Question are video card prices headed down yet?

[Aapje]

Intel is a complete non-factor.

So far.

The drivers are improving rapidly though.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

They are also cannibalizing the future and setting Intel up for success.

Exactly and exactly why we shouldn't be redacted on intel's graphics issues. We need a third player. We don't have to buy intel if its crap, we do need to root for them to make something great.

 

[moonbogg]

Didn't Intel kick Raja in the gut and throw him in the dog house? Heard he got demoted for producing Vega 2.0.

 

[igor_kavinski]

He's hard at work on Vega 3.0

Third time's the charm!

 

[Ranulf]

I see Newegg had a sapphire 6800xt for $530-$20 code briefly on Feb 3rd. Back order status now.

 

[amenx]

Red Dragon 6800xt @ $519

https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Graphics-Powered-Raytracing-Infinity/dp/B08V1WK4LB

Might be gone by time anyone clicks on it.

 

[Meghan54]

Eh, capitalism, what are you gonna do? Maybe they can pass a national sales tax…

Why the heck would anyone want that crapola?

 

[jpiniero]

I see Newegg had a sapphire 6800xt for $530-$20 code briefly on Feb 3rd. Back order status now.

That's about as good of a deal as you are going to get.

 

[Markfw]

I can get a 4090 MSI gaming trio at $1599 at newegg right now(thats MSRP), but $20 shipping. Going in vacation soon, will look when I get back.

 

[adamge]

This has been a lull in the entertainment value of the GPU market.

In other news, prices remain high and availability poor in Canada - worse than Black Friday 2022.

 

[mastertech01]

This has been a lull in the entertainment value of the GPU market.

In other news, prices remain high and availability poor in Canada - worse than Black Friday 2022.

Suckers keep on sucking. Until that stops prices will remain in the sucker zone.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Suckers keep on sucking. Until that stops prices will remain in the sucker zone.

I partially blame r/PCMR and some of the other sub Reddits for it. Posting pics of your new overpriced GPU there, is a good way to karma farm. I don't understand why they care about it, but I acknowledge that they do. Each one that does it, and gets upvoted, helps perpetuate the behavior.

Then they post about how they bought an expensive GPU and use it to play the same old games they were playing on their last card. Or hardly ever use it for gaming, because adulting gets in the way. That gets up voted too, and the karma farming endorphins get released I guess. The layers of guerilla marketing, and positive feedback loop, are simply too much for these people to resist.

 

[MrTeal]

I partially blame r/PCMR and some of the other sub Reddits for it. Posting pics of your new overpriced GPU there, is a good way to karma farm. I don't understand why they care about it, but I acknowledge that they do. Each one that does it, and gets upvoted, helps perpetuate the behavior.

Then they post about how they bought an expensive GPU and use it to play the same old games they were playing on their last card. Or hardly ever use it for gaming, because adulting gets in the way. That gets up voted too, and the karma farming endorphins get released I guess. The layers of guerilla marketing, and positive feedback loop, are simply too much for these people to resist.

I'd rather build computers than game on them anyway, so that makes sense to me.

 

[No_Huckleberry_1514]

Red Dragon 6800xt @ $519

https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Graphics-Powered-Raytracing-Infinity/dp/B08V1WK4LB

Might be gone by time anyone clicks on it.

didn't last long

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I partially blame r/PCMR and some of the other sub Reddits for it. Posting pics of your new overpriced GPU there, is a good way to karma farm. I don't understand why they care about it, but I acknowledge that they do. Each one that does it, and gets upvoted, helps perpetuate the behavior.

Then they post about how they bought an expensive GPU and use it to play the same old games they were playing on their last card. Or hardly ever use it for gaming, because adulting gets in the way. That gets up voted too, and the karma farming endorphins get released I guess. The layers of guerilla marketing, and positive feedback loop, are simply too much for these people to resist.

LOL that makes me feel bad for playing the hell out of Arcade Paradise where you transform a dingy laundromat to a top notch arcade on my 6700 XT. Game is so addicting I have stopped playing Control for a few days.

 

[amenx]

Just when we were becoming a little giddy with the collapse of mining.

NVIDIA AI GPUs Might Face Shortages Due To Increase Demand From AI Giants Utilizing ChatGPT & Other AI Generation Tools

NVIDIA GPU Demand To Exceed Supply As Green Team Bets On ChatGPT, Thousands of AI Chips Expected To be Incorporated By Tech Giants

It looks like NVIDIA's GPU growth is expected to accelerate in the coming months due to the rising popularity of ChatGPT.

wccftech.com

 

[Stuka87]

Just when we were becoming a little giddy with the collapse of mining.

NVIDIA AI GPUs Might Face Shortages Due To Increase Demand From AI Giants Utilizing ChatGPT & Other AI Generation Tools

NVIDIA GPU Demand To Exceed Supply As Green Team Bets On ChatGPT, Thousands of AI Chips Expected To be Incorporated By Tech Giants

It looks like NVIDIA's GPU growth is expected to accelerate in the coming months due to the rising popularity of ChatGPT.

wccftech.com

Not sure that would impact gaming GPUs. Unless nVidia moved wafer allocation to Tesla chips instead of gaming GPUs.

If that is the case, it could actually be good for gamers, as that would give the chance for AMD to take back market share. And having market share be more even between the 3 companies is what would be best for gamers. The absolute worst thing for gamers is for nVidia retain their near monopoly.

 

[amenx]

Not sure that would impact gaming GPUs. Unless nVidia moved wafer allocation to Tesla chips instead of gaming GPUs.

Exactly that on my mind. Any huge demand in one area of their business will likely take away wafers from a slow area. Any tech business of that nature will have to have that flexibility built in.

 

[coercitiv]

Exactly that on my mind. Any huge demand in one area of their business will likely take away wafers from a slow area. Any tech business of that nature will have to have that flexibility built in.

Isn't TSMC operating well bellow capacity though?

 

[amenx]

Isn't TSMC operating well bellow capacity though?

It probably is but who is to say 6-12 months from now?

 

[Aapje]

Isn't TSMC operating well bellow capacity though?

For 6N/7N, not for 5N.

 

[coercitiv]

For 6N/7N, not for 5N.

Why not 5N? We know they faced order cancellations or negotiated delays from multiple major players, including Nvidia and AMD. DigiTimes is also reporting something that fits this picture. I can see how the hype can create a temporary shortage until production gets adjusted, but I'm more skeptic when it comes to affecting gaming products, unless some companies decide it makes more sense to use consumer hardware for cheaper compute.

That being said, Nvidia may very well shift their orders towards pro chips instead of increasing overall production, after all they're trying to teach us a lesson. I just doubt TSMC capacity will be the problem.

 

[Aapje]

I had heard that it was just 5N, but I may be wrong.

If so, there shouldn't be a production limitation for Nvidia & AMD. It would also make sense for TSMC to give temporary discounts to increase demand, which can then be passed on to customers, if that is still a thing.

 

[jpiniero]

Why not 5N? We know they faced order cancellations or negotiated delays from multiple major players, including Nvidia and AMD.

They cancelled some orders but made new ones with other products maybe?

 

[Stuka87]

I had heard that it was just 5N, but I may be wrong.

If so, there shouldn't be a production limitation for Nvidia & AMD. It would also make sense for TSMC to give temporary discounts to increase demand, which can then be passed on to customers, if that is still a thing.

If by "customers" you mean "share holders", then you are spot on.