Arpaio: PI hired to investigate judge's wife

[maddogchen]

You mean like the democrats did in the South for how many years?

Keep reaching buddy. You'll get there.

You've fallen so far into the abyss...I can't reach you....

 

[jhbball]

You mean like the democrats did in the South for how many years?

Keep reaching buddy. You'll get there.

oh look, AT's fail fuck dad has opinions.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm not certain why people want to see this guy in his own jail. He's done nothing but try to keep illegals off the streets. Which is what he was hired to do. Enforce the laws.

I do not understand it. Why is that a bad thing? I understand Liberals want the illegals roaming the streets and to give them Amnesty, but I'm not sure why they have that position. What benefit does it give to anybody in this country?

Please explain.

OK. I will explain, but don't think that because I can and will that you are capable of real understanding of what I will say. The simplest way I can explain it is this:

The human capacity for language makes thinking possible, the ability to create and transmit ideas, to manufacture mental constructs imaginatively that do not exist, to connect ideas to emotions such as pleasure and pain. This allows us to create dualities like good and evil and to search and examine what we how we want to define them and what we want them to mean. Each new child in the world has to grow up and learn what they mean. But what they mean for each of us is a result to experiences we don't even remember but which we can easily react to by feeling.

Now the intention of our upbringing by the vast majority of parents and guardians is to produce successful, productive, good people, let us call them good citizens.

So far, to summarize, we are creatures who see the world via duality, we compare and contrast things, often based on feelings we experiences now unconscious in our past. We believe in there is a good that is good and an evil that is evil. We want the good and we want the elimination of evil.

Now there are two ways in a dual world to create that feeling. Simply put, you can foster a love of the good or a hatred of evil, or a mixture of each. I believe that right here we begin to see the birth of the difference between conservative and liberal depending on that mixture.. I will try to explain:

The carrot and the stick is our short hand meme used to describe this. We can reward for good actions and punish for evil ones.

But what happens when we punish a child as evil for actions that are natural to our nature, say we come down viciously or psychologically ruthlessly against actions a child may take calling him or her evil at an age when a more socially acceptable behavior is beyond the child's development or is the result of some former rebellion against some similar discipline?

The facts are that by teaching, showing a child our hatred of evil, we can transfer that hate for evil to the child itself, it it's unsophisticated level of thinking. What happens then is that the child learns to hate, himself, and all who acted like he did. The hatred is never lost, but the memory of where it came from is repressed, because the child becomes like the parent, a hater of evil without the memory of how that hatred was the result of a personal experience.

Such children grow up to be those who favor punishment as a means of control. They believe they are good and doing what is good. This is why you support the sheriff.

The other way, the road so much less traveled, is where a child can grow up with some empathy left in tact for himself and others. Such a child loves the good for itself, for the fact that feeling for others, for the suffering of others, while it brings pain, also keeps one emotionally alive and connected. One hurts in the presence of evil but feels joy in the presence of love.

From this, if you wish, you can put together how people can experience the same world differently.

You can hate evil or you can love the good, but you can't do both because there is no love in hate and no hate in love. In fact, neither of them even exist, but that's another story. That is the story of what a man is who has had everything taken from him that can be taken, the story of what is to wash up on the shore after a mind ship wreak.

 

[brandonb]

Indeed. Arpaio ignored over 400 sex crimes and closed 85% of investigations without arrests. He literally did do absolutely nothing but "try to keep illegals off the streets," at the small expense of not doing his job.

Arpaio demonstrates how easily morons can be misled with rhetoric. He's a colossal failure by any metric--extremely soft on crime, high recidivism rates, hates the Constitution--but his idiot supporters ignore that because he talks tough.

OMG. He ignored 400 sex crimes!!!! I'm sure sheriffs all over the country ignore sex crimes. They leave that to the detectives. What do you expect a sheriff to do? If the detectives can't find evidence, the county prosecutors don't file charges. You don't know the circumstances of these sex crimes. BTW, who is saying he ignored 400 sex crimes? The victims? How the fuck would they know what Joe did with their cases or what they found out? Again, did Joe specifically tell these detectives or prosecutors NOT to work on these cases?

 

[MrPickins]

I like Sheriff Joe for the simple fact that his existence pisses off anyone with half a brain so much. I'd vote for him.


Twice!

Fixed that for you.

 

[rudeguy]

oh look, AT's fail fuck dad has opinions.

Southern democrats oppressing blacks is an opinion?

