Are you against immigration to the US? If so, what is your retort for this image?

Ns1

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just wondering, cuz I don't have one.

(not in P&N because I don't have any additional commentary)

Still belongs in P&N.
-ViRGE
 
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norseamd

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not against immigration

also my ancestors were here before any other europeans
 

BoomerD

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Since many of my ancestors still live on the Res...I can somewhat agree with that.

However, since the whites conquered the blanket-ass native population, they are free to put in place whatever kind of restrictions on immigration they wish.

The country is already over populated in many areas...the parts that remain with lower population density are either food production areas (such as the midwest farm land) or are places where life is more difficult. (Wyoming, North Dakota, etc.)

The US of A does not need and SHOULD NOT be so over-populated like some of the Asian countries where people live on top of other people in a crush of humanity.
 

nickbits

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My wife is an immigrant and I am against unrestricted immigration or amnesty. As far as the pic, they lost, time for them to get over it. In Canada, they pay natives reparations or something and I think it's bs.
 

techs

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Since many of my ancestors still live on the Res...I can somewhat agree with that.

However, since the whites conquered the blanket-ass native population, they are free to put in place whatever kind of restrictions on immigration they wish.

The country is already over populated in many areas...the parts that remain with lower population density are either food production areas (such as the midwest farm land) or are places where life is more difficult. (Wyoming, North Dakota, etc.)

The US of A does not need and SHOULD NOT be so over-populated like some of the Asian countries where people live on top of other people in a crush of humanity.

That's actually pretty funny. The US is not over populated. Just go into any ISP thread and listen to why the US doesn't have decent internet and its because we have a low population density.
750px-World_population_density_map.PNG

New York State has a lower population density than England. And New York is the third largest state by population
 
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norseamd

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Since many of my ancestors still live on the Res...I can somewhat agree with that. However, since the whites conquered the blanket-ass native population, they are free to put in place whatever kind of restrictions on immigration they wish. The country is already over populated in many areas...the parts that remain with lower population density are either food production areas (such as the midwest farm land) or are places where life is more difficult. (Wyoming, North Dakota, etc.) The US of A does not need and SHOULD NOT be so over-populated like some of the Asian countries where people live on top of other people in a crush of humanity.

mexicans will eventually adjust the racial percentage of the population more equally towards indiginous. on average mexicans are like 50%.

so maybe 25% or more

what tribes do you have ancestors from?
 

Svnla

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I have a retort.

Selective LEGAL immigration to pick the best ones such as Elon Musk of Tesla Motors, Andy Grove of Intel, Jerry Yang of Yahoo, Larry Page of Google, and so on = good for the USA.

Massive ILLEGAL immigration and let hordes of illiterate peasants in = bad.
 
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artemicion

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Personally I view illegal immigration the same way I view traffic laws: I agree that the laws need to exist and be enforced, but have no great personal judgment or resentment toward those who break the laws because, hell, America is pretty awesome.
 

Svnla

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=original immigration to north america

where do you think england shipped all of the religious minorities to

Back then, it was ok to own slaves, women were not allowed to vote, you could claim land as your own by moving westward, and so on. Is it ok to do all that now?

Apple and orange, not the same of then and now. We are talking about now.
 

WilliamM2

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Why would I leave? I was born here, as were my parents, and their parents, and their parents...
 

phucheneh

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I have a retort.

Selective LEGAL immigration to pick the best ones such as Elon Musk of Tesla Motors, Andy Grove of Intel, Yang of Yahoo, and so on = good for the USA.

Massive ILLEGAL immigration and let hordes of illiterate peasants in = bad.

The 'peasants' are doing the work you won't do.

The biggest problem with our country is dumb people going to college and acquiring jobs where there their [lack of] intelligence does damage. More of them should be toiling in the fields.

Or maybe you think we should have just left that to slavery, right? No one was against black people when they were allowed to own them like pets.
 

KLin

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My wife is an immigrant and I am against unrestricted immigration or amnesty. As far as the pic, they lost, time for them to get over it. In Canada, they pay natives reparations or something and I think it's bs.

US does as well. They're called indian gaming casinos.
 

Murloc

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that's sorta like asking a german if he wants more multikulti then showing him pics of concentration camps to try and prove he's a nazi when he says no.

The 'peasants' are doing the work you won't do.

The biggest problem with our country is dumb people going to college and acquiring jobs where there their [lack of] intelligence does damage. More of them should be toiling in the fields.
the two are related. I guess there's plenty of poor people who would do those jobs if there wasn't wage dumping, and wouldn't go to college if there was a serious and tax-subsidized professional education system at secondary and tertiary level.
 
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KeithP

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I am against uncontrolled illegal immigration. Legal immigration I am fine with.

As for a retort, "Native" Americans aren't actually native to North America regardless of what some brain dead moron types on a picture.

-KeithP
 

norseamd

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I am against uncontrolled illegal immigration. Legal immigration I am fine with. As for a retort, "Native" Americans aren't actually native to North America regardless of what some brain dead moron types on a picture.

that is like saying europeans are not native to western eurasia
 

JManInPhoenix

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79193-So-Youre-Against-Immigration-When-Do-You-Leave-.jpg


just wondering, cuz I don't have one.

(not in P&N because I don't have any additional commentary)

Reminds me of a cartoon I saw years ago. It showed two Indians standing on a hill overlooking a beach where a bunch of Europeans had just landed. The one says to the other something to the effect of "Great, there goes the neighborhood"