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Are US companies allowed to not hire non-US born candidates?

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Qacer

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I'm curious. Are US companies allowed to filter out potential candidates because they are naturalized US citizens (citizens who are not born in US soil)? I thought the only position that required one to be US born is the president's seat.
 
they can do so if you don't have a valid stay permit (i.e. visa, green card), or if they don't want to go through the process of working papers for you.
 
Really? I thought one can get at least a secret clearance as long as one is a citizen. I can understand the president's seat, but what if someone was born in another country, moved to the US while still a baby, and became a citizen eventually?

 
Originally posted by: Amorphus
they can do so if you don't have a valid stay permit (i.e. visa, green card), or if they don't want to go through the process of working papers for you.
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you must have ONLY read the title.
 
Originally posted by: Qacer
Really? I thought one can get at least a secret clearance as long as one is a citizen. I can understand the president's seat, but what if someone was born in another country, moved to the US while still a baby, and became a citizen eventually?
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You can get top secret as a citizen - I know some people in that situation that are cleared that high.

You could be restricted from working in certain areas, such as work dealing with the country they were born in, but that type of decision isn't based solely on birthplace - they would consider each individual case and make a decision on your personal ties/feelings towards that country.
 
Besides the fact, I really don't understand what the difference is between a non-US born and a US born baby growing up together. Both are still immersed in American culture. What would be the purpose of one company to not hire the non-US born one? It doesn't make sense.
 
Originally posted by: Qacer
Besides the fact, I really don't understand what the difference is between a non-US born and a US born baby growing up together. Both are still immersed in American culture. What would be the purpose of one company to not hire the non-US born one? It doesn't make sense.
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Something happened with you?

I see this on all job applications I fill out

"This company prohibits discrimination against current or prospective employees on the basis of race, color, sex, religion, national origin, age, disability, sexual orientation, or any other legally protected characteristic."
 
Something happened with you?

I see this on all job applications I fill out

"This company prohibits discrimination against current or prospective employees on the basis of race, color, sex, religion, national origin, age, disability, sexual orientation, or any other legally protected characteristic."
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A recruiter asked me if I was a US citizen. I told her that I was a naturalized US citizen. She replied that the company was looking for a US born citizen. I've never heard of a company that required US born citizens. Most of the listings I've encountered only mention a requirement as a US citizen and not "US born citizen."

 
Originally posted by: Qacer
Something happened with you?

I see this on all job applications I fill out

"This company prohibits discrimination against current or prospective employees on the basis of race, color, sex, religion, national origin, age, disability, sexual orientation, or any other legally protected characteristic."
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A recruiter asked me if I was a US citizen. I told her that I was a naturalized US citizen. She replied that the company was looking for a US born citizen. I've never heard of a company that required US born citizens. Most of the listings I've encountered only mention a requirement as a US citizen and not "US born citizen."
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My guess is that the recruiter is misinformed. On job applications all I've ever seen is the checkbox "I am a US citizen" and the other checkbox "I am a non-citizen authorized to work for any employer in the US". One could argue that you screwed up answering the question; the correct answer would have been "yes, I am a US citizen".
 
Originally posted by: Qacer
Something happened with you?

I see this on all job applications I fill out

"This company prohibits discrimination against current or prospective employees on the basis of race, color, sex, religion, national origin, age, disability, sexual orientation, or any other legally protected characteristic."
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A recruiter asked me if I was a US citizen. I told her that I was a naturalized US citizen. She replied that the company was looking for a US born citizen. I've never heard of a company that required US born citizens. Most of the listings I've encountered only mention a requirement as a US citizen and not "US born citizen."
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What kind of position was this, and what company?
 
Federal Laws Prohibiting Job Discrimination

What Are the Federal Laws Prohibiting Job Discrimination?
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;
the Equal Pay Act of 1963 (EPA), which protects men and women who perform substantially equal work in the same establishment from sex-based wage discrimination;
the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA), which protects individuals who are 40 years of age or older;
Title I and Title V of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA), which prohibit employment discrimination against qualified individuals with disabilities in the private sector, and in state and local governments;
Sections 501 and 505 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibit discrimination against qualified individuals with disabilities who work in the federal government; and
the Civil Rights Act of 1991, which, among other things, provides monetary damages in cases of intentional employment discrimination.
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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
If there are security requirements it is possible.
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especially if you are from a "terrorist country"

i have a very high level security clearance, but i know of a couple people who have been turned down jobs because of country of origin.
but i am guessing that that wasn't the only reason
 
also found this on the same page
National Origin Discrimination
It is illegal to discriminate against an individual because of birthplace, ancestry, culture, or linguistic characteristics common to a specific ethnic group.
A rule requiring that employees speak only English on the job may violate Title VII unless an employer shows that the requirement is necessary for conducting business. If the employer believes such a rule is necessary, employees must be informed when English is required and the consequences for violating the rule.
The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 requires employers to assure that employees hired are legally authorized to work in the U.S. However, an employer who requests employment verification only for individuals of a particular national origin, or individuals who appear to be or sound foreign, may violate both Title VII and IRCA; verification must be obtained from all applicants and employees. Employers who impose citizenship requirements or give preferences to U.S. citizens in hiring or employment opportunities also may violate IRCA.
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What kind of position was this, and what company?
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I don't know. I was inquiring about another position in a power company when the recruiter asked me this question. I am supposed to meet with her in a week to discuss about my internship experience in their company. It could've been another company who asked her about any candidates. I'll ask her about the company name and the exact details on the job.
 
I went to a job interview and asked some pretty stupid questions. They asked me where I am from. I told them I am from Pakistan. Next question, "Heheh.. planning on flying a plane into a building". I just laughed. They offered me the job though, and I took it. Later I found out that I was the only candidate who was willing to work for them, the others weren't even qualified. The company is just plain stupid, and I wish I wasn't that desperate at that time.
 
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
I went to a job interview and asked some pretty stupid questions. They asked me where I am from. I told them I am from Pakistan. Next question, "Heheh.. planning on flying a plane into a building". I just laughed. They offered me the job though, and I took it. Later I found out that I was the only candidate who was willing to work for them, the others weren't even qualified. The company is just plain stupid, and I wish I wasn't that desperate at that time.
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I cant believe you were THAT desperate to take the job! And that you havent switched yet! How offensive.
 
I just find it funny that some US-born citizens are not well verse with English grammar. I know of people from other countries who can speak and write English better than them. I can't wait to find out the company that imposed this restriction.
 
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