ARGH! 2 rent increases in less than 1 year!

pulse8

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They raised our rent $100 a month in April of this year and now they raised it again by $200 starting in February!

God I hate this building. If they weren't converting them to condos I probably would've moved out a while ago.
 

FoBoT

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rents are probably going up due to all the foreclosed bad mortgage people abandoning their houses and needing apartments again
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
rents are probably going up due to all the foreclosed bad mortgage people abandoning their houses and needing apartments again

Not to mention all those Apt. owners who sucked out equity using ARMs.

That's pretty crappy OP, time to find someplace else if you can IMO.
 

S Freud

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So your rent has gone up by $300 in the past year? Damn. I would start looking for another place if I was you and my landlords kept bending me over like that. How much did you pay at the start OP? What are you paying now?
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: yamadakun
you didn't sign a lease in April?

Most buildings in LA don't sign leases every year. Generally after the first month you go month-to-month. We've been month-to-month for over 6 years now.

Originally posted by: S Freud
So your rent has gone up by $300 in the past year? Damn. I would start looking for another place if I was you and my landlords kept bending me over like that. How much did you pay at the start OP? What are you paying now?

I want to look for another place, but the building is supposed to be converted into condos and once they give notice for that they have to pay us quite a hefty sum to move out. The not-so-bad part about it is that the new rent is more in line with the neighborhood, but that's for a new apartment. This is the first time they've done this. Usually they up the rent like $100 every couple of years. I think they are feeling the pinch of the conversion costs.

I moved into this place in 2000 and paid $1165 for this apartment. They just increased it to $1800 from $1600. Before April of this year we were paying $1500.

Thankfully, with some lucky career moves, I've managed to triple my salary over the last 4 years to keep up with this town.
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: yamadakun
you didn't sign a lease in April?

Most buildings in LA don't sign leases every year. Generally after the first month you go month-to-month. We've been month-to-month for over 6 years now.

Originally posted by: S Freud
So your rent has gone up by $300 in the past year? Damn. I would start looking for another place if I was you and my landlords kept bending me over like that. How much did you pay at the start OP? What are you paying now?

I want to look for another place, but the building is supposed to be converted into condos and once they give notice for that they have to pay us quite a hefty sum to move out. The not-so-bad part about it is that the new rent is more in line with the neighborhood, but that's for a new apartment. This is the first time they've done this. Usually they up the rent like $100 every couple of years. I think they are feeling the pinch of the conversion costs.

I moved into this place in 2000 and paid $1165 for this apartment. They just increased it to $1800 from $1600. Before April of this year we were paying $1500.

Thankfully, with some lucky career moves, I've managed to triple my salary over the last 4 years to keep up with this town.

Rather than pay you the money to move out, couldn't they just pressure you into doing so by raising the rent ridiculously high? :confused:
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: yamadakun
you didn't sign a lease in April?

Most buildings in LA don't sign leases every year. Generally after the first month you go month-to-month. We've been month-to-month for over 6 years now.

Originally posted by: S Freud
So your rent has gone up by $300 in the past year? Damn. I would start looking for another place if I was you and my landlords kept bending me over like that. How much did you pay at the start OP? What are you paying now?

I want to look for another place, but the building is supposed to be converted into condos and once they give notice for that they have to pay us quite a hefty sum to move out. The not-so-bad part about it is that the new rent is more in line with the neighborhood, but that's for a new apartment. This is the first time they've done this. Usually they up the rent like $100 every couple of years. I think they are feeling the pinch of the conversion costs.

I moved into this place in 2000 and paid $1165 for this apartment. They just increased it to $1800 from $1600. Before April of this year we were paying $1500.

Thankfully, with some lucky career moves, I've managed to triple my salary over the last 4 years to keep up with this town.

Rather than pay you the money to move out, couldn't they just pressure you into doing so by raising the rent ridiculously high? :confused:

We're looking into that. They are supposed to give us 180 days notice once they get approval for the conversion. My feeling is that they can raise the rent now, but not after they give the 180 days notice. Since my roommate's not so busy because of the strike he's going to do some research on that. They haven't given us the 180 day notice yet.
 

shopbruin

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my previous building wanted a new lease after our lease was up.

my current building hasn't said anything about a new lease, but gladly sent me a rent increase. i don't want to sign another lease right now because i'm not sure when we'll be moving out next summer.
 

altonb1

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Are any utilities included? With the rising gas/oil prices, many landlords are forced to increase rent to cover the utility costs.
 

