Are you ever more tired after you wake up?

Chaotic42

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Does this happen to anyone else? You're more tired after you wake up than you were when you went to sleep?

I've always been like this. I have a weird problem in that I wake up 20 times per night. I have really vivid dreams and they kind of shock me into waking up. Sometimes I'm so tired that I literally almost collapse from exhaustion when I wake up and turn off the alarm clock.

Anyone else feel like this, or is it just me?
 

Kipper

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Problem: you're waking up in the middle of your sleep cycle. That is why sleeping 35-45 minutes will give you lots of energy but typically sleeping for an hour or so will make you wake up a bit drowsy or disoriented.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: HajikuFlip
If you sleep for more than 8 hours, you'll just become even more tired.

no. not everyone has the same sleeping requirments

as for the OP.....well....i am usually always tired when i wake up for work.
 

Heisenberg

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If you're really waking up 20 times a night, you might want to ask your doctor about it. You could have some sleep disorder that could be treated.
 

dbk

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Originally posted by: HajikuFlip
If you sleep for more than 8 hours, you'll just become even more tired.

I found this too be very true. If I sleep more than 8-9 hours, I can't seem to get up. Why is this? Anyone know?
 

BatmanNate

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Does this happen to anyone else? You're more tired after you wake up than you were when you went to sleep?

I've always been like this. I have a weird problem in that I wake up 20 times per night. I have really vivid dreams and they kind of shock me into waking up. Sometimes I'm so tired that I literally almost collapse from exhaustion when I wake up and turn off the alarm clock.

Anyone else feel like this, or is it just me?


Pretty normal, I'd say. Like if I wake up to piss, I'm not that tired. But if it's for work, I'm a zombie. I'm probably mental.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: HajikuFlip
If you sleep for more than 8 hours, you'll just become even more tired.

I've tried everything. Believe me. I've set my alarm clock for just about every combination of 30, 60, and 90 minutes there is. It just doesn't work. Mentally I'm ok, it's just that my body seems to forget to rest itself physically.
 

Kipper

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: HajikuFlip
If you sleep for more than 8 hours, you'll just become even more tired.

I've tried everything. Believe me. I've set my alarm clock for just about every combination of 30, 60, and 90 minutes there is. It just doesn't work. Mentally I'm ok, it's just that my body seems to forget to rest itself physically.

Try doing some cardiovascular exercise (about 30-45 mins) during the day. Run, bike, swim, whatever.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
Try doing some cardiovascular exercise (about 30-45 mins) during the day. Run, bike, swim, whatever.
I walk at a decent pace for about 45 minutes 5 days per week. I have bad knees so running and to a lesser extent biking are hard on them. I don't know how to swim.
 

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If he's waking up during a dream phase, he's not interupting his sleep cycle, as delta sleep (regenerative sleep) doesn't contain dreams, REM sleep does. Sounds to me like you need to see a doctor. Most people wake up about 5-10 times a night. They just don't remember
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: gyromind
If he's waking up during a dream phase, he's not interupting his sleep cycle, as delta sleep (regenerative sleep) doesn't contain dreams, REM sleep does. Sounds to me like you need to see a doctor.

Hmmm...

See, when I sleep, I dream immediately. If I sleep for 10 minutes, I dream during that. Everytime I wake up and fall back asleep, I dream until I wake up again. It's the dreams that wake me up.
 

gyromind

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You can't be certain you go straight back to REM sleep. Your mind can't remember delta sleep, so it will seem as no time has passed.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: gyromind
You can't be certain you go straight back to REM sleep. Your mind can't remember delta sleep, so it will seem as no time has passed.

Interesting.

So would being really tired after you wake up be a sign that you didn't get enough delta sleep?
 

gyromind

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The sleep cycle should work like this: At the beginning of the night your Delta phase should be very large, like 1 hour, and your REM portion should be relatively small, 5 min. or so. Through the night they shift as your body becomes rested. And before you wake up in the morning it will be mostly REM sleep. If that isn't what is happening then something is wrong
 

yukichigai

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Always. Even when I've slept for 14 hours I feel like staying in bed. It's just after about 12 I feel like standing up and doing something at the same time. I get up on my own when the second urge outdoes the first.
 

jayoung

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I think the problem is when you deviate from the norm. If you're accustomed to sleeping 8 hours a night, the farther you deviate from that, the more tired you become. I think the effec tof sleeping 6 and 10 hours is the same on creating sleepiness.
 

edro

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You are waking up in the deepest sleep cycle (Stage 4 or REM sleep), which sucks... :D

That's if I remember Psychology class correctly. :D
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: edro13
You are waking up in the deepest sleep cycle (Stage 4 or REM sleep), which sucks... :D

That's if I remember Psychology class correctly. :D

Well, starting on 8/20, my body gets all of the fun of 6h50m of sleep per night.
 

Chaotic42

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This is weird.

I fell asleep at around 3:30, but my body just woke up at 8. That's 4.5 hours or 270 minutes, which is evenly divisible by 90.
 

Tremulant

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When I have to wake up for work, I'm usually more tired than usual. Even though I enjoy my job. I can't sleep late though, even on weekends. The latest I've ever woken up has been 9:30am, and that's after being up until 3-4am. But I've always woken up early. My brother though, he can sleep all day. Yesterday he fell asleep at 1am, woke up at 4am, fell back asleep at 10am and then finally 'woke up' at 5pm. I'm guessing he didn't sleep last night.