Are x2's good overclockers? what do you love most about it that your last cpu lacked? x2 poll

[ashwaterfire]

athlon 64 x2 3800 for $315, would it be able to perform better than say an A64 3500+

If I wanted true brutal speed, whats the most bang for the buck and what do you love more about your new dual core cpu than your last one (if A64 939)

 

[jEnus]

My X2 4200+ (2.2Ghz) is stable at 2.6Ghz

 

[blackllotus]

Originally posted by: ashwaterfire
athlon 64 x2 3800 for $315, would it be able to perform better than say an A64 3500+

Yes. Mines been overclocked at 2.4 for awhile and I've had no problems (thats like two normal 3800s).

 

[tommo123]

i'm still tweaking mine a fair bit. before going to bios 7042BTA on my DFI mobo, i could get 2.75 stable. now upto 2.79 (279x10). 280 gives me errors tho

if i can get 2.8stable with air, i will be happy

 

[Markbnj]

My 4400+ is stable at 2.5 ghz. I could get it higher but the voltage regulation on this board isn't very good. 2.5 is fast enough for me anyway.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: ashwaterfire
athlon 64 x2 3800 for $315, would it be able to perform better than say an A64 3500+

Yessiree

 

[Capt Caveman]

X2 4400+ at 2.75ghz, should get 2.8ghz when I upgrade my mobo.

 

[Unkno]

X2 3800+ 2500Mhz stock voltage

 

[ashwaterfire]

So, these x2 cpu's are really strong performers?

Your X2 3800+ @ 2500mhz compared to a normal A64 cpu clocked at the same speed is uncomparable?

Do these cpu's go on s939 mobo's? Or a differant type?

 

[Mike Altieri]

The X2 series is 939 socket. I have not overclocked, due to lack of a decent motherboard. Well, at least up until next week.

 

[crispy2010]

If you are not ocing the 3800 x2 comes in behind the 3500+here are some benchies!

 

[formulav8]

My X2-3800+ does 2600mhz at stock voltage. Even raising the voltage to 1.4v will not let me get 2700mhz stable though.



Jason

 

[Hacp]

RIght now, it is a little better but not by much. Wait until multithreaded apps come out, sometime next year probably(non game apps ) for a better experience with the X2.

 

[stevty2889]

My 4200+ is running at 2.618ghz. I've had mostly all P4's before, the X2 is faster at everything. Gets to 51c at the overclocked speed, while my pentium-D is idling at 50c at stock speeds, and getting to 70c under load.

 

[Markfw]

I use both cores on all my X2's for F@H. doubles my output for the same electric bill.

 

[Markbnj]

Wait until multithreaded apps come out, sometime next year probably(non game apps ) for a better experience with the X2

Attention OP: the referenced post is drivel, and you can ignore most of anything Hacp says on this topic. Load a CPU monitor on a dual core system, and watch it while you do normal windows-type things. This is something Hacp has never done.

Also, as a software developer who writes Windows apps, silly comments like this just yank my chain. "Wait until multi-threaded apps come out next year! omg omg!"

Dude, shut up .

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Definately feel the difference with my 3800+ x2 from my 3.2 P4

I had my 3.2 at 4ghz and my x2 at 2.6 ghz 1.45 voltage.. you multitask more than you think.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: Markbnj

Wait until multithreaded apps come out, sometime next year probably(non game apps ) for a better experience with the X2

Attention OP: the referenced post is drivel, and you can ignore most of anything Hacp says on this topic. Load a CPU monitor on a dual core system, and watch it while you do normal windows-type things. This is something Hacp has never done.

Also, as a software developer who writes Windows apps, silly comments like this just yank my chain. "Wait until multi-threaded apps come out next year! omg omg!"

Dude, shut up .

Yeah, you really don't need dual core enabled application to benefit from dual core. I just setup my second dual core system with a 165 and installed some old games. I was playing Neverwinter Nights, and in the beginning, everything was Okay, but I noticed a little lag when I used the max quality setting.

Then after a few days, I started running into those frame rate issues people running into with dual core. So I was like, okay, no biggie, I will just assign affinity to the second core, thinking most tasks get automatically assigned to first core.

Then I play the game again, OMG, no more lags in the max setting, everything feels much smoother. Then I opened up my task manager while I was playing, and hey guess what, bunch of processes get turned on and off on the first core, and my game is the only thing running on the second core.

Here is a link with ppl experiencing same thing playing around with setting affinity.