Epic Fail

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: yamadakun
you didn't sign a lease in April?

Most buildings in LA don't sign leases every year. Generally after the first month you go month-to-month. We've been month-to-month for over 6 years now.

Originally posted by: S Freud
So your rent has gone up by $300 in the past year? Damn. I would start looking for another place if I was you and my landlords kept bending me over like that. How much did you pay at the start OP? What are you paying now?

I want to look for another place, but the building is supposed to be converted into condos and once they give notice for that they have to pay us quite a hefty sum to move out. The not-so-bad part about it is that the new rent is more in line with the neighborhood, but that's for a new apartment. This is the first time they've done this. Usually they up the rent like $100 every couple of years. I think they are feeling the pinch of the conversion costs.

I moved into this place in 2000 and paid $1165 for this apartment. They just increased it to $1800 from $1600. Before April of this year we were paying $1500.

Thankfully, with some lucky career moves, I've managed to triple my salary over the last 4 years to keep up with this town.

If there is no lease, why do they need to pay you to move out? The landlord can simply give you a notice and then start the eviction process.
 

gar3555

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wow...makes me thankful to live where I do, 2000 sq. ft. home w/ 3 bed 2 bath, 2 car garage, on a double lot. Full basement, unfinished. I have two sheds on my property, one will hold a boat, the other holds all my yard equipment. just under $1000 a month with all bills included.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: yamadakun
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: yamadakun
you didn't sign a lease in April?

Most buildings in LA don't sign leases every year. Generally after the first month you go month-to-month. We've been month-to-month for over 6 years now.

Originally posted by: S Freud
So your rent has gone up by $300 in the past year? Damn. I would start looking for another place if I was you and my landlords kept bending me over like that. How much did you pay at the start OP? What are you paying now?

I want to look for another place, but the building is supposed to be converted into condos and once they give notice for that they have to pay us quite a hefty sum to move out. The not-so-bad part about it is that the new rent is more in line with the neighborhood, but that's for a new apartment. This is the first time they've done this. Usually they up the rent like $100 every couple of years. I think they are feeling the pinch of the conversion costs.

I moved into this place in 2000 and paid $1165 for this apartment. They just increased it to $1800 from $1600. Before April of this year we were paying $1500.

Thankfully, with some lucky career moves, I've managed to triple my salary over the last 4 years to keep up with this town.

If there is no lease, why do they need to pay you to move out? The landlord can simply give you a notice and then start the eviction process.

Because it's the law. You can't evict someone for just any reason without issue. If we are being forced out of the building they have to pay to relocate us.

Anyway, my sister talked to her father-in-law (it's nice to have a lawyer in the family) and he wants to hear more, but thinks this could fall under constructive eviction which is illegal. I think we're going to start off with a strongly worded letter to the landlord.

Also, this is just the tip of the iceberg. They've been doing some shady stuff lately which has built up to this.

There are also no utilities other than water included in our rent.
 

aceO07

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: yamadakun
If there is no lease, why do they need to pay you to move out? The landlord can simply give you a notice and then start the eviction process.

Because it's the law. You can't evict someone for just any reason without issue. If we are being forced out of the building they have to pay to relocate us.

Anyway, my sister talked to her father-in-law (it's nice to have a lawyer in the family) and he wants to hear more, but thinks this could fall under constructive eviction which is illegal. I think we're going to start off with a strongly worded letter to the landlord.

Also, this is just the tip of the iceberg. They've been doing some shady stuff lately which has built up to this.

There are also no utilities other than water included in our rent.

There's a law that says you can rent a place forever? Is that what you're essentially saying?

I'm pretty sure your landlord can just give you a full month or 2 notice and say that the apartment isn't for rent anymore. This is very possible since you don't have a year lease.

Evicting you and giving you a few days notice, that I agree isn't really legal. The proper paperwork would take weeks..
 

Epic Fail

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: yamadakun
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: yamadakun
you didn't sign a lease in April?

Most buildings in LA don't sign leases every year. Generally after the first month you go month-to-month. We've been month-to-month for over 6 years now.

Originally posted by: S Freud
So your rent has gone up by $300 in the past year? Damn. I would start looking for another place if I was you and my landlords kept bending me over like that. How much did you pay at the start OP? What are you paying now?

