but admit that the future is smaller, more power-efficient, and probably, with less expandability (more junk all just built-in and integrated). The Intel NUC is a major step in that direction, although it still allows for interchangable RAM, storage, and WiFi cards, as well as USB (and Thunderbolt, depending on model) peripherals.

(I've been thinking about getting a NUC myself, to replace my primary web-surfing PC. I wish it has standard headphone/mic jacks on it though, that seems kind of inexcusable not to have them. It does have HDMI audio (only, unless you use a USB hub and a USB sound card), but most monitors with speakers, sound pretty bad compared to even a mediocre set of computer speakers.
 

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From the article:
On stage, however, during the heavily produced keynote talks CEOs are now required to give, Otellini's persona and company do not inspire legions of cheering fans. When he steps on stage, there is no Jobsian swell of emotion, no one screams out, "We love you, Paul!"

This may be true, but I remember two times when he spoke to the employees of the company after earnings were announced that - while no one shouted "we love you, Paul" - a whole lot of people were emotionally moved. One time was last January when Paul announced that Intel had generated more than $50 billion in revenue and he announced a special "thank you bonus" to all employees and he told us how proud he was of the employees at Intel and what we accomplish and he got choked up and I looked around the video simulcast room that I was in and you could see a lot of employees visibly moved... including me. And then when he announced his retirement earlier this year... maybe no one was shouting "we love you!" but certainly he had the respect and admiration of a lot of company and people were saddened by his retirement.

My favorite thing about Paul is that he just answers questions directly and honestly. I've never heard him be outright deceptive, and I've never heard him totally dodge a question by answering something else. As the article said:
To his credit, he fired back responses to nearly all my questions about his tenure, company, and industry at a dinner during CES in Las Vegas and later at Intel's headquarters. And when he wasn't going to answer, he didn't duck, but repelled: "I'm not going to talk about that."
That's been my experience too - and I've asked him two questions personally over the years by walking up to the microphone in a packed auditorium and asking him directly. I was always very impressed with Mr. Otellini and I know that I will personally miss him as CEO. Besides which, he looks a lot like my father... so it's always been weird having him as CEO because it's like my father is up there (my father and Paul grew up close together and went to the same high school and university at the same time... there's some sort of family-like bond there :) ).



(emphasis added)
I think the same is going to happen to laptops and desktops once this generation of kids grow up, having lived with a smartphone in hand for the first 20yrs of their lives. That may be uncomfortable and disconcerting to us 40 yr-old "grandpas" who can't accept the idea of real work being done without a keyboard and 24" LCD but it really is the future, it came and visited me just this past week ;)

I completely and totally agree with you. First of all, it's totally disconcerting to me and I'm 42 years old, and I have a hard time imagining how anyone can do this. But I can see it happening and I can see where things are headed and I agree that the future is looking much closer to smartphones replacing computers for the majority of users. I still have a desktop computer at home with a 27" 2560x1440 screen, don't use the cloud for much of anything, and think Twitter is stupid, and Facebook is a waste of time and unsettling from a privacy perspective... but I can see that I'm like a dinosaur in the modern world where people using laptops (how do they fit everything on that tiny screen?) and smartphones (an even tinier screen!??) and things are mostly stored on the other side of an internet connection. I can see the future in a blurry sort of hazy way, and my vision seems to match more or less with IDC's.

Back on the original topic, I don't necessarily agree that this future means Intel is doomed, but certainly my company needs to step up it's game... big time.
 
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Any one know the names of the Japanese chipmakers that beat Intel in the end 80s which are mentioned in the article?
 

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Any one know the names of the Japanese chipmakers that beat Intel in the end 80s which are mentioned in the article?

Fujitsu, Hitachi, Matsushita, Mitsubishi, Nippon, and Toshiba to name a few. I'm sure there are others as well.
 

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Sorry for thread derail, but what happened to them? Never even knew Japan had a semiconductor industry, did they go enterprise?
 

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I think the switch to mobile device isn't really that surprising. We use whatever device to complete a task that we find the most convenient, and sometimes we even make concessions when it comes to the restrictions imposed by the device. I was talking to a friend last night who purchased an ASUS TF700 over a laptop simply because the ASUS tablet did everything he wanted when it came to computing, is light, and not that expensive compared to light-weight laptops (i.e. ultrabooks).

Something else just came to mind. I tend to hear the phrase, "I spend all day at work on a computer, and I don't want to do that when I get home!", quite often these days. It doesn't help that I work in an office environment, but the proliferation of computers in the workplace may push people toward wanting to avoid being tethered to an office chair.
 

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Sorry for thread derail, but what happened to them? Never even knew Japan had a semiconductor industry, did they go enterprise?

Two of them - NEC and Hitatchi - merged into Elpida, which recently filed for bankruptcy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elpida_Memory

Toshiba continues to make memory products in their fabs - but mostly concentrate on Flash and embedded DRAM rather than commodity DRAM.

There's a great description of the collapse of the Japanese semiconductor industry here:
http://semimd.com/lammers/2012/02/27/japan’s-dram-makers/
It doesn't talk much about US import tariffs on Japanese memory due to anti-competitive concerns, but that (probably) played a role as well.
 
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The shareholders couldnt have wished for a better ceo. The numbers speak for themselves. Fighting K7 with P4 for years and still having solid profit is impressive. I dont think anyone could have turned this tanker faster.

Intel is funny why do it do the most amazing and then sometimes just fail.

I guess they define themselves as producing cpu...:) - meaning innovation for new products is probably difficult.

(Sorry but this was written using Qualcomm arm s600 on a Samsung S4 - it still feels a mess but it can be done in bed. Nice when you are 40)
 

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Two of them - NEC and Hitatchi - merged into Elpida, which recently filed for bankruptcy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elpida_Memory

Toshiba continues to make memory products in their fabs - but mostly concentrate on Flash and embedded DRAM rather than commodity DRAM.

There's a great description of the collapse of the Japanese semiconductor industry here:
http://semimd.com/lammers/2012/02/27/japan’s-dram-makers/
It doesn't talk much about US import tariffs on Japanese memory due to anti-competitive concerns, but that (probably) played a role as well.

:D Thank you PM :thumbsup:
 

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Wonder what kind of Intel chip was specced out for the iPhone. Considering how long it took to get Atom into a phone (5 years from original iPhone), would it have been a x86 design? They clearly got far enough along to do some serious estimates regarding when they'd start making a profit on them. At least going by what Otellini has said.
 
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Back on the original topic, I don't necessarily agree that this future means Intel is doomed, but certainly my company needs to step up it's game... big time.

They have the capital, the talent, and the willingness to take risk. It is hard to conceive of a future without them IMO.
 

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I don't blame him for passing on the iPhone, I don't think anyone realized how revolutionary it would be at the time except maybe Steve Jobs.
 

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Two of them - NEC and Hitatchi - merged into Elpida, which recently filed for bankruptcy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elpida_Memory

Elpida was only a spun off of their RAM businesses ,
they spunned their other semi activities in Renesas.

Other than that , in the early 80s japan had the most
powerfull and advanced semiconductor industry , to the point
that the US counterpart was almost killed and was saved only
by the Reagan administration that forced the japanese firms
to share their industrial secrets with their US counterparts.