Are you dissappointed to find out friends or acquaintances are religious?

[Nebor]

AT has a pretty strong Atheist\Agnostic front going on, so I'm mainly looking for their opinions.

I've been facing this a lot lately here at Officer Candidate School. I consider myself to be a very even handed, open-minded, accepting person. I've been to pretty much every type of religious service you could think of, and have a decent working knowledge of all the major religions. Some of my friends are religious, and I've been to church and temple with them, and they are some of my best friends.

And yet, amongst this class of 170 people who I know moderately well, every time I sit down to chow with a new set of people, and see one of them pray before they eat, I feel as if I'm downgrading them in my mind. Like I'm disappointed in them. Anyone else feel this way?

 

[KLin]

You're a heathen. BE GONE

 

[Alone]

Well...religion is a choice. Personally, I'm an Atheist, and I think people who believe in God are mistaken. But shit, a lot of people have a lot of opinions I find stupid, and if I judged them for all of that, well, no one would be able to tolerate me. Whatever makes them happy, it makes no difference to me.

 

[effowe]

I lost a friend to Jesus, so yes, it is disappointing.

 

[Saga]

Typically they immediately get put into the same category as women. The "Can not argue because nothing will be rational" category.

Sure I'm disappointed. More because they're going to use a made up imaginary deity as an excuse to do shit most rational people wouldn't. I'm typically rather grateful to be warned ahead of time by the knowledge that they are religious, though - that way I'm not taken offguard.

 

[Amused]

Not at all. Most of my friends and family have religious beliefs. Why on earth would I allow that to come between me and someone I like or love?

 

[OCGuy]

I have no problem with it, as long as they dont try to push that horseshit on me. If they stay quiet about it, I stay quiet about it.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Contrary to my argumentative endeavors on the internet, I don't really care what the people I interact with in the real world believe. Some of my greatest friends are unfortunately-stereotypical evangelical Christians.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I have no problem with it, as long as they dont try to push that horseshit on me. If they stay quiet about it, I stay quiet about it.

this should /thread

 

[EvilYoda]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I have no problem with it, as long as they dont try to push that horseshit on me. If they stay quiet about it, I stay quiet about it.

this should /thread

That and I would only be disappointed if it was a woman that I was interested in as that would almost certainly kill it for me.

 

[herm0016]

Originally posted by: Nebor
AT has a pretty strong Atheist\Agnostic front going on, so I'm mainly looking for their opinions.

I've been facing this a lot lately here at Officer Candidate School. I consider myself to be a very even handed, open-minded, accepting person. I've been to pretty much every type of religious service you could think of, and have a decent working knowledge of all the major religions. Some of my friends are religious, and I've been to church and temple with them, and they are some of my best friends.

And yet, amongst this class of 170 people who I know moderately well, every time I sit down to chow with a new set of people, and see one of them pray before they eat, I feel as if I'm downgrading them in my mind. Like I'm disappointed in them. Anyone else feel this way?

so what you are saying is that you discriminate against the religious and you think you are better than all of them?

why is this acceptable when discrimination with regard to skin, sexual orientation, economic situation, etc. is wrong? It does not sound like they are preaching to you, otherwise i'm sure you would have mentioned that, what is so wrong with believing in some higher order of organization to our world?

 

[Baked]

Don't care as long as they keep it to themselves. All my friends are pagans. My bro and his wife's Christian though.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: EvilYoda

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I have no problem with it, as long as they dont try to push that horseshit on me. If they stay quiet about it, I stay quiet about it.

this should /thread

That and I would only be disappointed if it was a woman that I was interested in as that would almost certainly kill it for me.

Yeah, that's true. I couldn't be in a romantic relationship with a person for whom religion was a big part of her life.

 

[GeekDrew]

Yes.

 

[jonks]

Just for being religious, not really, most people still follow their parents in that respect and tend to emulate those in their community since it's human to want to belong.

But if they are a person who denies established science or ever prosthtylizes to me about my eternal soul or anything, we're not going to be very close. I guess I do put an asterisk next to their intelligence level if they profess to believe religious history as fact (adam/eve, flood, etc)

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: herm0016
why is this acceptable when discrimination with regard to skin, sexual orientation, economic situation, etc. is wrong?

those are not choices people make. religion you have to choose to believe.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

It's all a matter of perspective. I suspect some of those praying feel the same way about you Nebor.

 

[Jumpem]

No, but I'd be dissappointed if they were atheist or non-Christian.

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: Nebor
AT has a pretty strong Atheist\Agnostic front going on, so I'm mainly looking for their opinions.

