Are you a werewolf Game 14 (Evil wins!)

[dustb0wlkid]

It's the final countdown. Who will the decidedly evil Storma choose to believe?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Being in the position to know Juju’s identity, it gives MORE reason to vote against him. On day 2 only he knew MonKENy’s identity, and I don’t see how my strategy in voting for him is any different than you voting for MonKENy while thinking he was the wolf. Yes, I knew who he was, but in these games staying under the radar is key. In this case, it was unfortunate that MonKENy was picked out by blind luck and that JujuFish just happened to be the challenger. Had I defended Juju strongly on day 3 and voted against Chiropteran instead, I would have ended up in the same place dustb0wlkid found himself (accused of being evil), and we would have no chance of victory.

My claim of not being evil in post #207 is meaningless and I shouldn’t need to defend it. Interestingly, in that exact post I lay out the strategy of voting against my side to maintain innocence, which is clearly a functional strategy being that we both claim it.

 

[drum]

your claim of not being evil is meaningless? Are you serious? well then whats the point if facts pointing out you're lying don't count?

I maintain there is NO WAY you would vote for half of your team to die in consecutive lynchings. Not happening.

In your post you are claiming we are going after the same strategy? Try again. Your strategy would have been to kill monkeny AND jujufish in consecutive lynchings!! Half of your team! That was NOT my strategy as I said before.

I knew monkey was the wolf, as I pointed out. Here is my role list as I saw it on Tuesday Sept. 11 at 3:45PM

ALIVE- Mason - yes
Chiropteran- seer
drum- cub -yes
highland145- prince -yes
JujuFish- sorcerer -yes
HamburgerBoy-cultist
dustb0wlkid- mason
Storma- Crone? not mason
Krazy4Real- ghost not mason
MonKENy- wolf
PenguinPower- cultist -yes


Obviously, I had several wrong but I got the important ones. Notice I did not have yes after monkeny because i wasn't sure yet because juju hadn't made his post saying he didn't want to vote for monkeny yet.

I had krazy and storma as not mason because there was no way krazy would immediately out his mason partner and storma voting wan't a slam dunk but i felt comfortable with it.
I thought you were the cultist since dustbowl felt like the mason with his mocking the other mason for not helping alive.


EDIT: changed bold roles to italics to avoid possible voting shenanigans

 

[MonKENy]

Asshat

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I only voted for MonKENy on the first day, the same as you. How does that equal "voting for half of my team"? I was actually relieved that no one suspected me of being the sorcerer after my thorough argument to spare MonKENy.

 

[drum]

I said this:

Well, thanks to monk we know hamburger is not the cub. Storma has been giving me the other cultist vibe.

Because of this:

ok then for the ass hats on team evil who though I was a wolf and then voted to lynch me. I hope you lose

Obviously monkey was talking about the Cub here. Why? Because the cub is the only person that he KNOWS is on team evil! If you were a cub he would have never made this post because as far as he knows the people on team bad didn't vote for him!

In my other post I thought you had voted for monkey which is why i didn't bring this up and said that you voted to kill half of your team.

You did still vote for juju immediately after the wolf had died (voted for juju on consecutive lynches) which is absolutely NOT what a sane bad team member (myself) would do.

 

[drum]

You cannot refute my last post.
If you were the cub, monkey would have never made that post.

EDIT: Yes, you voted for monkeny on the first day when alive was lynched. Why would monkey care about that? that didn't get him killed. He is talking about the lynch voting that got him killed, which did not involve you.

 

[MonKENy]

asshats

 

[drum]

you know what? since what monkey said is technically illegal as he posted it after he died, lets strike that evidence from the record.
Storma, to remove you having to guess who to believe, vote to lynch yourself.
I will then change my vote to you, yes, your vote for yourself will then get you lynched... but that night I can kill hamburger to win the game for team bad.
This removes the chance of you accidentally voting for the wrong guy and killing the cub ending the game in a draw.
We can't lose this way. You die but that leaves just me and the mason who I kill tonight, we win!

This is a win win for you. It doesn't matter who you believe this way, the cub will be alive to kill the imposter. If I am lying, hamburger kills me and you win. If hamburger is lying, I kill him and you win.
This way team bad can win without using illegal evidence.


Also, Hamburger HAD to claim to be the cub. If he had claimed to be the cultist, I could vote to lynch whichever one of you I wanted because if I vote to lynch the fake cultist, Bad team wins. If I vote to lynch the real cultist, then I just kill the imposter the following night and bad team wins either way!
His only hope was to claim cub and get me killed so the game would be a draw.

