Are there religions that are wrong?

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Rio Rebel

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Hmm.

I am Catholic, which I believe is one path among several. I believe it is the closest to the Truth, but not a perfect path and not the only one that leads to God. I believe the other paths also lead to God, but that the Catholic path is the closest thing to a perfect path - which none are.

Now...I can't tell whether I'm lying, confused, or not sure what I believe. :)

 

poop

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Think about it. If you think the path you are taking (Catholocism) is not the only path, then you are more like a Universalist, not a Catholic.

So, lets break this down into simple logic:
A Catholic is a follower of Catholocism. Catholocism teaches that it is the True religion. You claim to be a Catholic. You claim there are multiple paths.

One of the above statements MUST be false for the others to be true. What I mean is, you cannot claim to be Catholic and claim you feel there are multiple paths.
 

poop

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No, but invalid analogies lead nowhere.

If you believe that there are many paths, that is fine and dandy. But that means you must believe that there is not a single path. See what I mean.

I, personally, believe there is no path at all.
 

SecretAgentMan

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Steps to finding a religion:

1. Go to and airport.

2. Wait a while.

3. If previous steps fail, join the movementarians and worship the Leader.
 

~zonker~

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Romans 2:12~16 has a short discourse on people who have not been exposed to the word of God, or the law, and can obtain &quot;righteousness&quot; poop.

People who have been exposed to Christ are made 'righteous' by trusting in Him., or having faith (GAL 2:16, RO 3:22, 5:1)
 

Comp10

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<< If you believe that there are multiple paths, then you don't really believe in any single truth. To believe in a single path is to negate all others. To believe in many paths is to not believe in anything definite at all. >>



<< If you believe that there are many paths, that is fine and dandy. But that means you must believe that there is not a single path. >>

Multiple paths are composed of single truths. To believe in many paths in no way prevents you from beleiving in anything definite. To the contrary by definition it dictates that you must believe in something definite, otherwise there would be nothing to compose your multiple paths from.

<< If a person really believes Jesus is the path, then that person must believe Jesus is the only path. >>


In Mark (at least I think it was Mark) Jesus said to a noble that the way to salvation was through following the commandments, or throwing away all his worldly possesions and following Jesus. So the teachings of Jesus doesn't nessisary dictate that he is the only way to salvation, but it can certianly be interpreted that way if you assume Jesus was using sarcasm in that passage.
 

joohang

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<< Religion is wrong, Faith is correct.. have faith, not religion. >>

Atomicbomberman: I love that quote.

First of all, how does one define &quot;religion&quot;? If you went back 500 years and asked a Hindu what his/her religion was and he/she would answer back saying, &quot;Huh?&quot; Back then, there was no such thing as &quot;Hinduism,&quot; which was a term made up by the British.

To me, the only two of the major world religions that fall in the category of &quot;religion&quot; (in European terms) are Christianity and Islam. I personally find both of them wrong. The religions themselves are not that bad in theory, but I found it sickening (since 5th grade) to read about all the killings and torture caused by these two religions.

I tried going to a Protestant church for a couple of months, but it just wasn't for me.

I am not an atheist, though. I do believe in some supernatural power, however. Does that make me &quot;religious&quot;?

I am very slightly Confucian, slightly Buddhist and partly Taoist. And that reminds me: Most East Asians are slightly Confucian and/or Taoist, believe it or not. It is part of their culture. If a Korean Christian comes up to me and claims that he/she is not Confucian, I'd tell him/her, &quot;You mean you are not Korean?&quot;

I can go on forever on this topic, but it's getting late. So I better stop. :)
 

samarth

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<< Religion is wrong, Faith is correct.. have faith, not religion. >>
True. Just believe in one supreme being and see religion as a persons specific way to reach out to that supreme being.
 

Shalmanese

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There has to be at least one wrong religion as long as there are two or more religions with one claiming a fact and the other claiming the negation of the fact (eg. Jesus is God, Jesus is NOT god) either one or both of those are wrong, the problem is that you do not know which
 

AndrewR

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No one answered my questions above. Chicken? :) I'm interested to see how someone would reconcile those questions with the position that no religions are &quot;wrong&quot;.

poop, it's funny because the the POPE disagrees with you. You know, that guy with the funny hat in Rome? Who is more of an authority on what the Catholic religion holds? You or him?

Rio, the person that explained the Church's position on the matter was a Franciscan. Quite a terrific priest. Most of the other speakers/instuctors have been rather dull, unfortunately. I'm a &quot;cradle Catholic&quot; and went to Catholic high school.
 

Webbed

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Doesn't christianity calls all other religion wrong? That there is only one God and everyone else is praying to lumps of clay? And that everyone is going to Hell unless they become Christians? That's about as wrong as it gets in my books.
 

Zucchini

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&quot;Doesn't christianity calls all other religion wrong? That there is only one God and everyone else is praying to lumps of clay? And that everyone is going to Hell unless they become Christians? That's about as wrong as it gets in my books. &quot;

Not sure if its blatently stated, but it is implied:p
 

classy

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Doesn't christianity calls all other religion wrong? That there is only one God and everyone else is praying to lumps of clay? And that everyone is going to Hell unless they become Christians? That's about as wrong as it gets in my books.

Yea that pretty much sums it up. I believe I am praying to the one and only &quot;true&quot; God. Now if I'm right, every other god is a lie. I find it amazing that anyone can believe that God can be reached by literally hundreds of different beliefs. Allah is very different from Buddah. There is no way that they can be the same. Same with God of the bible. There is virtually no way in the world that the Jesus and God of the Bible are the same as Allah. Only one is true and all others are a farce. Now you can be all sympathetic all you want and try not to hurt peoples feelings, but there is only one God and you better make sure you got the right one. Now if you believe in no God thats as ridiculous to me as people who believe that &quot;One God&quot; set up all these different relgions.
 

Rio Rebel

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You've just turned back to my original point. It's difficult to say WHAT &quot;Christianity claims&quot;. We can read the Bible, but it is usually easy to either interpret differently or come up with passages on the other side.

I don't know the answer to this one. How do we determine the core beliefs of a religion? Do we go by the general consensus of its followers, or its leadership, or some other method?
 

AndrewR

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classy, are you even remotely familiar with the tenets of the Islamic faith? If you sit the beliefs of Islam down with the beliefs of Christianity (the fundamental tenets, not the practices or particular manifestations), they are remarkably similar. Certainly, in practice there are variances just as there are factions within Christianity itself with widely different interpretations (Jesus wasn't divine, Jesus wasn't human, Jesus was both -- for instance, but overall the belief systems do not vary a great deal. I'm dredging up some old knowledge from high school, but I remember being stuck with that impression when I studied Islam.