Are we headed toward another Holocaust? Jews ordered to register Russia

Oldgamer

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USA today news link

Jews in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk where pro-Russian militants have taken over government buildings were told they have to "register" with the Ukrainians who are trying to make the city become part of Russia, according to Israeli media.

Jews emerging from a synagogue say they were handed leaflets that ordered the city's Jews to provide a list of property they own and pay a registration fee "or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportation and see their assets confiscated," reported Ynet News, Israel's largest news website.

Donetsk is the site of an "anti-terrorist" operation by the Ukraine government, which has moved military columns into the region to force out militants who are demanding a referendum be held on joining Russia.

The leaflets bore the name of Denis Pushilin, who identified himself as chairman of "Donetsk's temporary government," and were distributed near the Donetsk synagogue and other areas, according to the report.

Pushilin acknowledged the flyers were distributed by his organization but he disavowed their content, according to the web site Jews of Kiev, Ynet reported.

Emanuel Shechter, in Israel, told Ynet his friends in Donetsk sent him a copy of the leaflet through social media.

"They told me that masked men were waiting for Jewish people after the Passover eve prayer, handed them the flyer and told them to obey its instructions," he said.

The leaflet begins, "Dear Ukraine citizens of Jewish nationality," and states that all people of Jewish descent over 16 years old must report to the Commissioner for Nationalities in the Donetsk Regional Administration building and "register."

It says the reason is because the leaders of the Jewish community of Ukraine supported Bendery Junta, a reference to Stepan Bandera, the leader of the Ukrainian nationalist movement that fought for Ukrainian independence at the end of World War II, "and oppose the pro-Slavic People's Republic of Donetsk," a name adopted by the militant leadership.

The leaflet then described which documents Jews should provide: "ID and passport are required to register your Jewish religion, religious documents of family members, as well as documents establishing the rights to all real estate property that belongs to you, including vehicles."

Consequences for non-compliance will result in citizenship bein g revoked "and you will be forced outside the country with a confiscation of property." A registration fee of $50 would be required, it said.

Olga Reznikova, 32, a Jewish resident of Donetsk, told Ynet she never experienced anti-Semitism in the city until she saw this leaflet.

"We don't know if these notifications were distributed by pro-Russian activists or someone else, but it's serious that it exists," she said. "The text reminds of the fascists in 1941," she said referring to the Nazis who occupied Ukraine during World War II.

Michael Salberg, director of the international affairs at the New York City-based Anti-Defamation League, said it's unclear if the leaflets were issued by the pro-Russian leadership or a splinter group operating within the pro-Russian camp.

But the Russian side has used the sceptre of anti-Semitism in a cynical manner since anti-government protests began in Kiev that resulted in the ousting of Ukraine's pro-Russian former president Viktor Yanukovych. Russia and its allies in Ukraine issued multiple stories about the the threat posed to Jews by Ukraine's new pro-Western government in Kiev, Salberg said.

Those stories were based in part on ultra-nationalists who joined the Maidan protests, and the inclusion of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda party in Ukraine's new interim government. But the threat turned out to be false, he said.

Svoboda's leadership needs to be monitored, but so far it has refrained from anti-Semitic statements since joining the government, he said. And the prevalence of anti-Semitic acts has not changed since before the Maidan protests, according to the ADL and the Ukrainian Helsinki Human Rights Union, which monitors human rights in Ukraine.

Distributing such leaflets is a recruitment tool to appeal to the xenophobic fears of the majority, to enlist them to your cause and focus on a common enemy, the Jews," Salberg said.

And by targeting Donetsk's Jews, they also send a message to all the region's residents, Salberg said.

"The message is a message to all the people that is we're going to exert our power over you," he said. "Jews are the default scapegoat throughout history for despots to send a message to the general public: Don't step out of line."
 

Oldgamer

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Sec. Kerry is speaking live right now on this, and has said they are very concerned and giving more warnings.
 

moonbogg

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This has to be bullshit. I couldn't imagine being a Jew in Ukraine right now. If these threats are carried out, something needs to be done. I don't think anything like a holocaust is in the works, but this is really wrong.
 

Oldgamer

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Another news site is talking about how Russia may round up Jews that don't comply. Folks this is just the start. I am thinking we are well beyond diplomatic measures honestly.
 

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Another news site is talking about how Russia may round up Jews that don't comply. Folks this is just the start. I am thinking we are well beyond diplomatic measures honestly.

Obama has assured the world and Russia that there will be consequences to Russia's actions! Much consequences, so serious, very ramifications...
 

Oldgamer

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So, do any of you think its worth going to war with Russia if they start killing Jewish people? If so why or why not?
 

sze5003

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This is pretty crazy..might be another war if they won't comply over there.
 

moonbogg

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So, do any of you think its worth going to war with Russia if they start killing Jewish people? If so why or why not?

Just a guess here, but if they start hurting Jews I'm pretty sure we'll drop the hammer on their asses.

Also, is it worth going to war with Russia? It depends on the situation. Russia is not a genocidal nation. They aren't going to round up Jews and pull a fucking Adolph. If they kick them out of Ukraine and steel their shit, I can see more sanctions heading their way and more big words, but no war.
 
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smackababy

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So, do any of you think its worth going to war with Russia if they start killing Jewish people? If so why or why not?

If Russia does start another holocaust, it is going to be us (the US) backing Israel, who I have no doubts will not wait to act. That is just my opinion though.

I sure hope we don't allow the kind of evil that happened in Nazi Germany to happen again. I know a lot of people are war weary after Iraq and Afghanistan, but I'd support a war to stop that stuff from happening.
 

Thebobo

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So, do any of you think its worth going to war with Russia if they start killing Jewish people? If so why or why not?

In my post I ask that as well and yes I think the world needs to show zero tolorance
 

senseamp

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Looks like false flag propaganda, but working pretty well on gullible Americans from reading this thread.
 

smackababy

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I call BS on thread title. Deporting is the the same as killing.

This is a false flag operation to get the wold involved.

They are forcing registration with the threat of deportation. That sounds eerily similar to something I heard in the mid 1930s.
 

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I'd like to see some evidence.

We all know the Jewish pull in USA media/political system. If anything gets us involved, it will be because the Jews want us involved. How to get them involved? Say there is a Holocaust. Easy enough.
 
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Is this really happening? If so why do they care who is jewish other than the fact they want to deport or harass these people?
 

Newell Steamer

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$10 says it's just anti-Russian movements trying to drum up sensationalism and outrage to get international support.
 

Texashiker

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$10 says it's just anti-Russian movements trying to drum up sensationalism and outrage to get international support.

Not going to take that bet, but I pretty much agree with you.

This is probably a false flag operation to drum up international support. Next thing you know Israel will be making threats towards Russia.
 

dank69

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Not going to take that bet, but I pretty much agree with you.

This is probably a false flag operation to drum up international support. Next thing you know Israel will be making threats towards Russia.
Using the term "false flag" is bad enough, but using it twice in the same thread is grounds for immediate execution.
 

moonbogg

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It was supposedly just a few people handing out leaflets. I don't see anything coming of this. Its a good way to get people all upset though. If it continues, Russia could use it as one of many excuses to go into Eastern Ukraine to "stabilize" the region and prevent things from spiraling out of control. So a Russian trick? Could be.
 

Olikan

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You forget Russia's past where they killed off some 20 million+ of their own people.

the past is in the past.... we did invaded and killed most native americans, because it was "our land", CIA is responsible for almost 26 dictatorships during cold war

every country could easily be considered the bad guys, if we look theyr past