Are these 4890 temps normal? 75C..

[MrMatt]

I have a threat going here asking about my BF2 crashes..someone suggested I find out what my temps are.. so I got HWinfo, and here's what it says, right after a reboot from crash:


GPU Thermal Diode: 66 C
GPU TS0: 65.5
GPU TS1: 76.5
GPU TS2: 71


Are those too hot?

 

[Rifter]

mine was close to 90c when i had it running furmark. It was running at 1000Mhz though but never went into thermal shutdown on me. Would sit around 70-80 gaming. Always stayed below 60c stock clocks but i did remove the heatsink lap it and the GPU and apply AS 5.

 

[happy medium]

no they are good temps for a 4890 at load or playing a game

Edit:if they are idle temps they are way too hot!

What are your temps in msi afterburner? try that program.

 

[RussianSensation]

I have a threat going here asking about my BF2 crashes..someone suggested I find out what my temps are.. so I got HWinfo, and here's what it says, right after a reboot from crash:


GPU Thermal Diode: 66 C
GPU TS0: 65.5
GPU TS1: 76.5
GPU TS2: 71


Are those too hot?

Not even close. I have ran my card at 80*C 24/7 in Milkyway for months when I had it. Something else is causing your crashes.

It could be drivers/os issue, BF:BC2 issue (need a patch?), overclocked cpu, insufficient power supply.

 

[happy medium]

Not even close. I have ran my card at 80*C 24/7 in Milkyway for months when I had it. Something else is causing your crashes.

It could be drivers/os issue, BF:BC2 issue (need a patch?), overclocked cpu, insufficient power supply.

If those are his temps after a reboot,something is wrong. It says after a crash and reboot, so they are idle temps.

 

[MrMatt]

If those are his temps after a reboot,something is wrong. It says after a crash and reboot, so they are idle temps.

I took the side of the case off and it still crashed...BUT it took like 45 minutes instead of like 15....hmmmmm. Those first 2 numbers are idling in the mid 50s, the last two are idling in the mid 60s

 

[Rifter]

Take off the cooler and clean it and the GPU, apply some good thermal compound and re install it. That should help, when i did that to mine there was enough thermal compound on there for 5 heatsinks and i think it was hurting the cooling not helping.

 

[RussianSensation]

Check if the heatsink on the card doesn't have any built-up dust.

 

[netxzero64]

I have a threat going here asking about my BF2 crashes..someone suggested I find out what my temps are.. so I got HWinfo, and here's what it says, right after a reboot from crash:


GPU Thermal Diode: 66 C
GPU TS0: 65.5
GPU TS1: 76.5
GPU TS2: 71


Are those too hot?

no they're not hot... my 4890 is hottest when playing alien swarm at 75c tops, no aircon and i live in a tropical continent and my room is hot most of the time...

@riferut

how's the GTX 460 performing compared to your previous 4890? any tips?

 

[Rifter]

@riferut

how's the GTX 460 performing compared to your previous 4890? any tips?

Well i have not spent alot of time with it gaming yet and its hard to do a direct compare since i was using the 4890 on a AMD platform(PHII 940@3.6) and the 460 on a Intel platform(i7 930@4Ghz) but i will say this:

Anyone who said its a sidegrade is on crack. The 460 hands down beats the 4890 in every game i have tried so far. Overall gaming experience is smoother and minimum fraterate is higher. Games such as ME 2 and farcry 2 where the 4890 would bog down to 25-35fps at some really intense parts the 460 flies through and maintains 50-60fps. Im actually going to post a thread about it late in the week probably friday afer i get some more time into some games, ill make sure to shoot you a pm so you dont miss it.

 

[evolucion8]

Well i have not spent alot of time with it gaming yet and its hard to do a direct compare since i was using the 4890 on a AMD platform(PHII 940@3.6) and the 460 on a Intel platform(i7 930@4Ghz) but i will say this:

Anyone who said its a sidegrade is on crack. The 460 hands down beats the 4890 in every game i have tried so far. Overall gaming experience is smoother and minimum fraterate is higher. Games such as ME 2 and farcry 2 where the 4890 would bog down to 25-35fps at some really intense parts the 460 flies through and maintains 50-60fps. Im actually going to post a thread about it late in the week probably friday afer i get some more time into some games, ill make sure to shoot you a pm so you dont miss it.

In overall, the GTX 460 isn't much faster than the HD 4890, isn't twice faster, in many game scenarios, the HD 4890 is nipping the heels of the GTX 460 768 which isn't much slower than the GTX 460 1GB, but a platform change might had give you more performance. At what resolution were you playing Far Cry 2? I never got such slow downs when I had the single HD 4870 1GB.

 

[Rifter]

In overall, the GTX 460 isn't much faster than the HD 4890, isn't twice faster, in many game scenarios, the HD 4890 is nipping the heels of the GTX 460 768 which isn't much slower than the GTX 460 1GB, but a platform change might had give you more performance. At what resolution were you playing Far Cry 2? I never got such slow downs when I had the single HD 4870 1GB.