I've been facing this a lot lately here at Officer Candidate School. I consider myself to be a very even handed, open-minded, accepting person. I've been to pretty much every type of religious service you could think of, and have a decent working knowledge of all the major religions. Some of my friends are religious, and I've been to church and temple with them, and they are some of my best friends.

And yet, amongst this class of 170 people who I know moderately well, every time I sit down to chow with a new set of people, and see one of them pray before they eat, I feel as if I'm downgrading them in my mind. Like I'm disappointed in them. Anyone else feel this way?

If I were you I would stop considering myself to be an even-handed, open-minded, accepting person.

 

[torpid]

Yes. Several friends recently have expressed belief in "paranormal" things such as ghosts and kids seeing "auras". Even though I find that completely ridiculous and am dumbfounded that someone I otherwise consider to be quite intelligent believes that donkey crap, it is still less disappointing than finding out a friend is religious enough for me to notice it.

 

[joesmoke]

I really don't judge based upon religion alone... once I hear HOW they talk about religion, thats when I judge them

 

[Descartes]

Not really, though sometimes it's a little surprising. I have a friend that's hardcore atheist, and I didn't learn that until recently. Extreme atheism isn't a lot different than extreme religion, imo.

Other than that, I'm more disappointed to find out that they're highly political. A good colleague of mine that I had known for years had a political stance completely unknown to me until I read his blog full of conspiracy theories and diatribes about a particular presidential candidate.

So: I'm disappointed when I find out my acquaintances/friends/family are extreme anything.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: allisolm

Originally posted by: Nebor
AT has a pretty strong Atheist\Agnostic front going on, so I'm mainly looking for their opinions.

I've been facing this a lot lately here at Officer Candidate School. I consider myself to be a very even handed, open-minded, accepting person. I've been to pretty much every type of religious service you could think of, and have a decent working knowledge of all the major religions. Some of my friends are religious, and I've been to church and temple with them, and they are some of my best friends.

And yet, amongst this class of 170 people who I know moderately well, every time I sit down to chow with a new set of people, and see one of them pray before they eat, I feel as if I'm downgrading them in my mind. Like I'm disappointed in them. Anyone else feel this way?

If I were you I would stop considering myself to be an even-handed, open-minded, accepting person.

Please explain your disagreement with the OPs' opinion of himself. He said he associates with people of many religious persuasions, but in his mind he feels like he's "downgrading them."

He's being open and honest that he feels differently towards those kind of folks.

So how is he NOT open-minded?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: herm0016

Originally posted by: Nebor
AT has a pretty strong Atheist\Agnostic front going on, so I'm mainly looking for their opinions.

I've been facing this a lot lately here at Officer Candidate School. I consider myself to be a very even handed, open-minded, accepting person. I've been to pretty much every type of religious service you could think of, and have a decent working knowledge of all the major religions. Some of my friends are religious, and I've been to church and temple with them, and they are some of my best friends.

And yet, amongst this class of 170 people who I know moderately well, every time I sit down to chow with a new set of people, and see one of them pray before they eat, I feel as if I'm downgrading them in my mind. Like I'm disappointed in them. Anyone else feel this way?

so what you are saying is that you discriminate against the religious and you think you are better than all of them?

why is this acceptable when discrimination with regard to skin, sexual orientation, economic situation, etc. is wrong? Because religion is a choice, and I would say that economic situation is in some cases reasonable too, if they did it to themselves


It does not sound like they are preaching to you, otherwise i'm sure you would have mentioned that, what is so wrong with believing in some higher order of organization to our world?

 

[AreaCode7O7]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: allisolm

Originally posted by: Nebor
AT has a pretty strong Atheist\Agnostic front going on, so I'm mainly looking for their opinions.

I've been facing this a lot lately here at Officer Candidate School. I consider myself to be a very even handed, open-minded, accepting person. I've been to pretty much every type of religious service you could think of, and have a decent working knowledge of all the major religions. Some of my friends are religious, and I've been to church and temple with them, and they are some of my best friends.

And yet, amongst this class of 170 people who I know moderately well, every time I sit down to chow with a new set of people, and see one of them pray before they eat, I feel as if I'm downgrading them in my mind. Like I'm disappointed in them. Anyone else feel this way?

If I were you I would stop considering myself to be an even-handed, open-minded, accepting person.

Please explain your disagreement with the OPs' opinion of himself. He said he associates with people of many religious persuasions, but in his mind he feels like he's "downgrading them."

He's being open and honest that he feels differently towards those kind of folks.

So how is he NOT open-minded?

Open-minded would be, "Huh, I am guessing I will generally disagree with you but I'd be interested to hear about the process by which you arrive at your conclusions."
Close-minded is, "I see a external sign (prayer) by which I am going to draw negative conclusions about your beliefs, IQ, and worldview without actually talking about any of it with you."