Aren't movie gross incomes misleading?

JuanTabonia

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You always see stupid (IMO) figures in the news like "The Matrix Reloaded grossed $89.9 Million in the first weekend". Ticket prices are always increasing, so of course gross figures will be higher year after year.

I think a more fair, comparable number is # of ticket sales. Why does Hollywood quote $$ instead?
 

Toasthead

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because it all about the money.

there are more people in the world now too, so would ticket sales be misleading too?

 

TallBill

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Yeah, they dont care how many people actually see or like their movies. They just want money.
 

JuanTabonia

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I figured that greedy Hollywood just wants money.

I don't really care how much a movie made over the weekend. But I don't like it when the news articles say that a new movie grossed $xxx M, which beat out the last highest record from 1995 or something b/c you can't compare it.

Then again, since movies get more expensive to make, they might not be making as much money as older movies. Eh, who cares.
 

Syringer

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a) More expensive tickets = less people
b) P2P programs make it easier to bootleg movies
 

Noirish

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Haven't you learnt?
The only thing that really matters in this world is money, sad but true.

However, it's going to be a while before someone knocked off that ridiculous figure of Titanic, that movie makes me sick.
 

dullard

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I've always been bothered by records like that. But that is just the way things go - you need to analyze the data before you put much stock in it.

Take simple economic data for example. Suppose the GDP grows 1% in a year. Did the economy improve? Well if population grew by 2% then no - per capita everyone is worse off. But if the population stayed the same then yes -per capita everyone is better off. You cannot just look at the original number and make a conclusion.

As nutrition gets better and athletes get taller/stronger world records will keep getting broken. So does that mean these new athletes are better than those 100 years ago? Interesting if you really think about it.

A sport changes its rules and that makes scoring easier. Then someone hits a record number of homeruns / touchdowns / goals in a year. Does that make that player the best ever?
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: JuanTabonia
You always see stupid (IMO) figures in the news like "The Matrix Reloaded grossed $89.9 Million in the first weekend". Ticket prices are always increasing, so of course gross figures will be higher year after year.

I think a more fair, comparable number is # of ticket sales. Why does Hollywood quote $$ instead?

Because it's all about money??
 

sciencetoy

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It's all about the publicity. Those movie gross figures have ABSOLUTELY NO connection to reality. It's all fantasy. I worked in a theater for many years that was the largest grossing (in real cash dollars) in the world-wide chain, and the honchos used to hang out there. They sat there making up crazy numbers to feed to the press.

Reported gross equals roughly: the largest number they can think of at the moment, minus an amount that varies depending on how large a cut of the gross the star has, plus or minus whether they need a big hit or a big loss for their accounting and legal expenses.

My theater had 580 seats. At 5 shows a day, 7 days a week, 8. a ticket (you do the math) that was a possible gross of $200,400. I often read that we took in over a million dollars in an opening holiday week. Oh, sure. All of those people bought 5 tickets each. Don't you?
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: sciencetoy
It's all about the publicity. Those movie gross figures have ABSOLUTELY NO connection to reality. It's all fantasy. I worked in a theater for many years that was the largest grossing (in real cash dollars) in the world-wide chain, and the honchos used to hang out there. They sat there making up crazy numbers to feed to the press.

Reported gross equals roughly: the largest number they can think of at the moment, minus an amount that varies depending on how large a cut of the gross the star has, plus or minus whether they need a big hit or a big loss for their accounting and legal expenses.

My theater had 580 seats. At 5 shows a day, 7 days a week, 8. a ticket (you do the math) that was a possible gross of $200,400. I often read that we took in over a million dollars in an opening holiday week. Oh, sure. All of those people bought 5 tickets each. Don't you?

Just because you don't know the exact mathematically process doesn't mean it has 'ABSOLUTELY NO connection to reality'. It's called probability statistics. And it's quite accurate.
 

ElFenix

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and you can get matinee tickets and regular tickets and student tickets and senior tickets so really theres different prices for tickets in the same week!
 

sciencetoy

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Just because you don't know the exact mathematically process doesn't mean it has 'ABSOLUTELY NO connection to reality'. It's called probability statistics. And it's quite accurate.

I stand corrected - thank you.

 

MrBond

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I paid the same to see spiderman as I did the matrix reloaded (well, not really, caught a matinee of spiderman, but evening show was still $8.75)

I'm officially hijacking this thread :)

Anyone else's theator use strange pricing schedules? I went to see Die Another Day with my dad, on a wednesday night, it was $8.75. Saw 8 mile, the friday it came out, $9.00. Saw Identity two weeks after release, $9.25 on a saturday. Saw Matrix Reloaded Wednesday at 10:00 (bought tickets online), $8.75
 

sohdahere

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they dont care,
they get money
and by showing off they hope to get even more money
by getting ppl to go watch it since 'everyone else is'.