Argh! This god d@mn fscking administration

fatbaby

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I just found out that our school superintendant has just been granted a 15% raise. She's already making $150,000 a year and now they are upping that to $170,000...

That $20k can be used to restore our POS chemistry lab and purchase brand new text books (the programming ones are falling apart) but no...they need another raise.

And to make matters worse, they (the school board) approved that without the public having a voice in it, which is illegal around here. Why do we have an administration in the first place?
 

CurtCold

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Sounds like AR, there is a law persay, but if anyone follows it....now that's a good question.
 

Chadder007

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Sounds like the same thing that happens anywhere. CEO's, Management, Administration all screw up everything.
 

mflacy

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Write a letter to the local paper. News editors love to print controversial situations concerning education, especially about money.
 

yoda291

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I would check into what your super does tho. I used to feel that way about our university president when they have him a +100,000/yr raise. I thought, "is this what my tuition is going to?". Then I spoke with him and several people who work in the bursars office. It turned out, the president had brought in over $1.5 M in new endowments to the university over the course of the past year. About half that the year prior. I also found out later that bringing in endowments is pretty much all he does and as far as I'm concerned, all he needs to do.
 

Kadarin

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Relax, fatbaby, calm down, take a deep breath, and remember that you are the bukkake warrior, and you cannot be defeated..
 

fatbaby

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well you see, the thing is is that there have been massive budget cuts throughout the district.

The student body is also increasing in size, and we will have a classroom size crisis soon.

The incoming freshmen this year was about 800. Next year, the project numbers are around 1200. And the year after that, 1500.

 

ROTC1983

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Originally posted by: fatbaby
well you see, the thing is is that there have been massive budget cuts throughout the district.

The student body is also increasing in size, and we will have a classroom size crisis soon.

The incoming freshmen this year was about 800. Next year, the project numbers are around 1200. And the year after that, 1500.

Sounds like the high school I went too...all the money went to sports there though :disgust:
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: fatbaby
well you see, the thing is is that there have been massive budget cuts throughout the district.

The student body is also increasing in size, and we will have a classroom size crisis soon.

The incoming freshmen this year was about 800. Next year, the project numbers are around 1200. And the year after that, 1500.

My school board openly stole 40 million and distributed it among the board employees at the head office. I kid you not. The money has not been recovered and the super moved out of the country.
 

Scarpozzi

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I didn't understand how money worked in Universities until I started working for one. Picture a gymnasium with a bunch of buckets filling the floor. Each bucket has money in it. When the school has to buy something or pay someone's salary, the money may come from one or many buckets... It's hard telling where the money that pays upper administration comes from, but it's guaranteed that even if they didn't get paid that extra money, the chemistry lab you were talking about would never see a dime of THAT money anyhow. It sucks, but that's how it is.

I really wish someone would go in and change the system, but they'd have to change the way the US government functions because many state and non-profit organizations operate in the same fashion.
 

Ronstang

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The incoming freshmen this year was about 800. Next year, the project numbers are around 1200. And the year after that, 1500.

Then it sound to me like that $20K needs to be spent on condoms!!!!!
 

IGBT

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The whole thing is upside down. The highest paying job in education should be the most important. The teacher. Scholastic admin.are parasites and siphon off much needed money that should go to the teachers. Nearly all educational admin.work could be handled by temporary office staff. And free up the much needed money to better pay teachers and fund sorely needed math and science programs.
 

yoda291

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Originally posted by: IGBT
The whole thing is upside down. The highest paying job in education should be the most important. The teacher. Scholastic admin.are parasites and siphon off much needed money that should go to the teachers. Nearly all educational admin.work could be handled by temporary office staff. And free up the much needed money to better pay teachers and fund sorely needed math and science programs.

You assume all teachers are competent at their jobs. By paying them the most money, you make the position of teacher the most coveted, thereby making it attractive to those who would be very poor at the function. So on top of those teachers who aren't good at teaching, we'd have new teachers there, not for the benefit of the student, but for the benefit of themselves. When you think about it, if the most productive member of society is a good schoolteacher, isnt the most destructive member a bad one? I prefer this system, I think, where teachers have relative job security and get paid based on their qualifications. It is my experience that there is no profession that consists of individuals who are good at what they do. By turning the system upside down, you'd be rewarding more bad teachers and depriving good administrators who keep schools afloat.
 

HokieESM

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
I didn't understand how money worked in Universities until I started working for one. Picture a gymnasium with a bunch of buckets filling the floor. Each bucket has money in it. When the school has to buy something or pay someone's salary, the money may come from one or many buckets... It's hard telling where the money that pays upper administration comes from, but it's guaranteed that even if they didn't get paid that extra money, the chemistry lab you were talking about would never see a dime of THAT money anyhow. It sucks, but that's how it is.

I really wish someone would go in and change the system, but they'd have to change the way the US government functions because many state and non-profit organizations operate in the same fashion.

Scarpozzi is hitting on something here..... one should always remember that education is a BUSINESS. An ugly one, at that. While its usually "not for profit" as a whole, there are quite a few individuals that make quite a bit of money off of it. Unfortuately, those people are FREQUENTLY the ones in administration--and therefore control their own salary (think: CEO). Universities are even worse than public school systems in that they frequently aren't "audited" quite as closely. As I stated in the "MIT" thread (which I was blasted because some people didn't understand what I was trying to denote--and it wasn't about MIT): just remember, education is a business. There are great people working in every business, and some people who seek to profit off that business. Unfortunately, a lot of the "great people" in this circumstand are doing their job DESPITE the low pay and the bad conditions--while the profiteers are just making money.

Anyhow... I feel sorry for you. When I was in high school, a similar thing happened in Charlotte. Pay raises for the superintendent and his staff, while class sizes skyrocketed and we were forced to buy our own books for some advanced-level classes.
 

tm37

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Orginize and attend the next school board meating. DIscuss RECALL ELECETIONS with them.
 

Apathetic

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Double check the facts and if they are true contact the local newspaper, tv station, etc. Make a big stink about it.

Dave
 

fatbaby

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it appears that they had until january 9th to retract the pay raise since they violated the brown act or the teachers union will file a lawsuit

as of now, i have no idea about the status of this situation since finals are next week

 

Koing

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Just be glad that your not in a school in England then. We have it worse.........

Our sports facilities SUCK hard........

We just get on with what we have.......

I'm at Uni now so it doesn't matter.
 

Zebo

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Keeping up with the Jones'.


It's a trend going on everywhere nationwide to compare corporate executives saleries who have risen astronomically the past 15 years to thiers....Problem is goivernment does'nt make money and they are corp execs are way overpaid.