Are you ready for American Extremists?

[bfdd]

You think lawyers are part of the judicial branch of government? I don't even know where to start with that one...

No, they're the legislative part and they've been fucking with language for so long they don't even understand half the shit they write. Wreckem, counter it then.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Yet the Supreme Court has upheld that spending money is speech. If spending money is speech, then

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence[note 1] and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States

Infringes on the 1st. Why? Because money is speech and congress may forge no law abridging it. Derp a der. Unless you can explain to me how taxation doesn't infringe on my freedom of speech(freedom to spend money how I choose)?

*note I grabbed the text off wikipedia because it was the quickest way to google it. if you would prefer I go and grab it from a government site. well sure give me a little bit and I will.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Infringes on the 1st. Why? Because money is speech and congress may forge no law abridging it. Derp a der. Unless you can explain to me how taxation doesn't infringe on my freedom of speech(freedom to spend money how I choose)?

Well, Congress can make laws with regard to speech. The Supreme Court has already said so.

 

[monovillage]

Which part of the constitution would the FAA violate? And assuming it violates that part of the constitution, how would the federal government mandating air traffic regulations to the states not violate the same part of it?

What part of the Constitution does the FAA violate? You should ask: What part of the Constitution allows the FAA? I can see where the commerce clause can be used by the Feds to send out regulations to the States, but where does it authorize a monster bureaucracy like the FAA?

 

[modestninja]

No, they're the legislative part and they've been fucking with language for so long they don't even understand half the shit they write. Wreckem, counter it then.



Yet the Supreme Court has upheld that spending money is speech. If spending money is speech, then

Infringes on the 1st. Why? Because money is speech and congress may forge no law abridging it. Derp a der. Unless you can explain to me how taxation doesn't infringe on my freedom of speech(freedom to spend money how I choose)?

Don't get me wrong, I agree that Citizen's United was a terrible ruling. It doesn't make much sense (I'm not a constitutional lawyer so I won't comment on whether it was right or not) and seems to pose some logical issues not to mention is harmful to the democratic process and the country.

 

[spittledip]

Anyone that uses force against another because they don't believe in the Govts powers to tax or regulate are extremists. And this is why there are Special Agents in the IRS Criminal Division.

I don't disagree with what you are saying. However, the author of the article makes a link between this-

The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

-and and violent extremist behavior in such a way that seems to indicate that anyone who holds those beliefs are extremists. The author of the article does not try to make a distinction between people who hold the beliefs quoted above and extremists. It is hopefully just bad journalism. Hopefully it is not manipulative journalism or even worse, the true representation of what the FBI news conference was about.

 

[monovillage]

Anyone that uses force against another because they don't believe in the Govts powers to tax or regulate are extremists. And this is why there are Special Agents in the IRS Criminal Division.

Agreed, just like those damn Occupy extremists who need to be jailed and the key thrown away.

 

[bfdd]

Wreckem I do not disagree with you about the violence. The thing is, the majority of people who have issues have no intent to get violent. I don't intend to be violent, nor do I have a history of violence or even a criminal record. I just don't support the Federal Government any longer and I fail to see how that makes me an extremist.

This goes two ways though. Will they not get violent with me? Odds are they will get violent because violence and punishment is how the Federal Government stays in control.