So, you can either vote for hamburger and end this the quick way, or vote for yourself ( I will then change my vote to you as well) and after you die, I can kill hamburger for the win.

 

[Chiropteran]

Well played

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yeah, don't think I can get around that. I'll suicide since the game is basically over now, in case Storma doesn't show up for a while. HamburgerBoy

Well played indeed. I actually thought Krazy was the cub up until his death, which maybe doesn't make much sense looking at the voting records in retrospect, but I'm still learning. This game was excellent from beginning to end. Need to keep better notes (and an alibi) in the future...

 

[JujuFish]

Yay evil team.

Storma, to remove you having to guess who to believe, vote to lynch yourself.
I will then change my vote to you, yes, your vote for yourself will then get you lynched... but that night I can kill hamburger to win the game for team bad..

This is almost the exact strategy I thought of during the hunter wins if just hunter and werewolf left game, but the situation didn't arise. The main difference is that one would be auto-win for team good.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Hamburger boy death-clock 12pm Thursday.

This kind of back-and-forth toward death is why wolf-IRL is addictive.

 

[MonKENy]

im still claiming asshats on all of you

 

[drum]

im still claiming asshats on all of you

calm down. it was nothing personal and the strategy worked. you won!


as you can see in my list, dustbowl coming up ghost threw me off. I thought for sure he was the mason.

Storma, before my last post would you have believed me?

 

[Storma]

Storma, to remove you having to guess who to believe, vote to lynch yourself.
I will then change my vote to you, yes, your vote for yourself will then get you lynched... but that night I can kill hamburger to win the game for team bad.
This removes the chance of you accidentally voting for the wrong guy and killing the cub ending the game in a draw.
We can't lose this way. You die but that leaves just me and the mason who I kill tonight, we win!

This is a win win for you. It doesn't matter who you believe this way, the cub will be alive to kill the imposter. If I am lying, hamburger kills me and you win. If hamburger is lying, I kill him and you win.
This way team bad can win without using illegal evidence.

Sounds good to me! But Drum.. I believe you! STORMA

Storma, before my last post would you have believed me?
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YEP, but when I read the first post Hambergler made, I just knew it was true! I'm actually really glad that we have the advantage and no matter what happens I win. LOL Thank you drum for that wonderful advice. And even though I believe you, siding with one person or the other gives the game too much risk for our team to win, so I will vote to lynch myself.
I'll TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM. So to speak so that we can win. I seriously thought drum was the mason. Though I had no trust in anyone. LOL I think I may have thought that because it seemed like you were out to get me lynched during the game. But, now I know that you were just trying to find out who I was. I'm actually surprised I lived this long!

 

[Chiropteran]

Signups for next game, to begin tomorrow: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2271332

 

[dustb0wlkid]

Two mistakes:

1) I should have jumped on the JuJuFish bandwagon, as this would probably avoid me getting lynched.

2) Should have used the ghost role to campaign hard for Hamburger. In my defense, the day and night cycles were pretty wonky towards the end, and people were dying left and right at odd times.

 

[drum]

like i said storma, you were giving me cultist vibes with the nature of your posts. They sounded like something a powerless baddie trying to stay neutral in the background would say, which is why I left you alone. I killed krazy because I knew he wasn't the mason, so that left him to be the crone or cultist. After he said dust had a huge target on his back and then dust immediately got silenced afterward, I figured he was the crone and I turned out to be right when I killed him. I killed chirop, because juju's knowledge was passed on to me when he died even though, as my list states, i was pretty sure he was the seer anyway. his trying to get me to say i was the mason was suspicious to me. GG everyone

 

[Dr. Zaus]

The village of evil can not decide, but HamburgerBoy, a Mason helps in his own execution by the cub.

Team EVIL wins!

**

I think the deck seemed heavily stacked against team good and that there was superb game-play all around.

 

[highland145]

The village of evil can not decide, but HamburgerBoy, a Mason helps in his own execution by the cub.

Team EVIL wins!

**

I think the deck seemed heavily stacked against team good and that there was superb game-play all around.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Just imagine if ALIVE hadn't screwed you by lynching himself.

 

[drum]

Just imagine if ALIVE hadn't screwed you by lynching himself.

yes, but the wolf and sorcerer were randomly targeted after that

 

[dustb0wlkid]

yes, but the wolf and sorcerer were randomly targeted after that

Not exactly random. I was pretty certain MonKENy was the wolf based on how he was posting. And I think Chiropteran knew that JuJu was the sorcerer for quite a while.

 

[Storma]

I always have roles that don't do much.. lol

I have been a mason once, but got killed.
I have never been on team evil, until this game... and I couldn't kill anyone, and didn't know anyone. My strategy, stay alive..