Are these grades normal?

Soccerman06

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Well we took our first test friday and apparently 70 people failed the test. Out of a class of 170 people, about 42% failed.

Is that seriously normal? Oh fyi I got 79%
 

gsethi

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I agree with tfinch2. In my calculus class, failure rate for the first exam was ~55-60%. I was one of the ones who messed up the curve though :p (towards the positive side :D)
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: gsethi
I agree with tfinch2. In my calculus class, failure rate for the first exam was ~55-60%. I was one of the ones who messed up the curve though :p (towards the positive side :D)
I concur. There are a lot of dumbasses in those classes. You must have an easy professor. Either that, or he's going easy on you for the first Exam. Enjoy midterms.
 
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what are you talking about.. my calc class 18% of the people got 100%s... when you go to crazy schools the curve is JACKED UP as crazy. You have your average mainstream people failing then you have your nerdy@$$ engineers and math majors getting A++++++s. Totally kills the curve.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Calc isn't anything hard, IMO. I dunno, depends on how good the teacher is.


yeah, freshman math is easy and misleading. You go in thinking, "man, this stuff is so simple...." two years later youfind yourself strapped under the library bench wondering how you can possibly use this transfer funtion to make that graph.
 

Noirish

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that's the whole reason i hate F*ing university.
unless you have a perfect score, your grade ultimately is decided by the over used "bell curve"!
 

spacelord

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I remember an Engineering class in college where the average score was around a 60% for a particular test. The professor gave the entire class an earful. What a crock.. we normally got decent scores. He failed to even think for a second that maybe he didn't teach that section very well.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: spacelord
I remember an Engineering class in college where the average score was around a 60% for a particular test. The professor gave the entire class an earful. What a crock.. we normally got decent scores. He failed to even think for a second that maybe he didn't teach that section very well.


that's every engineering class.....Once I got passed electronics, it was very rare to see a person score above %60.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: spacelord
I remember an Engineering class in college where the average score was around a 60% for a particular test. The professor gave the entire class an earful. What a crock.. we normally got decent scores. He failed to even think for a second that maybe he didn't teach that section very well.

I had a similar situation where the whole class did poorly and the prof chewed us out, but the problem wasn't that he didn't teach it well, it was that we didn't expect such a difficult test and didn't study hard enough. Not saying the same was true in your case, but I think many college students are looking to cruise through college without putting much effort into it.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: spacelord
I remember an Engineering class in college where the average score was around a 60% for a particular test. The professor gave the entire class an earful. What a crock.. we normally got decent scores. He failed to even think for a second that maybe he didn't teach that section very well.

I had a similar situation where the whole class did poorly and the prof chewed us out, but the problem wasn't that he didn't teach it well, it was that we didn't expect such a difficult test and didn't study hard enough. Not saying the same was true in your case, but I think many college students are looking to cruise through college without putting much effort into it.


yeah, you have two ways to learn.....you can have everything spoon fed to you or you can learn by getting your a$$ kicked. Most professors prefer the latter.
 

spacelord

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: spacelord
I remember an Engineering class in college where the average score was around a 60% for a particular test. The professor gave the entire class an earful. What a crock.. we normally got decent scores. He failed to even think for a second that maybe he didn't teach that section very well.

I had a similar situation where the whole class did poorly and the prof chewed us out, but the problem wasn't that he didn't teach it well, it was that we didn't expect such a difficult test and didn't study hard enough. Not saying the same was true in your case, but I think many college students are looking to cruise through college without putting much effort into it.

Now that I think about it, it was both. The test questions were pretty tough too.. and he expected us all to be able to come up with this advanced solution based on our notes and homework. Even the super brains of the class failed miserably. It probably hurt their mojo more than mine.. since I knew how to play the curve and knew it would all work out in the end.
 

TuxDave

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Meh, it happens. My senior level VLSI class ended up with an average of 33% on the final.
 

Tu13erhead

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
what are you talking about.. my calc class 18% of the people got 100%s... when you go to crazy schools the curve is JACKED UP as crazy. You have your average mainstream people failing then you have your nerdy@$$ engineers and math majors getting A++++++s. Totally kills the curve.

Wow...totally opposite here.