Arguing 'FOR' SLI.

Rhin0

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Who is going to buy that? It is more novelty than SLI! At least SLI you can pick and change cards.
Maybe if that card was 2 x 6800GT, right now it is weak.
 

SonicIce

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Originally posted by: gamerj
ok, here we go....SLI already exists about 10 years...only reason Nvidia can brag about it is because they bought voodoo and with that the patent on "SLI" ... wow impressive...
Its pretty obvious that ati is leader now, especially when u compare the X800XT with that ridiculous 6800 card....(lol,, just kidding, great card)...but come on, 150 watts? twice the size? half the performance lol...
ati wins again...(ive never flamed before, how am i doing?)

:Q
 

gamerj

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whoops. wrong poste , should read link first haha....well bla,
deleted original post...made no sense whaha
Dont want to start anything not related to the subject oops.........(delete quote sonic ice? or did i just start something that i can no longer take back muhahahaha)
j/k, im just bored
 

DEredita

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With SLI your stuck with just nVidia cards right???

Also, it's extremely expensive, two 6600GT = 1 6800GT, it comsumes silly amounts of power, I think it can't run the 2 cards at 16x - it runs them at 8x?, also is it really that much faster for the money???

- Mike
 

Regs

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Be aware that is the single card SLI "solution" from Gigabyte.
 

Edward Lee

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Originally posted by: gamerj
whoops. wrong poste , should read link first haha....well bla,
deleted original post...made no sense whaha
Dont want to start anything not related to the subject oops.........(delete quote sonic ice? or did i just start something that i can no longer take back muhahahaha)
j/k, im just bored


haha that's ok. Great flame BTW. :thumbsup:
 

Edward Lee

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Here's my take on the whole scenerio....
SLI is a waste of resources. What was said is true, it is more of a novelty than anything else.
Dual core is another quick and cheap way for companies to increase graphic performance and recycle their old technology just like SLI. But it is more efficient in its use of resources (1 card instead of 2 cards and need for only 1 pci-e slot as opposed to 2) and has shown better bench marks.
For those of you who bought or considered buying SLI because you thought it was the "end all" for future upgrades think again. You may be improving your performance now, but ultimately you're buying a recycled repackaged product.
 

jvarszegi

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Originally posted by: Edward Lee
Here's my take on the whole scenerio....
SLI is a waste of resources. What was said is true, it is more of a novelty than anything else.
Dual core is another quick and cheap way for companies to increase graphic performance and recycle their old technology just like SLI. But it is more efficient in its use of resources (1 card instead of 2 cards) and has better bench marks.
For those of you who bought or considered buying SLI because you thought it was the "end all" for future upgrades think again. You're buying a recycled repackaged product.

Recycled and repackaged? Does that even mean anything in the current context? My brand-new SLI-capable motherboard is not repackaged.

You made a stunningly bad choice of card to support your argument, like I said. That card is an SLI card; it just doesn't take up two slots to enable SLI.

I can't chalk up your attitude to sour grapes, which leaves me really mystified. I mean, the premium for SLI (on top of already-expensive high end motherboard costs) is minimal, and dropping weekly.
 

Edward Lee

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I don't like grapes... Just to make my stand on this clearer, I'm indifferent to Dual Core Graphic Processors. (I actually think it's a neat idea) But I think SLI is stupid. SLI is like putting 4 wheels on a motorcycle and calling it a car.
 

Lonyo

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SLI still such with mid range cards whichever way you look at it.

There is no way you can say that dual 6600GT's is worthwhile.
And I will argue with anyone who wants to disagree, and prove myself right :p
 

beany323

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Hello, first timer here...

was thinking of getting a (newer) computer from cyberpower and saw sli...thought hmmm...did a search and found this site!! (nice btw) anyway, i was thinking ok that sounds ok..2 video cards..(i was considering what the heck might as well get 2 gt ultra's) but was reading and might have to reconsider... going to go with PCIe for sure...ati card..(not sure still) but just wanted to say thanks for the warning, you probably saved me at least a 1k....

thanks!
 