Beyond3D forum

So no, you don't need multi-core enable app to take advantage of dual core. With any app, you can play around with the affinity setting to take advantage of the two cores. (BTW, you don't need windows 2k3 server to set affinity, imagecfg can do that for you in xp)

 

[lein]

Yay for this thread. I'm kind of in the same position. I have both a 3200+ and a 3800+ X2 in my possession. I cant decide whether I want to stay with the 3200 or go with the 3800. Not sure if it's worth the extra 130 or so dollars to go dual core.

 

[Zap]

Just picked up the x2 3800+ with disposable motherboard from Fry's today. Yep, braved the Black Friday sale and a 1 hour 20 min drive in 22ºF temperatures to get my $280 CPU/mobo combo. It started snowing after I got home.

 

[Zebo]

Haha good for you Zap Hope you get a good one.


OP- X2s will not clock as high as single cores due to heat... 2.6 is average while 2.7-2.8 is average for singlecores.


What I like most about it it there never is slowdown. I can be DL 50 files, encoding and even playing a game and it feels like I'm just playing game on single core. I need to figure out speeding up disk w/o spending a fortune on a ultra SCSI array though.. that's my bottleneck ATM. HDD's really go ape when you have lots of things going on but for processor it's nothing.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: Markbnj

Wait until multithreaded apps come out, sometime next year probably(non game apps ) for a better experience with the X2

Attention OP: the referenced post is drivel, and you can ignore most of anything Hacp says on this topic. Load a CPU monitor on a dual core system, and watch it while you do normal windows-type things. This is something Hacp has never done.

Also, as a software developer who writes Windows apps, silly comments like this just yank my chain. "Wait until multi-threaded apps come out next year! omg omg!"

Dude, shut up .

Yeah, you really don't need dual core enabled application to benefit from dual core. I just setup my second dual core system with a 165 and installed some old games. I was playing Neverwinter Nights, and in the beginning, everything was Okay, but I noticed a little lag when I used the max quality setting.

Then after a few days, I started running into those frame rate issues people running into with dual core. So I was like, okay, no biggie, I will just assign affinity to the second core, thinking most tasks get automatically assigned to first core.

Then I play the game again, OMG, no more lags in the max setting, everything feels much smoother. Then I opened up my task manager while I was playing, and hey guess what, bunch of processes get turned on and off on the first core, and my game is the only thing running on the second core.

Here is a link with ppl experiencing same thing playing around with setting affinity.

Beyond3D forum

So no, you don't need multi-core enable app to take advantage of dual core. With any app, you can play around with the affinity setting to take advantage of the two cores. (BTW, you don't need windows 2k3 server to set affinity, imagecfg can do that for you in xp)

Yeah but what a pain to set affinity for every app or how about a $1200 OS to make work properly? Windows task scheduler is broken according to that thread.

 

[onn2000]

X2s are a luck of the draw. It depends on luck, choice of components, and the steps you took in overclocking.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Haha good for you Zap Hope you get a good one.

Thanks. Also picked up an Antec TruePower 2.0 480W from Circuit City for $50AR. Hopefully gonna test out the combo today just to make sure it isn't DOA. I ordered an A64 3200+ with an Abit K8N board from Monarch. Gonna eventually put the 3200+ on the ECS for 2.5GHz with the 250MHz maximum on that board. The 3800+ x2 will go in the Abit board because the lower 9x multiplier needs higher bus speeds. Yeah, the 3200+ may be able to go higher than 2.5GHz, but that will go in my wife's system so it shouldn't be on the edge of stability, LOL.

Originally posted by: Zebo
I need to figure out speeding up disk w/o spending a fortune on a ultra SCSI array though.. that's my bottleneck ATM. HDD's really go ape when you have lots of things going on

How about just doing tasks on different hard drives? C: drive for all the programs. Download to D: drive. Encode to E: drive.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Zebo
I need to figure out speeding up disk w/o spending a fortune on a ultra SCSI array though.. that's my bottleneck ATM. HDD's really go ape when you have lots of things going on

How about just doing tasks on different hard drives? C: drive for all the programs. Download to D: drive. Encode to E: drive.

:thumbsup: Brought that up in another X2 thread, heavy I/O will cause serious thrashing when just using a single drive, making dice chips less effective than they could be.

I tried to be lazy and get by with just my 250gb SATA2 when I 1st built my X2, it was quickly evident that I needed to get my RAID5 in there.