Art of making kimchi

ponyo

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We can buy kimchi at the supermarket, but we prefer to kill ourselves and make our own. It's hard work. But in the end, it's worth it because it tastes better. Making kimchi is becoming lost art as most young Koreans no longer know how to make kimchi and just buy it at stores. It's not the same.

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radish kimchi
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lxskllr

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I'm gonna keep my eyes open for the radish kimchi. Looks like Mother-In-Law makes a version, and it might showup in a shop around here. I love regular kimchi. I usually have a jar of vegetarian Wegmans brand in the fridge.
 
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Captante

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OMG that looks delicious! (I hate you!) ;)


Sadly even the thought of food right now isn't good courtesy of the Covid booster messing with my stomach/appetite a little!

All I could handle this morning was a scrambled egg and dry toast. :(
 
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AdamK47

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I think most Koreans don't want to make it themselves anymore because they don't want to wait a month after burying the pot in the ground for it to ferment.
 

kage69

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You don't have to bury it I'm pretty sure. It does require time though.

Looks bloody delicious ponyo, salivating over here. Would you call that paechu or kkakdugi kimchi? Or is that two batches? I forget the Korean name for it but the cucumber kimchi might be my fav, my pickle fixation showing maybe. Love me some spicy Korean pickles.

I'm on a mission to get my sons to appreciate Korean food. So far the kimchi is all for dad. They dig mandu though.
 
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ponyo

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I'm gonna keep my eyes open for the radish kimchi. Looks like Mother-In-Law makes a version, and it might showup in a shop around here. I love regular kimchi. I usually have a jar of vegetarian Wegmans brand in the fridge.
Radish kimchi is great because of the crunchy texture and the refreshing radish taste. It goes really great with soups and stews.

OMG that looks delicious! (I hate you!) ;)


Sadly even the thought of food right now isn't good courtesy of the Covid booster messing with my stomach/appetite a little!

All I could handle this morning was a scrambled egg and dry toast. :(
It's really lot of work when you make big batches like we do. I took afternoon nap to recharge, and I'm still sore. But it's worth it. It's labor of love.

I think most Koreans don't want to make it themselves anymore because they don't want to wait a month after burying the pot in the ground for it to ferment.
It doesn't take a month to ferment. Temperature plays a big role with fermentation speed. The reason they used to bury the pot was to keep it cool since they didn't have refrigerator back in the day. But now with modern fridges that can maintain precise temperature to exact degree, no one really buries it anymore. Kimchi will fully ripen in couple days at room temperature.

I moved most of the kimchi out to the garage since the temperature is much cooler there than inside the house where it's 70 F all the time. After couple of days in the garage, I'll move all the kimchi to garage fridges for permanent storage. I have 2 fridges in the garage I use to store kimchi and other food.

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I'm keeping couple small container batches inside the house at room temp so it will ripen faster. I'll move this to the kitchen fridge once it's ready.

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You don't have to bury it I'm pretty sure. It does require time though.

Looks bloody delicious ponyo, salivating over here. Would you call that paechu or kkakdugi kimchi? Or is that two batches? I forget the Korean name for it but the cucumber kimchi might be my fav, my pickle fixation showing maybe. Love me some spicy Korean pickles.

I'm on a mission to get my sons to appreciate Korean food. So far the kimchi is all for dad. They dig mandu though.
Thanks. It's two different batches of kimchi. One batch is Napa cabbage kimchi (baechu kimchi) and other batch is radish kimchi (kkakdugi kimchi).

The cucumber kimchi is great as well. We make that too, but we make smaller batches of the cucumber kimchi since you have to eat that pretty fast or else the cucumber gets all soft and sour.

Here's some of the different types of kimchi. We've pretty much made every type on that list. We have our own family recipe we use.

https://www.maangchi.com/recipes/kimchi

Fermented foods are more advanced type of food so it can take some time getting used to. And not everyone can handle the spicy heat. But once you develop the palate for it, it's super addicting and whole new culinary world opens up.

I love mandu and ate a ton when I visited Korea recently. You seem to know lot about Korean food. Have you visited Korea?
 

kage69

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Oh yeah, visited Korea and very much want to return. Your thread from that last trip where you hit Jeju, gave me daydreams later. You really know what you're doing with the documentation. Thanks for that link, going to print some of those recipes out. Unfortunately, my spouse is disgusted by kimchi. That and malt vinegar, she'll leave the room if I crack some open. She agrees with me on Korean pears being absolutely amazing though, so there's that.

Still. Knew I should have married a Korean girl.
 
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I'm thankful to have H-Mart & Zion market locally - we don't eat enough to justify making it ourselves. Our favorite brand is Twins.

 

MrSquished

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Kimchi is delicious, and so good for your gut flora/system, and that looks delicious.

