are you looking forward to 4 cores?

her34

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with the next upgrade in cpu's being 4 cores, do you have as much excitement towards 4 cores as you did in the jump to 2 cores?
 

Furen

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Not as excited as going onto two cores soon but it's pretty cool in an I-can-run-everything-at-the-same-time kind of way.
 

MBrown

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I dont think quad core is going to be needed. Its just going to cost even more. Mabey servers can use them or somebody who does video encoding but for people who just do regular mutitasking should only need a dual core.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: MBrown
I dont think quad core is going to be needed. Its just going to cost even more. Mabey servers can use them or somebody who does video encoding but for people who just do regular mutitasking should only need a dual core.

People keep neglecting the fact that your everyday apps and games will be multi-threaded. There will be huge performance gains when this happens. It isn't all about multi-tasking.

-Kevin
 

Duvie

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quad cores wont be economical until 65nm process arrives, when I believed the quad cores are to be arriving...cost will not be a factor from the manufacturing end so it will be priced based upon perceived performance....

I can tell you as a non gamer who uses apps that can take advanatge of as many cores as I can get I will be waiting for them....
 

MBrown

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But there isnt going to be any multithreaded web browsers or multithreaded word processors. The only thing that I would use that is multithreaded would be future games. I think that future games are only going to be making use of two cores.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: MBrown
But there isnt going to be any multithreaded web browsers or multithreaded word processors. The only thing that I would use that is multithreaded would be future games. I think that future games are only going to be making use of two cores.

A 486 can run a word processor. Why would they need to even consider making web-browsers, or word processors multi-threaded.

Additionally, MULTI-threaded not DUAL threaded. Future games will take as many cores as we throw at them. Think about it. Why would they create huge multi-core solutions if we were only going to give a specific app 2 threads. You can only multi-task so much.

-Kevin
 

Duvie

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I would say run 4 instances of folding at home non stop.....Then when needed my CAD application makes a decent use of 4 cores...otherwise I belive most encoding apps will use just 2 cores effectively so encode at full speed and still get 2 instance donw of F@H......

If the ocst is reasonable where it is cheaper to get a quad core then 2 sepaate boxes then I will jump on it....
 

MBrown

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: MBrown
But there isnt going to be any multithreaded web browsers or multithreaded word processors. The only thing that I would use that is multithreaded would be future games. I think that future games are only going to be making use of two cores.

A 486 can run a word processor. Why would they need to even consider making web-browsers, or word processors multi-threaded.

Additionally, MULTI-threaded not DUAL threaded. Future games will take as many cores as we throw at them. Think about it. Why would they create huge multi-core solutions if we were only going to give a specific app 2 threads. You can only multi-task so much.

-Kevin

You said everyday apps...
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: MBrown
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: MBrown
But there isnt going to be any multithreaded web browsers or multithreaded word processors. The only thing that I would use that is multithreaded would be future games. I think that future games are only going to be making use of two cores.

A 486 can run a word processor. Why would they need to even consider making web-browsers, or word processors multi-threaded.

Additionally, MULTI-threaded not DUAL threaded. Future games will take as many cores as we throw at them. Think about it. Why would they create huge multi-core solutions if we were only going to give a specific app 2 threads. You can only multi-task so much.

-Kevin

You said everyday apps...

Use some common sense!
 

biostud

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Originally posted by: Duvie
quad cores wont be economical until 65nm process arrives, when I believed the quad cores are to be arriving...cost will not be a factor from the manufacturing end so it will be priced based upon perceived performance....

I can tell you as a non gamer who uses apps that can take advanatge of as many cores as I can get I will be waiting for them....

a fellow solitaire player I see :thumbsup:
 

Pabster

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Of course. The more the merrier :D

Hmmm, quad 3+ GHz cores on 45nm with integrated PCI-E on die controller ...

</dream>
 

Vee

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I think the best reason to be excited about 2 cores is because it will mean that software will start to be increasingly written to handle heavy workloads in multiple threads.

Once that happens and becomes a reality...

So me personally, for instance, I'm only excited by 2 cores because it means 4, 8, 16... will eventually follow.
 

Rock Hydra

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Of course. The more the merrier :D

Hmmm, quad 3+ GHz cores on 45nm with integrated PCI-E on die controller ...

</ wet dream>

Fixed
 

Bona Fide

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Why don't we ask the people who are running four (4) dual-core Opterons? 8 cores must be wicked. :p
 

Intelia

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If amd and intel can make all the cores work together as 1 core it gives me gooze bumps. (on 1 thread)
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: her34
with the next upgrade in cpu's being 4 cores, do you have as much excitement towards 4 cores as you did in the jump to 2 cores?

I am. My planned server upgrade for next year will partly consist of either a pair of dual core Xeons or a pair of dual Opterons and 8gb ram, depending on price/performance and my budget.
 

n7

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Considering how slowly multithreaded software is coming out, i am not impressed how things are gonna be for the next while.

Having quad-core is great & all, but it's at the expense of actual performance improvements right now, since it's still several years away before even half the games out there are coded to take benefit from this.
 

JEDIYoda

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People keep neglecting the fact that your everyday apps and games will be multi-threaded. There will be huge performance gains when this happens. It isn't all about multi-tasking.


from what I have read gaming wont be multi threaded for quite a while.

Seems the majority of gamers dont have the cash to invest in the latest greatest multi threaded CPU!!!
 

bigsexychris

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of course everyday apps will take advantage of multiple cores.. Clearly though, professional-level apps that are specifically written for multicore are already seeing huge improvements. Most of these posts sound like people saying [back in the day] "4mb of RAM? omg we'll never need more lol 8mb thatz crazy!" [/back in the day]. Imagine Photoshop running on 16 cores, applying a blur filter to an 11x17 300dpi image.. INSTANTLY. Imagine After Effects processing full resolution HD in realtime. If you want that now, you're spending tens of thousands of dollars. However, that kind of power will be on one little chip before we know it. And software will definitely catch up.

Prediction: Microsoft Office 2015 will need a 16-core processor with a minimum of 16gb of ram.

-chris
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
People keep neglecting the fact that your everyday apps and games will be multi-threaded. There will be huge performance gains when this happens. It isn't all about multi-tasking.


from what I have read gaming wont be multi threaded for quite a while.

Seems the majority of gamers dont have the cash to invest in the latest greatest multi threaded CPU!!!

You really dont know what you are talking about do you?

First of all, CPU's are not multithreaded, software is multi-threaded to take advantage to processors (or in this case 2 cores).

Im pretty sure most gamers do have the money or otherwise the X2 series wouldn't be selling ;)
 

kleinwl

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Not that every gamer is rushing out to buy an X2, but if they have enough money to purchase a 7800GTX, then they certainly will find the cash to buy a X2 IF the games warrent it.