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Are we going to see Apple OS for IBM compatibles?

Nope. Apple will release OS X for Apple-branded Intel-based machines, but not anything generic. Whether someone will be able to crack the software to make it run on generic machines has yet to be seen but don't expect to run it on your machine legally.

People still use the term "IBM Compatible"?
 
i seriously doubt it. Apple uses their OS to sell their hardware, which is fairly expensive, at least for the top of the line stuff.
 
I thought it might be a way to avoid DRM in Vista. But, now that someone said that it has to do with the standards they're going to use on the Blue-Ray/HD-DVD, I guess we might be screwed no matter what OS we use.

It wouldn't surprise me if people tried to hack it though. Only thing would be to figure out how to patch/update.
 
Originally posted by: forumposter32
I thought it might be a way to avoid DRM in Vista. But, now that someone said that it has to do with the standards they're going to use on the Blue-Ray/HD-DVD, I guess we might be screwed no matter what OS we use.

It wouldn't surprise me if people tried to hack it though. Only thing would be to figure out how to patch/update.
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Of course peopel would try to hack it. It's still going to be a waste of time, though.

Anyways both Apple and Microsoft are big fans of DRM. Microsoft wants to make their OS the standard platform for all multimedia and they figure that supporting DRM will make it attractive for RIAA and the like to support them.. and Apple's Itune and Ipod marketting sceme is based entirely around DRM.
 
Unless they add an instruction to the chips that makes it physically impossible to run on any other hardware, it will be cracked and on every peer to peer network in weeks.
 
My understanding is they want to compete with Windows and Linux and you will be able to buy a MAC CD and put it on any Intel based PC, now does anyone have any real facts to this?
 
Originally posted by: DasFox
My understanding is they want to compete with Windows and Linux and you will be able to buy a MAC CD and put it on any Intel based PC, now does anyone have any real facts to this?
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All signs point to no.

-magic monkey ball
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Yes, i do.
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People must look at you funny when you do then, because IBM hasn't been setting those standards for a long time.
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No, most people in the places that I have worked use it also. However, most of them are 45+ years old. It is something that you just get used to and continue to call it that. I know IBM has not set those standards for a while.
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Yes, i do.
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People must look at you funny when you do then, because IBM hasn't been setting those standards for a long time.
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No, most people in the places that I have worked use it also. However, most of them are 45+ years old. It is something that you just get used to and continue to call it that. I know IBM has not set those standards for a while.
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Which standards are we talking about? IBM is the number 1 inventor what comes to "PC" standards with some 6000 patents yearly relating to this technology??? MOST "standards" inside your boxes are IBM patents.

(And NO, I don't call them IBM compatible 😛 )
 
I think that OS X cracking will get out of hand, and Apple will release an x-86 version since people are going to get it running anyway, and apple enthusiasts will stick with their MACs and Powerbooks / iBooks just for the luxury of it, but all of that depends on how well OS X cracking progresses, maybe people will start doing it in a legal way by which they buy OS X and through some utility make an x86 version of it burn it and install it on their PCs, it would be reasonable to do for someone that is looking for the security and ease of it and not bother with AV, Spyware..software. just me 2/100 of a dollar 😉
 
Originally posted by: DaFinn
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Yes, i do.
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People must look at you funny when you do then, because IBM hasn't been setting those standards for a long time.
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No, most people in the places that I have worked use it also. However, most of them are 45+ years old. It is something that you just get used to and continue to call it that. I know IBM has not set those standards for a while.
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Which standards are we talking about? IBM is the number 1 inventor what comes to "PC" standards with some 6000 patents yearly relating to this technology??? MOST "standards" inside your boxes are IBM patents.

(And NO, I don't call them IBM compatible 😛 )
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And what makes it extra funny is that IBM created the PowerPC architecture that Apple currently uses. They also make all the G5-type proccessors that Apple uses.

Also IBM sells POWER systems as servers, 'big iron' servers, and mainframe systems.

The POWER is mostly compatable with PowerPC and linux systems that can run on one can usually run on the other without much modifications.

So if anything Apples are the ones that are IBM compatable since they are using IBM cpus!

🙂

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oh, and besides the motherboard, case, and the proccessor Apple uses the same exact hardware and brands that you can get in your average Dell or Gateway PC. Pretty much same ATI cards, same Wifi devices (same chipsets with a propriatory formfactor though), same harddrives, same ram, etc etc.
 
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
I think that OS X cracking will get out of hand, and Apple will release an x-86 version since people are going to get it running anyway, and apple enthusiasts will stick with their MACs and Powerbooks / iBooks just for the luxury of it, but all of that depends on how well OS X cracking progresses, maybe people will start doing it in a legal way by which they buy OS X and through some utility make an x86 version of it burn it and install it on their PCs, it would be reasonable to do for someone that is looking for the security and ease of it and not bother with AV, Spyware..software. just me 2/100 of a dollar 😉
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I think that if it is cracked, or apple actually does release a generic x86 version (not gonna happen), people will find the stability of the OS is on par with MS Windows. This is because currently, OSX is engineered on certain hardware, and only sold with that hardware. Once you start getting all kinds of random hardware, that engineering goes out the window.

IMO.
 
I think the biggest problem people will run into if the Apple OS is cracked to run on any x86 system would be drivers. As rmrf pointed out above, Apple machines run on only a specific set of hardware and only have drivers to run those peices of hardware included in that set. If you change the set there won't be a driver, and you'll need to run some third party hacked driver. Apple won't release any drivers for any other hardware, and I'm sure they won't allow other manufacturers to release drivers for their OS for hardware that they don't directly include.
 
If you change the set there won't be a driver, and you'll need to run some third party hacked driver. Apple won't release any drivers for any other hardware, and I'm sure they won't allow other manufacturers to release drivers for their OS for hardware that they don't directly include.
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"third party hacked driver"? Apple releases docs on the APIs required to write drivers for their OS, they have to otherwise they'd be the only people capable of writing drivers and their OS wouldn't be able to support things like nVidia's or ATI's cards or whatever overpriced PCI sound cards that OS X currently supports. I'm sure Apple will take all of the hardware support they can get, being able to support more devices will only help sell more of their systems.
 
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