Regs

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Originally posted by: beany323
Hello, first timer here...

was thinking of getting a (newer) computer from cyberpower and saw sli...thought hmmm...did a search and found this site!! (nice btw) anyway, i was thinking ok that sounds ok..2 video cards..(i was considering what the heck to gt ultra's) but was reading and might have to reconsider... going to go with PCIe for sure...ati card..(not sure still) but just wanted to say thanks for the warning, you probably saved me at least a 1k....

thanks!

This is just the dual core sli solution. Dual 6800Ultras in SLI is a big difference. If you have the money, get it. Just make sure you get a nice 600watt Power Supply Unit with it.
 

frootbooter

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
SLI still such with mid range cards whichever way you look at it.

There is no way you can say that dual 6600GT's is worthwhile.
And I will argue with anyone who wants to disagree, and prove myself right :p

It's not worthwhile RIGHT NOW, but if you buy an SLI mobo now and a 6600gt, and then in a year and a half when your games don't run at 1280x960 at high settings anymore, you spend probably $100 on another 6600gt and hey! twice the performance.

The value of SLI, IMO, is in the upgrade paths it opens up, not in having two 6800gts to play today's games with.
 

beany323

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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: beany323
Hello, first timer here...

was thinking of getting a (newer) computer from cyberpower and saw sli...thought hmmm...did a search and found this site!! (nice btw) anyway, i was thinking ok that sounds ok..2 video cards..(i was considering what the heck to gt ultra's) but was reading and might have to reconsider... going to go with PCIe for sure...ati card..(not sure still) but just wanted to say thanks for the warning, you probably saved me at least a 1k....

thanks!

This is just the dual core sli solution. Dual 6800Ultras in SLI is a big difference. If you have the money, get it. Just make sure you get a nice 600watt Power Supply Unit with it.

Thanks!! i was hoping to go Raid 0 with 2 160 hd and try to find a nice 200+ storage hd. I will look around this site...lots of knowledge here!! thanks a whole bunches...

flames, what flames.... *lites match* :)
 

beany323

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hi again...getting closer..i think...(hehe)

going for a fx-55, 2 ultra's 2 hitachi 160 gb hds, (going to go raid 0) (till i learn more!)

500 watt power supply. corsair mem. (not the pro one, i think)

so far (from cyberpower) the difference between both is about 1k.

the other is a pci-e. Intel® Pentium® 4 560 CPU w/HT Technology 3.6GHz 800FSB 1MB Cache
same as above, with either a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 ULTRA 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD
or the ATI RADEON X800 XT 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD (thats still a toss up)

thinking about a tv tuner...(i would like to hook up a ps2,xbox to the system(not sure if that is possible))
so i can own my kids online....

i'll post more later.....but i do appreciate the help!!

laterz

edit: as to the topic (sorry) i am aware that ati is coming out with its own duel...whatchamacallit.
is Pci-e gonna last long, hopefully as long as agp... if nvida keeps making systems for high end game companies in mind then they would probably push sli. its a guess on either side. i just want a system that will last a lot longer then usual and that i can upgrade with little hassel.

sorry bout the hijack..... thanks!
 

magomago

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don't bother raid zero...total waste of time and little to negligble preformance increase. if SLI is a novelty, then RAID is....novelty^2 ;)

If you are going FX55, unless you plan on wanting extra overclock via the unlocked multiplier, you maybe better off purchasing a 4000+ as they are the SAME thing without the unlcoked multiplier. Also if you won't overclock, there is no need for extra "ultra ll black blue special edition EB Hyper Balistix with LCD lights to say it is working!" kind of memory ;) Good old value ram will run fine on stock...but it would be a sad thing to pair a FX55 with value ram ;)

