are we ever going to see 8 layer blu ray?

Onceler

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holographic tape...etc.
I sure would like to get entire series of shows on one blu-ray.I know new players would be required but when are we ever going to see these.Plus I really need 8 layer blu ray R for saving my important files
 

Onceler

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the tapestry drive is not for consumers,only big outfits can afford them
 

Idontcare

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Hey I worked on FeRam (development and production) and it very much exists and is the real thing! Not our (TI) fault that Ramtron never wanted to take it any further than 130nm process technology and silly small 256KB density.

Biggest challenge with FeRam is cost. Doesn't matter if it is 10x better (faster, lower power, etc) than Flash, cheap consumers won't buy it if flash is available and costs 1% less. Unlike Samual Adams, we could make it but the problem was we couldn't sell it worth a dam.
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: Onceler
the tapestry drive is not for consumers,only big outfits can afford them

oho, so what you meant was when are we gonna get CHEAP holographic media :)...

I predict... 5-10 years from now. but there is not way to tell for sure.
 

yh125d

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Originally posted by: Onceler
the tapestry drive is not for consumers,only big outfits can afford them

As with all ridiculously expensive tech, it will eventually be cheap enough for consumers.
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: yh125d
Originally posted by: Onceler
the tapestry drive is not for consumers,only big outfits can afford them

As with all ridiculously expensive tech, it will eventually be cheap enough for consumers.

I remember when a blu ray drive was ridiculously expensive. heck, its STILL very expensive.
 

Onceler

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I remember reading about FeRAM being the next big thing way back in 97 in an article in PC Mag. I really thought that that tech was going to be the next big thing.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: Onceler
I remember reading about FeRAM being the next big thing way back in 97 in an article in PC Mag. I really thought that that tech was going to be the next big thing.

And it was, but only for a very small niche of applications that the newest flash chips of the time could not service.

The problem with hype is that it is usually posited as unavoidable (ergo the confidence in their presumed ascension to market dominance) but when you delve deeper you realize the unavoidable label is created by imposing an artificial reality whereby progress/development of all the other competing/existing technologies are assumed to come to a complete stand-still (usually justified by the invocation of yet another unavoidable consequence of some aspect of physics - ala "moore's law is dead" or "limits of litho prevent it" or "power consumption will melt the chip" etc).

This is not limited to hype in the technology world. Its SOP for the people who make their paycheck (the author of that PC Mag article) being hypsters across any and all industries.

Embedded dram, zram, mram, memristor, fram etc etc...there are the technologists who know the limits and capabilities of physics inherent to these devices (and they make their paycheck maximizing these capabilities) and then there are the spinsters, journalists, marketing folks who make their paychecks by hyping the hell out of it as the second-coming of the messiah.