 

[JSt0rm]

confirming nazi's were socialists and communists and liberals. Liberals are communists and socialists and nazi. Conservatives are patriots and good god fearing white people with a few token Black, Hispanic and Asian people because they are inclusive.

We can put this to bed now.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

OMG. He ignored 400 sex crimes!!!! I'm sure sheriffs all over the country ignore sex crimes. They leave that to the detectives. What do you expect a sheriff to do? If the detectives can't find evidence, the county prosecutors don't file charges. You don't know the circumstances of these sex crimes. BTW, who is saying he ignored 400 sex crimes? The victims? How the fuck would they know what Joe did with their cases or what they found out? Again, did Joe specifically tell these detectives or prosecutors NOT to work on these cases?

You clearly didn't read the link. They had evidence. They did nothing. The guy plead guilty when charged after the family went public.

 

[brandonb]

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I need more drugs to understand a thing you say. Can you log on LunarRay and try with your alter-ego?

 

[rudeguy]

confirming nazi's were socialists and communists and liberals. Liberals are communists and socialists and nazi. Conservatives are patriots and good god fearing white people with a few token Black, Hispanic and Asian people because they are inclusive.

We can put this to bed now.

Works for me.


Let's grab lunch.

 

[brandonb]

You clearly didn't read the link. They had evidence. They did nothing. The guy plead guilty when charged after the family went public.

I read the article.

During the investigation, a nurse noted that there were no obvious signs of an assault, but investigators still collected samples that were later provided to the Arizona Department of Public Safety laboratory for testing, according to the claim.

Two months later, the lab reported that semen was detected on some of the items, and DPS advised the Sheriff's Office that investigators would need to collect a sample from a suspect for comparison.

Instead of collecting a sample from Patrick Morrison, sheriff's investigators closed the case as "inactive" in early 2008.

It wasn't until June 2011 that the case was reopened and a DNA sample was obtained from Patrick Morrison, according to the claim.

By then, he had repeatedly abused and molested his niece, according to the claim. He was arrested in February 2012.

But for years, relying only on the nurse's report that there was no evidence of an assault, Sabrina's family allowed Patrick to remain in and around the home, and her claims were disregarded.

So apparently the family also agreed nothing happened and they allowed the perp to stay in and around the home.

So apparently not only the sheriff but her own damn family ignored her sexual assault, and the sexual assault continued.

How is this Joe's fault?

 

[CitizenKain]

Southern democrats oppressing blacks is an opinion?

Did you know that those southern democrats became republicans? Or were you not smart to read that far in the book? I know you rednecks hate that book learning stuff, but maybe give it a try.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I read the article.



So apparently the family also agreed nothing happened and they allowed the perp to stay in and around the home.

So apparently not only the sheriff but her own damn family ignored her sexual assault, and the sexual assault continued.

How is this Joe's fault?

You aren't comprehending what you're quoting are you?

The family believed what they were told. That there was no evidence. They hung on to that believe that the Sheriff's office was telling them everything.

What they didn't know is that the Sheriff's office also was told that there was semen on some of the little girls samples. They did nothing to investigate that. Just kept telling the family there was no evidence.

Little girl reports being sexually assaulted and semen is found. You don't think they should have looked into that at all? Obtained a sample from the reported suspect?

But court records indicate that after sending evidence to the state crime lab, the Sheriff's Office did, in fact, receive a report back from the Arizona Department of Public Safety in May 2008. It said semen was detected on four different items that were tested the day after Sabrina reported the assault to her counselor at a Mesa middle school in 2007.


The report and the evidence it was based on sat idle until fall 2011. It likely was one of 400-plus sex crimes that the Sheriff's Office has conceded were ignored or inadequately investigated over several years during the mid-2000s. The Sheriff's Office began to reinvestigate many of the cases last year.

BTW, who is saying he ignored 400 sex crimes? The victims? How the fuck would they know what Joe did with their cases or what they found out?

You were saying?
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http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/03/09/20120309mcso-sex-assault-cases.html

 

[rudeguy]

Did you know that those southern democrats became republicans? Or were you not smart to read that far in the book? I know you rednecks hate that book learning stuff, but maybe give it a try.

Did they now?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Gore,_Sr.

 

[MrPickins]

I read the article.



So apparently the family also agreed nothing happened and they allowed the perp to stay in and around the home.

So apparently not only the sheriff but her own damn family ignored her sexual assault, and the sexual assault continued.

How is this Joe's fault?

Is he not the head of the department?

He is culpable for the failures that occur under his watch, especially when he fosters an environment that allows these failures to continue.