And that FX55 will slaughter that P4. If you are into high end gaming right now, Its hard to go Intel instead. Even the Bastion of videoencoding is much much closer, and depends on the specific application you are using~
 

beany323

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Originally posted by: magomago
don't bother raid zero...total waste of time and little to negligble preformance increase. if SLI is a novelty, then RAID is....novelty^2 ;)

If you are going FX55, unless you plan on wanting extra overclock via the unlocked multiplier, you maybe better off purchasing a 4000+ as they are the SAME thing without the unlcoked multiplier. Also if you won't overclock, there is no need for extra "ultra ll black blue special edition EB Hyper Balistix with LCD lights to say it is working!" kind of memory ;) Good old value ram will run fine on stock...but it would be a sad thing to pair a FX55 with value ram ;)

And that FX55 will slaughter that P4. If you are into high end gaming right now, Its hard to go Intel instead. Even the Bastion of videoencoding is much much closer, and depends on the specific application you are using~


thanks!! damn good advise... i know enough to be dangerous!!

ok on the raid....probably use the second hd as a storage..(damn kids and their music files!!)
wasn't planning on over clocking (voiding the warrenty would sux) and i thought adding the better then stock ram would be better..(didnt chose the one with the lights, but it would be pretty!!!)

didnt quite get the your last paragraph, would you explain a little more...

(i really hate hijacking a thread, but until i get closer..i need more knowledge!!!)

thanks!!!! and thats the kind of info i like to hear, (both sides is better than blind knowledge!!!!)

:)
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: Edward Lee
I don't like grapes... Just to make my stand on this clearer, I'm indifferent to Dual Core Graphic Processors. (I actually think it's a neat idea) But I think SLI is stupid. SLI is like putting 4 wheels on a motorcycle and calling it a car.
You make the stupidest analogies I've EVER seen. It amazes me how you can keep coming up with dumber and dumber analogies. It's like your brain is made to do one thing, pump out stupidity. AMAZING!

 

Icepick

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Originally posted by: magomago
don't bother raid zero...total waste of time and little to negligble preformance increase. if SLI is a novelty, then RAID is....novelty^2 ;)

If you are going FX55, unless you plan on wanting extra overclock via the unlocked multiplier, you maybe better off purchasing a 4000+ as they are the SAME thing without the unlcoked multiplier. Also if you won't overclock, there is no need for extra "ultra ll black blue special edition EB Hyper Balistix with LCD lights to say it is working!" kind of memory ;) Good old value ram will run fine on stock...but it would be a sad thing to pair a FX55 with value ram ;)

And that FX55 will slaughter that P4. If you are into high end gaming right now, Its hard to go Intel instead. Even the Bastion of videoencoding is much much closer, and depends on the specific application you are using~

Not to split hairs or anything but, the FX55 is NOT the same as the 4000+. The 4000+ is equivalent to the FX53. The only difference between 4000+ and FX53 is that the FX series has unlocked multipliers.

The 4000+ is 2.4GHz with 1MB layer2 cache.
The FX55 is 2.6GHz with 1MB layer2 cache.
 

m3rcury

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Originally posted by: Edward Lee
Here's my take on the whole scenerio....
SLI is a waste of resources. What was said is true, it is more of a novelty than anything else.
Dual core is another quick and cheap way for companies to increase graphic performance and recycle their old technology just like SLI. But it is more efficient in its use of resources (1 card instead of 2 cards and need for only 1 pci-e slot as opposed to 2) and has shown better bench marks.
For those of you who bought or considered buying SLI because you thought it was the "end all" for future upgrades think again. You may be improving your performance now, but ultimately you're buying a recycled repackaged product.

You, I just looked at your 'Tsunami' box specs, and I'd absolutely love to know how you got your Athlon64 3000+ to run at 2Mhz =)


And about the SLI thing, I agree. I think its a fad, and directed only towards those who have more money than they know what to do with. But then again, to each man his own. Its your money, and you have full right to do what you feel like with it. I'll be just as happy with my GF4 Ti4200 as you'll be with your $500 video card.