Argh! It's "would have" not "would of" and it's NOT "for all intensive purposes"

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Lifer
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another one...

"For God's sake"...not "for god sakes"

i hear that coming out wrong all the time. they do it wrong a lot on tv as well.
 

element

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Pea Sea Spell Checker


Eye halve a spelling checker
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marcs four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
Eye am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My checker tolled me sew.

 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: Broohaha
ARGH! When will people learn!?!?!?!

You don't say "I would of gone to the zoo" you say "I <STRONG><EM>would've </EM></STRONG>gone to the zoo"

You don't say "For all intensive purposes" you say "For all <STRONG><EM>intents and purposes</EM></STRONG>"

KAPISCH?!??!?

Erm, actually, it's CAPISH, an informal variant of CAPISCI. So, HA!
 

VBboy

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Its obvios yer not famili're wiht how menu stoopid peoples their're hear, who can'ts spell four sheet
 

Shockwave

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I figured most of this stuff was common knowledge.
I guess having my best friends mom, my Grandfather and HIS mom all be English teachers taught me proper English.
 

element

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Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
Originally posted by: Broohaha
ARGH! When will people learn!?!?!?!

You don't say "I would of gone to the zoo" you say "I <STRONG><EM>would've </EM></STRONG>gone to the zoo"

You don't say "For all intensive purposes" you say "For all <STRONG><EM>intents and purposes</EM></STRONG>"

KAPISCH?!??!?

Erm, actually, it's CAPISH, an informal variant of CAPISCI. So, HA!

Erm, sence it's not an english word I think we can forgive him for that. Well, that and annoy people further by mispelling since. hehe
 

VBboy

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
I figured most of this stuff was common knowledge.
I guess having my best friends mom, my Grandfather and HIS mom all be English teachers taught me proper English.

You mean "by having my best friend's mom..."
 

C'DaleRider

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
You don't say "For all intensive purposes" you say "For all intents and purposes"
I have said the former even though I've known the expression was in fact the latter for years. Some times things just roll out of your mouth that way.

But seriously, if you were in the car with some friends, and one of them used the word "ain't", would you start screaming and kicking like a neurotic child about "ain't" being an "improper" word? If you were in my car, I'd stop and toss you out on the side of the highway. Too bad we can't do that here.

The last I checked, a casual discussion forum was not meaningfully different from any venue for casual discussion. If we expected or intended to be considered for publication, or were interviewing for a visiting scholar fellowship at Oxford, that would be different.

There is really not much credibility to the idea which holds that a discussion forum where "ownz" and "lol!" are permissible is not a venue where the inattentive spelling and grammatical mistake is also permissible.

IOW, if you need to boost your low self-esteem, do it elsewhere.

Unfortunately, despite the protestations that this butchering of the language only happens during casula discussions, this view is remarkably naive. Just go look at what's being handed in in college classrooms as complete, finished, polished writing and you'll see these exact same errors over and over. What is remarkable is when these errors are marked and the grade is reduced for these errors, the kids scream bloody murder. "It's only writing," they yell. "You figured out what I meant," is another popular one.

Your point of kicking someone out of a car for using "ain't" is a slightly ridiculous and a spurious argument.

The salient point missed is that these lack of skills are beginning to turn up in papers written for business and on advertisements for products. Yesterday, a web site, in its descriptoin of a produce, misused THEN for THAN, and used the WOULD OF instead of the WOULD'VE contraction. Now, personally, if that's the level of attention paid to something that represents the company, then what level of attention does my order get? I move on to another company.

I shouldn't have to figure out what you meant when I read. Too many grammatcial and spelling errors just tires one to the point that the reader moves along. In business, that level of poor grammar and spelling will assure your promotions within the company will be slow. From talks given by "local" CEOs, Home Depot and Coca-Cola among the larger that have spoken at our univ., poor writing is very noticed.........maybe nothing ever is said, but it is noticed.

 

tcsenter

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Originally posted by: C'DaleRider

Unfortunately, despite the protestations that this butchering of the language only happens during casula discussions, this view is remarkably naive....

The salient point missed is that these lack of skills are beginning to turn up in papers written for business and on advertisements for products. Yesterday, a web site, in its descriptoin of a produce, misused THEN for THAN, and used the WOULD OF instead of the WOULD'VE contraction...

Too many grammatcial and spelling errors just tires one to the point that the reader moves along. In business, that level of poor grammar and spelling will assure your promotions within the company will be slow. From talks given by "local" CEOs, Home Depot and Coca-Cola among the larger that have spoken at our univ., poor writing is very noticed.........maybe nothing ever is said, but it is noticed.
Indeed it is! lol!
 

VBboy

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Put a couple of these on "you're" resume, and you're guaranteed to get the job :)
It is also recommended to use the word "box" instead of the word "computer", "hax0r" instead of "programmer", "kick-ass" instead of "advanced", and "proggy" instead of "software".
 

Alphazero

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Every now and then I try to masturbate a new word into my vocabulary, even if I'm not sure what it means :).
 

AznMaverick

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oh no, not another one of you again, always finding mistakes with people's writings...
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Originally posted by: Broohaha
ARGH! When will people learn!?!?!?!