I want to look for another place, but the building is supposed to be converted into condos and once they give notice for that they have to pay us quite a hefty sum to move out. The not-so-bad part about it is that the new rent is more in line with the neighborhood, but that's for a new apartment. This is the first time they've done this. Usually they up the rent like $100 every couple of years. I think they are feeling the pinch of the conversion costs.

I moved into this place in 2000 and paid $1165 for this apartment. They just increased it to $1800 from $1600. Before April of this year we were paying $1500.

Thankfully, with some lucky career moves, I've managed to triple my salary over the last 4 years to keep up with this town.

If there is no lease, why do they need to pay you to move out? The landlord can simply give you a notice and then start the eviction process.

Because it's the law. You can't evict someone for just any reason without issue. If we are being forced out of the building they have to pay to relocate us.

Anyway, my sister talked to her father-in-law (it's nice to have a lawyer in the family) and he wants to hear more, but thinks this could fall under constructive eviction which is illegal. I think we're going to start off with a strongly worded letter to the landlord.

Also, this is just the tip of the iceberg. They've been doing some shady stuff lately which has built up to this.

There are also no utilities other than water included in our rent.

http://expressevictions.com/evicting-a-tenant.php
http://www.ci.sf.ca.us/site/rentboard_page.asp?id=36672

You might want to rethink about your situation. You can start the eviction process for whatever reason if you are not in a lease after giving them a notice. 30 days in your case, it was 60 days before 2006.

Feel free to correct me if I am missing something here.
 

Sureshot324

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Are there no laws that limit how much you can increase the rent? Here in Canada you can only legally increase it a few percent a year.
 

Epic Fail

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Originally posted by: Sureshot324
Are there no laws that limit how much you can increase the rent? Here in Canada you can only legally increase it a few percent a year.

Essentially if you are not in rent regulated housing or do not have a lease.
 

RaistlinZ

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OP, why even go through all this trouble? Why not just move to a better apartment for the same that you're paying now? If the landlords are just going to jack up rents all the time, why stay there?
 

911paramedic

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What part of "month to month" has you confused? It means either party can give the other party 30 days notice.

They would be terminating your lease, not evicting you, which are two different things.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: yamadakun
http://expressevictions.com/evicting-a-tenant.php
http://www.ci.sf.ca.us/site/rentboard_page.asp?id=36672

You might want to rethink about your situation. You can start the eviction process for whatever reason if you are not in a lease after giving them a notice. 30 days in your case, it was 60 days before 2006.

Feel free to correct me if I am missing something here.

Yes you are missing something here. :) Believe me, we've researched this.

http://www.caltenantlaw.com/LARSO.htm

Evictions for Condo Conversion require relocation assistance, even if rent control doesn't apply

It doesn't matter what kind of lease you have, month-to-month or otherwise, in Los Angeles you cannot kick someone out of their apartment for just any reason.

Here are the 11 reasons you can evict for: http://www.tenant.net/Other_Ar...lif/losangel/evic.html

Condo conversions are also a separate situation where they cannot just kick you out to convert the building to condos. They have to pay to relocate you and as of this year the fee is $9,000.

Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
OP, why even go through all this trouble? Why not just move to a better apartment for the same that you're paying now? If the landlords are just going to jack up rents all the time, why stay there?

Well, this is the first time they've done something like this and we don't have to pay the new rent until February so we have some time to figure things out.
 

aceO07

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pulse8, is your lawyer friend aware that you're month to month? Also, a landlord telling you that the place isn't available for rent again in a month or 2 (or lease ends) in advance isn't 'eviction'. I'm pretty sure the law you're quoting is in regards to landlords breaking leases to set up for condos.
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: Sureshot324
Are there no laws that limit how much you can increase the rent? Here in Canada you can only legally increase it a few percent a year.

Rent controls vary from Province to Province in Canada. Here in Alberta your rent can be raised considerably, but just once per year. Most people who lived in apartments that were to be converted to condo's got rent increases 50% or more to force people to leave.... and they left. They don't have to pay people to get them to leave... they just bump up their rent to very high levels and that's it.

 

Kev

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Originally posted by: gar3555
wow...makes me thankful to live where I do, 2000 sq. ft. home w/ 3 bed 2 bath, 2 car garage, on a double lot. Full basement, unfinished. I have two sheds on my property, one will hold a boat, the other holds all my yard equipment. just under $1000 a month with all bills included.

where is this? east bumblefuck, kansas?