Arizona to ban people from filming police within 8ft

[Perknose]

I actually do not find this an issue. And the way it was explained to me….

Do you really not see the way this will be immediately abused by the type of policeman who is doing something that should damn well be recorded? C'mon man.

 

[outriding]

Do you really not see the way this will be immediately abused by the type of policeman who is doing something that should damn well be recorded? C'mon man.

It is already abused with or without it.

it adds extra details about filming like the exceptions listed in the article and I feel it reinforces by repeating it.

 

[Vic]

This law was created because Darnella Frazier was within 8 feet of Derek Chauvin.

 

[Muse]

Wear a hoop with a radius of 8ft 1in.

Develop an app that records video if beyond 8 feet but pauses if within 8 feet. It could be spun off autofocus. In court, "it's a fact, look your honor, I had to be at least 8 feet away..."

Let me be clear, I think that AZ law would suck and that it is unreasonable and, to use a term that's been misappropriated by the rising tide of fascism, unconstitutional.

 

[K1052]

You know cops are going to run up on people recording who are outside that distance and arrest them using this intending to destroy evidence. Mysteriously their cop body cams will be off too.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

No way they're going to smash it. Conservative judges have a reliable history of ruling against individual freedom and privacy rights. If it does make it to SCOTUS it's going to be another 6-3.

Probably 5-4 when Roberts casts another meaningless vote, sort of the judicial equivalent to Romney's worthless impeachment vote.

 

[amenx]

There is a Mesa, Az, based youtuber called DirectD. He continually harasses cops and hurls expletives at them while filming them and invoking his 1st amendment rights. Seen him multiple times told by cops to back off to which he frequently challenges. I'll bet he was a major factor in this new ruling.

 

[darkswordsman17]

This law was created because Darnella Frazier was within 8 feet of Derek Chauvin.

The 8ft was aimed at women. The politician that initiated this explicitly said that he chose 8ft citing Supreme Court ruling about abortion protesters. He had originally gone with 15 feet but since that failed because it was a little to indefensible for their bullshit claims he decided to be a consummate modern Republican.

This is about an extra fuck you to women. Wanna bet police start sexually assaulting women a lot more now at protests and use laws like this to obscure it?

 

[sdifox]

Time to get one of these puppies

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Mount it on a car and slowly reverse as cop tries to get within eight feet.

 

[Perknose]

It is already abused with or without it.

it adds extra details about filming like the exceptions listed in the article and I feel it reinforces by repeating it.

For clarity, are you in favor of this new law or opposed to it?

 

[outriding]

For clarity, are you in favor of this new law or opposed to it?

For it


For clarification have you read the law in its entirety.

 

[HomerJS]

I actually do not find this an issue. And the way it was explained to me….

Since there are already non interference laws where the cop can demand you step back why do we need a law about recordings.

Why? So police can use the law to intimidate people not to record them. Prior posts have already given you examples.

 

[HomerJS]

For it


For clarification have you read the law in its entirety.

What do you think would have happened if Minnesota had this law when George Floyd was murdered? Police would have arrested everyone recording. The trial wouldn't have that evidence and Cauvin would have walked.

You cool with that?

 

[outriding]

What do you think would have happened if Minnesota had this law when George Floyd was murdered? Police would have arrested everyone recording. The trial wouldn't have that evidence and Cauvin would have walked.

You cool with that?

First of all. I just rewatched the Floyd video and from the camera angle it looks like it was over 8 feet away.

2nd the az also says a warning must be given first and also if the person does not comply it is a misdemeanor only.

But from the first point this law would have no impact to the recording and it would have been legal

But to be honest If a cop doesn’t want to be recorded he will use force with or without the law

 

[outriding]

Since there are already non interference laws where the cop can demand you step back why do we need a law about recordings.

Why? So police can use the law to intimidate people not to record them. Prior posts have already given you examples.

Why do we need a law about recording?


To help reinforce that recordings are legal. Too many cops ignore this and repetition (I am hoping) will force cops not to ignore this.


As as examples go. Where the bystanders under or over 8 feet.

Because I will assume you have read the law and will know if you are the one interacting with the cops the 8 foot space is an exception to the law along with other exceptions.

 

[HomerJS]

Why do we need a law about recording?


To help reinforce that recordings are legal. Too many cops ignore this and repetition (I am hoping) will force cops not to ignore this.


As as examples go. Where the bystanders under or over 8 feet.

Because I will assume you have read the law and will know if you are the one interacting with the cops the 8 foot space is an exception to the law along with other exceptions.

So you are saying that because police were stopping people from recording their interactions Arizona said, "let just put into a law making it illegal within 8 feet.

You are also saying police can be trusted not to use that 8 foot rule to prevent people from recording at all.


Just imagine having police be the judge of 8 feet. Take the Chauvin trial police all say person recording was within 8 feet and since it is illegal to record some slick lawyer gets that evidence thrown out.

This is just a way to stop the public from recording at all and the 8ft rule is a CYA for 1A.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Can't see that surviving the 9th circuit. Though Texas will do a copycat law that the 5th circuit will of course uphold for the confederacy.

 

[Amol S.]

It said filming, nothing about audio recording. So it is still legal to audio record police within 8 feet.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

It said filming, nothing about audio recording. So it is still legal to audio record police within 8 feet.

Except in the states with laws against surreptitious recording.

 

[Viper1j]

Their reasoning is bullshit because there are already laws against non interference. They are trying to stop people from recording but skirt around 1A by adding in 8 feet. In reality police will just order people not to film under threat of arrest. 8ft is tough to debate while police are choking someone to death. I predicted years ago Republicans will try to make recording police illegal. Over the last 10 years cell phone cameras have been black people's best friend. Without a recording Derrick Chauvin would have walked and he is the kind of cop who would have had everyone there arrested. Of course, Eric Garner has shown us recordings aren't a guarantee of civil rights, but Republicans just want to make it more dangerous for black people to exist.

Arizona to ban people from filming police within 8ft (msn.com)

"The new law prohibits anyone within 8ft of law enforcement from recording police activity. Violators will face a misdemeanor charge and up to 30 days in jail, though only after ignoring a verbal warning. "

There's the catch. They can't give you a "verbal warning" if they don't know that you're filming. My kid brother is a retired California Parole Administrator that works part-time now as a US Marshall. Mostly federal escorts. He was treated like a thug when he was pulled over by the Arizona Highway Patrol, until they found out who he was. I got him appear these for his protection, and for evidentiary purposes. I would wear mine with any possible interaction.

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