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HomerJS

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Their reasoning is bullshit because there are already laws against non interference. They are trying to stop people from recording but skirt around 1A by adding in 8 feet. In reality police will just order people not to film under threat of arrest. 8ft is tough to debate while police are choking someone to death. I predicted years ago Republicans will try to make recording police illegal. Over the last 10 years cell phone cameras have been black people's best friend. Without a recording Derrick Chauvin would have walked and he is the kind of cop who would have had everyone there arrested. Of course, Eric Garner has shown us recordings aren't a guarantee of civil rights, but Republicans just want to make it more dangerous for black people to exist.

Arizona to ban people from filming police within 8ft (msn.com)
 
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HomerJS said:
Their reasoning is bullshit because there are already laws against non interference. They are trying to stop people from recording but skirt around 1A by adding in 8 feet. In reality police will just order people not to film under threat of arrest. 8ft is tough to debate while police are choking someone to death. I predicted years ago Republicans will try to make recording police illegal. Over the last 10 years cell phone cameras have been black people's best friend. Without a recording Derrick Chauvin would have walked and he is the kind of cop who would have had everyone there arrested. Of course, Eric Garner has shown us recordings aren't a guarantee of civil rights, but Republicans just want to make it more dangerous for black people to exist.

Arizona to ban people from filming police within 8ft (msn.com)
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I'm 9 feet away.
Police officer tells me to stop filming.
I point out that I'm 9 feet away.
Officer steps 2 feet forward.
Tells me to stop filming and then 2 seconds later before I can hit the button states that because I'm 7ft away, will now be charged for interfering with an investigation and committing unlawful video recording of a law enforcement official.
I am then detained, handcuffed and arrested.

During the interaction, the officer smashes the screen on my $1100 phone. Trips me to the ground smashing my $300 Glasses while causing damage to my wrist and shoulder resulting in injuries that require 6 months of physical therapy where medical costs amount to about $3000. I have to hire a lawyer ($1500?) and I miss work due to initial arrest , court dates and time spent at the doctor.
 
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MomentsofSanity said:
1. No way this would stand... previously... now not so sure.

2. Yeah no way in hell THIS gets abused...
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Yep. Agree across the board. Absolutely no way this would stand under normal courts. With the calvinball going on at SCOTUS, eh?
 
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Pens1566 said:
Yep. Agree across the board. Absolutely no way this would stand under normal courts. With the calvinball going on at SCOTUS, eh?
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And yet all the Freedumb lovers will keep voting for the facists.
 
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I will say, at least there are exceptions for the person being questioned, etc. Which creates a big loophole, as soon as they turn on the person videoing, that person is now the subject and is allowed to record the interaction.

Regardless, good police don't fear cameras.
 
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pauldun170 said:
I'm 9 feet away.
Police officer tells me to stop filming.
I point out that I'm 9 feet away.
Officer steps 2 feet forward.
Tells me to stop filming and then 2 seconds later before I can hit the button states that because I'm 7ft away, will now be charged for interfering with an investigation and committing unlawful video recording of a law enforcement official.
I am then detained, handcuffed and arrested.

During the interaction, the officer smashes the screen on my $1100 phone. Trips me to the ground smashing my $300 Glasses while causing damage to my wrist and shoulder resulting in injuries that require 6 months of physical therapy where medical costs amount to about $3000. I have to hire a lawyer ($1500?) and I miss work due to initial arrest , court dates and time spent at the doctor.
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"Your fault for filming in the first place!"
 
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gothuevos said:
If DeSantis becomes President, expect lots of these kinds of national laws. He will utterly clamp down on any and all dissent.
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Well, just consider it 1950 and everyone is a black man.
THAT would be America under DeSantis.
And WTF, he's a Mexican, how did he ever get THAT past the right wingers, the anti immigrants, the WALL builders?
The first Mexican president, and they thought Hillary was bad news.
 
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I am hoping it gets smashed by the supreme court. But they've been supporting an ultra right wing agenda lately.
 
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shortylickens said:
I am hoping it gets smashed by the supreme court. But they've been supporting an ultra right wing agenda lately.
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No way they're going to smash it. Conservative judges have a reliable history of ruling against individual freedom and privacy rights. If it does make it to SCOTUS it's going to be another 6-3.
 
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pauldun170 said:
I'm 9 feet away.
Police officer tells me to stop filming.
I point out that I'm 9 feet away.
Officer steps 2 feet forward.
Tells me to stop filming and then 2 seconds later before I can hit the button states that because I'm 7ft away, will now be charged for interfering with an investigation and committing unlawful video recording of a law enforcement official.
I am then detained, handcuffed and arrested.

During the interaction, the officer smashes the screen on my $1100 phone. Trips me to the ground smashing my $300 Glasses while causing damage to my wrist and shoulder resulting in injuries that require 6 months of physical therapy where medical costs amount to about $3000. I have to hire a lawyer ($1500?) and I miss work due to initial arrest , court dates and time spent at the doctor.
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And if you are foolish enough to try to sue the officer for damages, your claims against the officer are all dismissed immediately based on Qualified Immunity.
 
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brycejones said:
Wear a hoop with a radius of 8ft 1in.
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Arrested for menacing, interfering with an investigation, assaults on a police officer when he reported that his hand was injured due to the hoop and takes 3 months leave for disability with a note from the "Doctor" everyone goes too. Report will descript hoop as a wheel and you will also be charged for license out of class.

When you appear in court, the judge will "cut you a break" and reduce the charges to improper lane change and public disturbance.
 
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fleshconsumed said:
No way they're going to smash it. Conservative judges have a reliable history of ruling against individual freedom and privacy rights. If it does make it to SCOTUS it's going to be another 6-3.
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There is nothing in the constitution that mentions iPhone 12 taking a video is a right so unless the iPhone has accepted Jesus Christ as it's lord and savior then no. Alito and Thomas are going to state that due to our deep traditions of banning video of police officers, that as far back as 1800 people did not take video of police officers so Court rules in favor of Arizona.
 
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pmv

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Does this apply to already-in-situ CCTV cameras? Will all such cameras be expected to turn themselves off as soon as a cop gets within 8 feet of them?
 
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pmv said:
Does this apply to already-in-situ CCTV cameras? Will all such cameras be expected to turn themselves off as soon as a cop gets within 8 feet of them?
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Using typical conservative logic, police-worn cameras will also have to auto-deactivate when within 8' of a cop...
 
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I think a lot of people are missing the point, and especially the timing of this.

They chose 8ft because they said the Supreme Court said 8 feet is enough buffer for protestors outside abortion clinics. Which, didn't they rule (prior to overturning Roe v Wade) that basically there should be no infringement of protesting outside of abortion clinics? This was explicitly pointedly about trying to rub in two things, that police are above the law, and women don't have equal rights.
 
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