Was playing 1920x1080 everything maxed highest settings 4xAA 16xAF, in direct x 10. I found that to be the problem, the 4890 did not do well in FC 2 with DX 10, it did alot better in DX 9. So far the 460(with its OC to 900/1000) is ripping through FC 2 alot better than the 4890 and can even do it with 8xAA, the 4890 was running at 1000/1150 so it was also OC'ed as far as it would go with the stock heatsink/fan.

EDITED TO ADD: I agree the platform swap is also the reason im noticing such a difference in some situations, there is no denying that AMD is behind in clock for clock single threaded performace, and even though games are "multi core capable" or whatever it doesnt mean they are well threaded.

And to the OP i am truly sorry to de-rail your thread.

 

[386DX]

Well i have not spent alot of time with it gaming yet and its hard to do a direct compare since i was using the 4890 on a AMD platform(PHII 940@3.6) and the 460 on a Intel platform(i7 930@4Ghz) but i will say this:

Anyone who said its a sidegrade is on crack. The 460 hands down beats the 4890 in every game i have tried so far. Overall gaming experience is smoother and minimum fraterate is higher. Games such as ME 2 and farcry 2 where the 4890 would bog down to 25-35fps at some really intense parts the 460 flies through and maintains 50-60fps. Im actually going to post a thread about it late in the week probably friday afer i get some more time into some games, ill make sure to shoot you a pm so you dont miss it.

That's a pretty big conclusion based on two games on two significantly different platform. Far Cry 2 isn't exactly the best game to compare performance since its heavily CPU dependent and favours Nvidia GPU's. A 768MB GTX 460 beats a 5850 card in that benchmark... but nobody in there right mind would say that overall the 5850 card is slower. Also a stock i920 (2.66 GHz) is a good 20-25% faster at FC2 then a PII 965 (3.6 GHz), with your 4Ghz OC on your i7 and the Nvidia card its understandable you are seeing a huge performance gain in FC2, but a bit pre-mature to expect the same huge gains in other games.

To OP. My 4890 temps use to be as high as yours so its pretty normal. It wasn't long after that I replaced the heatsink/fan with an Twin Turbo Pro and it made a huge difference in the load temp and more importantly noise department. Temps use to reach over 90C+ running Furbench now its around 75C.

 

[Rifter]

That's a pretty big conclusion based on two games on two significantly different platform. Far Cry 2 isn't exactly the best game to compare performance since its heavily CPU dependent and favours Nvidia GPU's. A 768MB GTX 460 beats a 5850 card in that benchmark... but nobody in there right mind would say that overall the 5850 card is slower. Also a stock i920 (2.66 GHz) is a good 20-25% faster at FC2 then a PII 965 (3.6 GHz), with your 4Ghz OC on your i7 and the Nvidia card its understandable you are seeing a huge performance gain in FC2, but a bit pre-mature to expect the same huge gains in other games.

To OP. My 4890 temps use to be as high as yours so its pretty normal. It wasn't long after that I replaced the heatsink/fan with an Twin Turbo Pro and it made a huge difference in the load temp and more importantly noise department. Temps use to reach over 90C+ running Furbench now its around 75C.

I am aware of that, thats why im going to post a thread about going from a 4890 to a 460 in a week when i get some more gaming time in. And like i said the platform swap im sure has as much to do with it as the GPU swap. I already sent the 4890 back to XFX or i would plug it in and see how it is on the i7 for a direct comparison.

 

[evolucion8]

Was playing 1920x1080 everything maxed highest settings 4xAA 16xAF, in direct x 10. I found that to be the problem, the 4890 did not do well in FC 2 with DX 10, it did alot better in DX 9. So far the 460(with its OC to 900/1000) is ripping through FC 2 alot better than the 4890 and can even do it with 8xAA, the 4890 was running at 1000/1150 so it was also OC'ed as far as it would go with the stock heatsink/fan.

EDITED TO ADD: I agree the platform swap is also the reason im noticing such a difference in some situations, there is no denying that AMD is behind in clock for clock single threaded performace, and even though games are "multi core capable" or whatever it doesnt mean they are well threaded.

And to the OP i am truly sorry to de-rail your thread.

Yeah, for some reason, in Far Cry 2, it runs considerably worse on AMD processors than on equivalent Intel processors, A stock i7 920 soundly beating a Phenom II X4 965, and is a scenario that can't be repeated with other games (Except in ultra high end multi GPU situation and isn't a huge difference) is the game using crippled code for AMD processors? That's another story for another thread The HD 4890 has less current leaking than the HD 4870, so it should run cooler, my HD 4870 CF releases a lot of heat that warms my legs under the desk, I had to put another 120mm fan blowing air inside in the removable left panel of the Antec 900, it decreased my CPU temps by 9C, considering that one of my cards exhausts most of its heat outside, but the Cyclone dumps it in.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Far-Cry-2-1.0.1,1401.html

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,663817/Far-Cry-2-GPU-and-CPU-benchmarks/Reviews/?page=2