yeah there are no perfect boards no matter what chipset you run. i was stuck personally between the shuttle ak31 and the epox 8kha+...i read about how great they are and i also read about the problems. i kept thinking i wanted one, then the other, then back to the first choice. i ended up picking up a 8kha+ with a u= bios chip from a computer show. at first i had problems that i thought were motherboard related. but it ended up just being bad ram i got. if you want to read more about them you can check out the amdmb/epox forums and check out what's going on with their boards. most will agree that it's the users that create the problems with the board and not the manufacturers. (even though sometimes it is)
<< The Epox 8KHA+ is as close as there is to a perfect implementation. >>
My vote goes for the Epox board, mainly because I just want to overclock at a reasonable price. Mine is rock solid so far.
Well guys, thanks for all the advices and suggestions 
. I've decided to get the Epox 8KHA+ since the reboot and stability issues can be fixed with a BIOS update. I'm so glad that Epox has a very good service , unlike MSI :|:|:|
I will tell you how it going to be. Wish me luck
. I've decided to get the Epox 8KHA+ since the reboot and stability issues can be fixed with a BIOS update. I'm so glad that Epox has a very good service , unlike MSI :|:|:|I will tell you how it going to be. Wish me luck
After all of the AK31 r3.1's i've installed, I stand behind EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
GO SHUTTLE!
GO SHUTTLE!
Okay, I bought the Epox 8KHA+ yesterday, installed it this morning, update the 11/02/01 BIOS to the latest from Epox Japan and fired it up. This board rocks. Stable and fast. Well I started to believe that you don't have to buy Asus board to get the stability you want since there is a good company which produces quality board at a lower price, EPOX
just want to thank you guys for all the suggestions and advices which helped me a lot for my decision making
just want to thank you guys for all the suggestions and advices which helped me a lot for my decision making
Just like pabster I say no...Not cause I own a sis board because I am answering the f^cking question asked... "Aren't there any perfect KT266A motherboard ?"...PLAIN and SIMPLE...
Now on to the question that wasn't asked..Are there any perfect sis boards...NO, but not cause of sis735 chipset issues, but because ecs like most mobo maker have qc problems..They can about muck up anything once they touch it...
However as long as via has constant bugs they address in via 4 in1's, the sblive issue (that hasn't been solved for all), the new ide and pci latency issue, etc you wont get stability in any via platform aside from it being kt266a...
NOw if you want to bash sis735 list evidence it is a chipset issue before you speak...Via's issues are well documented by many credible testing sites and tested on all the boards across the platform so it is definitely a chipset issue...
< The Epox 8KHA+ is as close as there is to a perfect implementation. >
This must of been the first board he was successfully able to install to, and eventhough this is likely the only board of this model he has touched he has now crowned it the golden board...LOL Azgamer
Now on to the question that wasn't asked..Are there any perfect sis boards...NO, but not cause of sis735 chipset issues, but because ecs like most mobo maker have qc problems..They can about muck up anything once they touch it...
However as long as via has constant bugs they address in via 4 in1's, the sblive issue (that hasn't been solved for all), the new ide and pci latency issue, etc you wont get stability in any via platform aside from it being kt266a...
NOw if you want to bash sis735 list evidence it is a chipset issue before you speak...Via's issues are well documented by many credible testing sites and tested on all the boards across the platform so it is definitely a chipset issue...
< The Epox 8KHA+ is as close as there is to a perfect implementation. >
This must of been the first board he was successfully able to install to, and eventhough this is likely the only board of this model he has touched he has now crowned it the golden board...LOL Azgamer
I've brougth SOYOs, EPOX, QDI, MSIs, BIOSTAR, and had a number of repairs on PCCHIPS, ESC, and CHAINTECH.
My K6-2 with SOYO 5EHM worked good, some selfbooting sometimes, every 3 hours but nothing else. I change it for a Epox 7KXA and Athlon slot A, after changing memorys for quality brand, and deleting a coupple of files form MSBACKUP on Win98SE, that cause reboot and a green line after loading desktop (see "Green Line Issue" on EPOX FAQ), the mobo workwed fine, but of course, the overclocking abilities were poor.
Then I buy my first ASUS mobo, the A7V, very nice board, diferent design, it was obious that this one was not a copycat of the VIA general Prototipe Board, and worked really good. Now I have an A7V133.
I sow working the SOYO Dragon + and the A7V266-E, and the ASUS worth the extra pounds. In the SOYO I was unable to overclock an Athlon 1200, just to put it at 1333Mhz, (10 mulltiplier x 133Mhz bus), after setting those values en BIOS, the Dragon doasen't boot anymore, and I was forced to reset the BIOS with the jumper. This mobo don't boot again in default settings after you reset it form a falilure overclock, as the ASUS A7V133 and the new A7V266-E.
Of course, a wanted to change my A7V133 for the 266-E, and couldn't do it for the price, but I'm saving and some day I will, the diferent in performance betwen the 133 and the 266-E were at least a 35%.
So for my personal experiencie there are only 2 brands in mobos, Intel and ASUS, and since you can't put an Athlon on a Intel board, there's not much of a choice...
My K6-2 with SOYO 5EHM worked good, some selfbooting sometimes, every 3 hours but nothing else. I change it for a Epox 7KXA and Athlon slot A, after changing memorys for quality brand, and deleting a coupple of files form MSBACKUP on Win98SE, that cause reboot and a green line after loading desktop (see "Green Line Issue" on EPOX FAQ), the mobo workwed fine, but of course, the overclocking abilities were poor.
Then I buy my first ASUS mobo, the A7V, very nice board, diferent design, it was obious that this one was not a copycat of the VIA general Prototipe Board, and worked really good. Now I have an A7V133.
I sow working the SOYO Dragon + and the A7V266-E, and the ASUS worth the extra pounds. In the SOYO I was unable to overclock an Athlon 1200, just to put it at 1333Mhz, (10 mulltiplier x 133Mhz bus), after setting those values en BIOS, the Dragon doasen't boot anymore, and I was forced to reset the BIOS with the jumper. This mobo don't boot again in default settings after you reset it form a falilure overclock, as the ASUS A7V133 and the new A7V266-E.
Of course, a wanted to change my A7V133 for the 266-E, and couldn't do it for the price, but I'm saving and some day I will, the diferent in performance betwen the 133 and the 266-E were at least a 35%.
So for my personal experiencie there are only 2 brands in mobos, Intel and ASUS, and since you can't put an Athlon on a Intel board, there's not much of a choice...
I worry as I have ordered the MSI K7T266 PRO2 motherboard bundle with Athlon XP 1500+....but now I read where a few folks have had problems.... yet, every time I read a post extolling the virtues of a certain motherboard, and placed that as my top choice, i'd do some more browsing and, sure enough, someone would have a concern about the board.
Is it best not to worry about what motherboard you order?
Is it best not to worry about what motherboard you order?
There aren't any perfect KT266A motherbaords, at least not from the amount of threads with problems from a plethora of manufacteres (Asus, Epox, Iwill, Abit, etc, you name it). *sigh* my ECS K7S5A is starting to drive me up the wall. Damn i want my 440bx board and my P3 back
Okay.
My Epox 8KHA+ is one WEEK old Everything is running fine and stable.
Performance is good, stability is good and if it passed one more week of 24 hrs burn-up test..I can say that Epox makes fast, stable and good quality board
My Epox 8KHA+ is one WEEK old
Everything is running fine and stable. Performance is good, stability is good and if it passed one more week of 24 hrs burn-up test..I can say that Epox makes fast, stable and good quality board
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