(All of this is assuming he's not directly responsible for many of the issues, which is probably a poor assumption)

 

[DrDoug]

Southern democrats oppressing blacks is an opinion?

You mean those who were once southern Democrats and who are now southern Republicans because of Johnson and the Democrats backing civil rights in the 60's? I know it can be difficult for the mentally handicapped like yourself to keep up with the times so I thought I would offer a bit of help to get you dialed back in.

:biggrin:

 

[rudeguy]

You mean those who were once southern Democrats and who are now southern Republicans because of Johnson and the Democrats backing civil rights in the 60's? I know it can be difficult for the mentally handicapped like yourself to keep up with the times so I thought I would offer a bit of help to get you dialed back in.

:biggrin:

You mean the democrats backing civil rights after they fought them? After they were ready to split the country up and fight a war to keep black people as slaves? Those democrats?

I'm ready and willing to learn. Please link to a republican policy based on race. I have a couple dozen democrat ones ready to post.

 

[kage69]

Did you know that those southern democrats became republicans? Or were you not smart to read that far in the book? I know you rednecks hate that book learning stuff, but maybe give it a try.

I doubt that would help, his kind have struggled to maintain their ignorance regarding Dixiecrats for years. That idiot has google and wiki at his fingertips, yet you can tell by this thread and pretty much all the others he's posted in that he's perfectly happy inside his little bubble of ignorance.

Every single time I've seen that stupid response, it's always from morons who regularly get their stupid asses stomped on these forums. Looks like the trend continues...

It's already been said here, but I'll reiterate over absolute agreement: everyone, regardless of political affinity, should have a huge problem with Asshole Arpaio's corrupt and racist behavior. Calling the man a scumbag might just be an insult to actual scum. If you happily approve of him, you're probably either a.) woefully uninformed, or b.) a racist, power hungry authoritarian asshole like Arpaio. Might want to work on that.

 

[MrPickins]

You mean the democrats backing civil rights after they fought them? After they were ready to split the country up and fight a war to keep black people as slaves? Those democrats?

I'm ready and willing to learn. Please link to a republican policy based on race. I have a couple dozen democrat ones ready to post.

Now you're just trolling...

 

[kage69]

I'm ready and willing to learn.

I really doubt that. If that were true, your username wouldn't be synonymous with vapid, idiotic posts.

Please link to a republican policy based on race. I have a couple dozen democrat ones ready to post.

Gerrymandering. Now go start a thread about your issues with history and ax to grind with dems. You may have noticed this thread is about Joe Arpaio. Do you do this in every thread you post in?

 

[rudeguy]

Now you're just trolling...

I'm ready and willing to learn. Please link to a republican policy based on race. I have a couple dozen democrat ones ready to post.

 

[rudeguy]

I really doubt that. If that were true, your username wouldn't be synonymous with vapid, idiotic posts.

Please link to a republican policy based on race. I have a couple dozen democrat ones ready to post.

Gerrymandering. Now go start a thread about your issues with history and ax to grind with dems. You may have noticed this thread is about Joe Arpaio. Do you do this in every thread you post in?[/QUOTE]

I wasn't the one who said that republicans were racist. If your democrat brothers don't like the argument, they shouldn't start it.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

You mean the democrats backing civil rights after they fought them? After they were ready to split the country up and fight a war to keep black people as slaves? Those democrats?

I'm ready and willing to learn. Please link to a republican policy based on race. I have a couple dozen democrat ones ready to post.

There is no point until you accept the fact that many Southern segregationists' changed from the Democratic party (which at the time was a very different party) to the Republican party over segregating Black people from White people. The ones who changed parties wanted to keep segregation. This is a historical fact its been written about and even talked about in the news from that time.

 

[Moonbeam]

I need more drugs to understand a thing you say. Can you log on LunarRay and try with your alter-ego?

No, you started the discussion with a request to 'please explain', pretending to yourself that you were open and capable of such a discussion. My job was simply to show you that you lie to yourself, that you are a fool because you desire to be, that that you will remain a fool so long as you hole the fantasy that you are open to real information. The facts, however, are that you are just a common house brick, a self congratulatory boob.

You are a waste of time and a waste of breath which is why LunarRay won't talk to you. He has better things to do with his time. I'm the one who won't turn his back of shit like you. We have a lot more in common so I'm more sympathetic.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm ready and willing to learn. Please link to a republican policy based on race. I have a couple dozen democrat ones ready to post.

How can you be ready and willing to learn when you already have a defense against an unknown response? What you are ready and willing to do is announce to the world you're an idiot. Learning for you will mean unlearning this imbecilic behavior.