Argosy 3.5? IDE TO RJ45 Network NAS ext. HD enclosure (HD-363N) $85.00 Shipped

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Smokin Gunn

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The Argosy HD-363N is a cost effective external network hard disk storage solution designed for the home or small office user. Connect the HD-363N external network hard disk case directly into your network through the CAT5 port located on the back of the unit. Share music, photos, movies and your data with everyone on the network simultaneously whether you are reading or writing data. Use as an FTP server, media storage server and backup critical data. Setup is simple and only takes few minutes to be up and running.
 
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Drive must be formatted w/FAT32 and has a max single file transfer size of 4GB because of this. Just FYI.
 
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Also, newegg has the Asus Wireless 2.5" HD enclosure for around the same price. Just in case anyone is looking for a wireless device. Of course the HD you put in it will likely have less storage and will be more expensive than a 3.5" drive, but if you've already got an extra 2.5" drive, it's a sweet deal. Also can worked wired or as an AP. Very cool device.
 
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I've never had a single file exceed 4GB unless it were a backup set.

And it just occured to me, 4GB is the max file size for FAT32. So, it is NOT a limitation of the case, but a limitation of the file system that the case is compatible with, possible firmware upgrade to support NTFS?
 
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Argosy home page for HD-363N

At the bottom, "Firmware Upgrade HTTP and TFTP"

How long is it gonna' take to get hot plugable Gigabit+ (copper Cat5E (or better), or glass fiber) as the industry standard for hard drives???

And, a separate, multi-drive NAS controller (Linux based?), like this, so ya' can just keep popping new drives on, as ya' need 'em?

From Argosy (Taipei, Taiwan) site:
External 3.5" HDD enclosure with Ethernet interface

Compatible with IDE HDD (ATA133) and 48-bit addressing

Share files over LAN as file server (SAMBA) and Internet as FTP server

Standalone operation, no PC required

Easy firmware download support, get the latest firmware here
Easy user interface over HTTP
Supports Static IP, DHCP client, or DHCP server

Supports internet time synchronization

Auto Ethernet cable type detection (straight or crossed)

Aluminum enclosure with internal cooling fan for continuous operation
Auto spin-down and wakeup to conserve power and extend life of operation
One year warranty

Model Number HD363N
Drive Support 3.5" IDE HDD, 48-bit LBA (400GB Max.)
5V/1A, 12V/1.5A (Max.)
File System FAT32 (max. 4GB file size)
Interface 10/100Base-TX Auto MDI/MDI-X RJ-45 Connector (Link and ACT LED)
LED Power and Access: Green Trouble: Red
Power Supply Universal 100~240V 0.8A 50/60Hz AC 12V/2.0A DC
Power Consumption 5W Max. (without HDD)
Dimensions (w x l x d) 2.4" x 4.8" x 7.8" 61 x 122 x 198 mm
Weight 20 oz. 550 g
Operating System Windows 98SE / ME / 2000 / XP
Mac OS X 10.2 and above
Configuration HTTP Base
Protocol SAMBA and FTP
Max. Sessions FTP: 6 SAMBA: 60
Firmware Upgrade HTTP and TFTP
 
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This looks just like the Tritton NAS enclosure i tested out at fry's. The ftp/smb server crashed often and required a restart which is a no-no as far as netwok storage is concerned.

Finally, make sure that your hard drive comes with a utility to set the spindown time, otherwise it will always be on.
 
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I think FAT32 doesn't have a size limitation, but has a strict number of clusters limitation. Therefore, the bigger the drive, the more space a 1-byte file uses, and the more space you waste.

I'd be interested in seeing the transfer rates out of that thing. My Tritton T-Nas barely ekes out one megabyte/second, slower than mapping a drive from a "real computer." It works, though, and it uses EXT3.
 
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vladgur

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its always going to be slower because the embedded cpu's in these things are weak, although on my triton-nas120 i get at least 2mbs
 
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Originally posted by: vladgur
This looks just like the Tritton NAS enclosure i tested out at fry's. The ftp/smb server crashed often and required a restart which is a no-no as far as netwok storage is concerned.

Finally, make sure that your hard drive comes with a utility to set the spindown time, otherwise it will always be on.
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man i read some deal board about pcmicrostore selling a refurb of this thing... that's when i looked and said this looks a heck of a lot like the tritton.

say, what drives Seagate? have spindown time settings?

Nice you were able to test out the Tritton. I've been watching buy.com for 3weeks since they sold out of it. They seem to have the best price, but this product sure doesn't sound reliable. Wonder why the 'big boys' like linksys and Netgear or Belkin and Hawking couldn't make this 'simple' device that can runs on cat5, and formats fat32, NTFS etc. wouldn't that be a killer hardware.
 
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Originally posted by: Odeen
I think FAT32 doesn't have a size limitation, but has a strict number of clusters limitation. Therefore, the bigger the drive, the more space a 1-byte file uses, and the more space you waste.

I'd be interested in seeing the transfer rates out of that thing. My Tritton T-Nas barely ekes out one megabyte/second, slower than mapping a drive from a "real computer." It works, though, and it uses EXT3.
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i lost you, what is ext3?
 
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EXT3 is a file system (like FAT32 and NTFS) that Linux uses.

I've got to re-test my T-NAS (note: mine doesn't look like this unit, it's a flat plastic gray box, the hard drive is horizontal). I remember arriving at a nice round number for transfer rate - maybe it was 100 megabytes/minute, instead of a megabyte/second (I don't like the MBS / MBPS designations because of the megabit/megabyte confusion)
 
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I try to distinguish between Bytes / bit by upper case / lower case of the b.

100 Mbps - Mega bits per second
30 MBps - Mega Bytes per second

Also, bit serial data rates, such as Ethernet / phone / Internet connections are typically in bits per second, reflecting the bit level nature of data transfer.

Byte data rates are more common for "parallel" interfaces, such as for Hard Drives - say IDE and SCSI interfaces.

Amusingly, to me, HD data *actually* comes on and off the drive as bit serial data, that gets re-packaged into multi-Byte parallel data transfers.

Even more "humorous", the newest, latest and greatest SATA (Serial ATA (vs PATA - Parallel ATA)) HD interface is back to serial, but, of course, at extremely high bit rates.

Back to the future!
 
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Originally posted by: nekote
As posted above:
Drive Support 3.5" IDE HDD, 48-bit LBA (400GB Max.)
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yes, but what i am wondering is as an external drive, will the size maximum be limited by the OS? for pre-XP sp1, that would be 120gb (or around 130gb).

 
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superflysocal, it's not an external hard drive. it's a network hard drive with its own firmware, so it's only limited by its own capabilities (which happen to be 400GB). you will be able to utilize 100% of that via the network regardless of how old your o/s is.
 
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FYI. Many others make NAS enclosures or interfaces for consumer drives. Linksys NSLU2 allows to hook up USB two USB drives. There are also products from D-Link, Buffalo (Linkstation), ASUS (Wireless). From my understanding most of them, still have some gotchas that limits universal appeal.

 
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