I'm thankful to have H-Mart & Zion market locally - we don't eat enough to justify making it ourselves. Our favorite brand is Twins.


That looks amazing. I need to grab a couple of their flavors - I'd like to try the scallion one too. I hope the nearby H Mart carries them.

I have to hit up one of the multiple H Mart's around here. We have an H Mart plus a Super H Mart, and a variety of other Korean grocers. Plus Mitsuwa Marketplace, while Japanese focused, has some Korean products. 99 Ranch covers the Chinese food realm, without having to go into the city.

I just ordered a few Asian cookbooks - including one Korean one (another Vietnamese and another one by Jet Li that is multiple Asian regional cuisines) that sounded really good and is very well-reviewed. I have not cooked enough food from that region using good recipes and it's time to change that up. Honestly just wish I had a crazy hot cooktop to be able to do some serious wok cooking and give the food that wok hei you can get.

 

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Oh yeah, visited Korea and very much want to return. Your thread from that last trip where you hit Jeju, gave me daydreams later. You really know what you're doing with the documentation. Thanks for that link, going to print some of those recipes out. Unfortunately, my spouse is disgusted by kimchi. That and malt vinegar, she'll leave the room if I crack some open. She agrees with me on Korean pears being absolutely amazing though, so there's that.

Still. Knew I should have married a Korean girl.


Next time, instead of rubbing kimchi on your junk, try cooking with it.
 

MrSquished

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I'm thankful to have H-Mart & Zion market locally - we don't eat enough to justify making it ourselves. Our favorite brand is Twins.

I emailed that kimchi company and they said only one h Mart in Manhattan carries their kimchi around here because HMart is looking to exclusively sell their in-house brands. Eventually, apparently no h Mart will carry any other kimchi. But they're trying to get distribution with whole foods and trader Joe's so that's even better
 

ponyo

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I emailed that kimchi company and they said only one h Mart in Manhattan carries their kimchi around here because HMart is looking to exclusively sell their in-house brands. Eventually, apparently no h Mart will carry any other kimchi. But they're trying to get distribution with whole foods and trader Joe's so that's even better
Twins Premium Kimchi claims they don't use salted shrimp. That tells me their brand of kimchi is made for Western style palate. I add salted shrimp and fish sauce to kimchi when I make at home.

The brand of kimchi Costco sells is popular brand in Korea. But the US version is made without the salted shrimp and fish sauce while the version sold in Korea contains both. The reason I think is because the company thinks US consumers will be turned off by the smell/flavor added by the shrimp and fish sauce. But in my view, US version of Costco kimchi lacks flavor and taste because it's missing those two key ingredients.
 

MrSquished

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Twins Premium Kimchi claims they don't use salted shrimp. That tells me their brand of kimchi is made for Western style palate. I add salted shrimp and fish sauce to kimchi when I make at home.

The brand of kimchi Costco sells is popular brand in Korea. But the US version is made without the salted shrimp and fish sauce while the version sold in Korea contains both. The reason I think is because the company thinks US consumers will be turned off by the smell/flavor added by the shrimp and fish sauce. But in my view, US version of Costco kimchi lacks flavor and taste because it's missing those two key ingredients.

I'm not a big fan of the imported from Korea one at Costco. I'll see what the Jersey HMarts carry, otherwise it's easy enough to go to Manhattan and get the real deal from an Asian or Korean grocer.

Those ingredients don't worry me at all.
 

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Hardly anybody makes sauerkraut anymore it easy and tastes so much better than from the store, Half sour pickles are easy and rewarding to make. Only problem with half sours is the craving for a knish from the Deli in the town I grew up.
 
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MrSquished

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Found a place in the Jerz that just makes kimchi. I'll have to ask her what ingredients she uses

 

MrSquished

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Man. There are like 5 HMarts in less than a ten mile radius. The Ridgefield park Edgewater area is mostly Asian. NJ has a very large Korean population, and particularly concentrated in this area. I went to the largest H Mart. It's bigger than a lot of large grocery chains. I saw a million varieties of small fish and shrimp.

My Korean cookbook came. Apparently I will have zero issues finding ingredients
 

MrSquished

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The regular kimchi mixed with green scallion kimchi was sublime. These all didn't skip on the shrimp - a much better flavor than that Korean brand at Costco.

I'll have to get some white radish kimchi next time and mix all three together for even greater possibilities.

Padma Lakshmi's season of Taste the Nation was really good. A short 4 episode holiday themed season. Looking at holidays mostly from a lesser known perspective. The Jews for Hanukkah, the American Cubans for Christmas, the Wanpanoag Indian tribe from the new England area for Thanksgiving. Episode 4 was new years through the lens of Korean Americans. Good stuff.