You don't say "I would of gone to the zoo" you say "I <STRONG><EM>would've </EM></STRONG>gone to the zoo"

You don't say "For all intensive purposes" you say "For all <STRONG><EM>intents and purposes</EM></STRONG>"

<STRONG><EM>KAPISCH?!??!?</EM></STRONG>


Can we pin this to the top please?

<-- puts on flame suit

[thanks bruno]
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: VBboy
Originally posted by: Shockwave
I figured most of this stuff was common knowledge.
I guess having my best friends mom, my Grandfather and HIS mom all be English teachers taught me proper English.

You mean "by having my best friend's mom..."

*heh*
Perhaps. ;)

Need coffe and sleep. I really freakin hate working nights. :(
 

Lonyo

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In primary school (5-11 years, UK), people always used to say "I'm gonna tell the teacher on you", which was the usual way of saying it, and when people said "I'm going to tell the teacher of you" it seemed wrong, despite the latter actually being more correct (use of of rather than on), sometimes things just go the wrong way.
 

tcsenter

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Typos, I can understand. But when I see a person use 'definately' and 'would of', I immediately think, "there's someone that didn't pay a lot of attention in school, if at all he or she went to one" People make mistakes all the time but, the frequency with which some use the above corruptions makes it that much harder for people to correct themselves. It also implies that it is not just a slip-up - rather a habitual mistake made out of ignorance.
I know that 'finite' not 'finate' is the base word of 'definitely'; 'finite' meaning limit or boundary and 'de' being a prefix meaning to set or 'complete'. Definite literally means 'to set or complete the limit or boundary upon'. I never, to my knowledge, spell the word 'definite' as 'definate'.

Now that doesn't sound much like ignorance or lack of education, does it?

So why do I some times have a tendency to spell 'definitely' as 'definately'? I don't know.

If I were to type the word in a sentence or paragraph, then take the time to proof read for spelling, I would likely spot the mistake after the fact. Indeed, where ever 'definately' appears in a vacuum, that is to say by itself, I instantly spot the misspelling. I may be less inclined to notice when 'definately' is used in a sentence.

All ignorance? All deplorable education? I beg to differ.

First, I agree some people truly don't know the proper spelling of some word they're misspelling, but in many cases, not only is it not ignorance, its rather arrogant to presume it is. There actually are many known reasons which explain why a person might habitually misspell certain words though they are in fact not ignorant of the proper spelling.

The brain halves work rather dynamically when combined. The left brain thinks in terms of raw data, the right brain thinks in terms of complete images. Only when combined can complete and meaningful ideas and concepts flow from one's thought process, the spoken or written word.

The words "thank" and "you" mean nothing to the right brain, but the sentiment behind "thank you" does mean something to right brain. Conversely, the sentiment behind "thank you" means nothing to the left brain, while the words "thank" and "you", including the sequence of letters, are meaningful to the left brain.

There are a number of little 'quirks' that can happen between the transition from thought to the written word. Much of the long-term 'archived' information (i.e. that which you have "learned") in the brain is closely tied with an association. Some times, we have no control over that association. It just happens.

I have noticed that in some instances, an association that occurs when I write is phonetical, despite having not learned to read or write by any phonics method, per se. So in a 'stream of thought' or 'consciousness' session of writing, I tend to spell some words phonetically where I have some tight association with the phonetical nature of that word, in spite of knowing the proper spelling. We all, to some degree, learn to read and write phonetically. There is simply no rigid separation between the written and the spoken word as we learn the art of language and communication.

I will not go in depth on two other salient points, except to mention them in brief. One, the Brits have different spelling for various words, like "defence" and "colour". Since the Brits have more rightful claim to the English language than the butchery done to it by their American counterpart, one should be careful not to meet with closed-minded arrogance an encounter with perfectly permissible alternate spellings. Second, English may be the second or third language for many people. How many different languages do you write and speak as fluently as your first?

Perhaps if you read a few more books in the area of psychology or anthropology you wouldn't be such a condescending prick who is neurotic about spelling? Food for thought...

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have people who are obsessive about spelling and grammar. They are very valuable, when they're paid or asked to be.
 

Joemonkey

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well lemme just add my own pet peeve to this thread...

"a whole nother" gets on my nerves...
 

Broohaha

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a couple people brought up three really big ones......


you're vs. your

their vs. there

then vs. than.


as for kapisch vs. capiche or whatever. hehe, don't i have egg on my face? :p
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Originally posted by: C'DaleRider

Unfortunately, despite the protestations that this butchering of the language only happens during casula discussions, this view is remarkably naive....

The salient point missed is that these lack of skills are beginning to turn up in papers written for business and on advertisements for products. Yesterday, a web site, in its descriptoin of a produce, misused THEN for THAN, and used the WOULD OF instead of the WOULD'VE contraction...

Too many grammatcial and spelling errors just tires one to the point that the reader moves along. In business, that level of poor grammar and spelling will assure your promotions within the company will be slow. From talks given by "local" CEOs, Home Depot and Coca-Cola among the larger that have spoken at our univ., poor writing is very noticed.........maybe nothing ever is said, but it is noticed.
Indeed it is! lol!



and furthermore;

" the salient point missed is that these lack of skills are beginning to turn up in papers"





It should be "this" lack of skills.....Not "these" lack of skills. "this lack of skills IS beginning to turn up..."




;)