Are there laptops that will use a desktop SATA drive?

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Just curious, because if I do decide to switch to a laptop as my primary system later this year I'd rather be able to use a 10K RPM drive than a 7200 or God Forbid a 5400. I don't really care about weight or thickness, because hell, even a 15 pound laptop is still a helluva lot more portable than my desktop is :)

Thanks!

Jason
 

Tostada

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Are you serious? Laptops have 2.5" drives that are 9.5mm thick, except the ultra-portable ones which have 1.8" drives that are 8mm thick.

If you want you could get a 2.5" -> 3.5" adapter and a 3.5" -> SATA adapter and then bolt the raptor onto the bottom of your laptop. Maybe someone makes a newer converter that'll let you change laptop SATA to regular SATA on a Sonoma chipset. If you're lucky the laptop might actually have enough Watts to spin up the drive.
 

ND40oz

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Originally posted by: Tostada
Originally posted by: Valkerie
http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.html

These notebooks are sickening...
Easily comparible to Alienware and Falcon's, better for the price in my opinion.

Does this have anything to do with the topic? Sager doesn't have laptops with 10K drives, do they?

Atleast one of their laptops has a spare 3.5" bay that says it takes harddrives. I think he was referring to this one and putting a raptor in it and changing that to your boot drive, but I could be wrong.
 

Valkerie

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Originally posted by: ND40oz
Originally posted by: Tostada
Originally posted by: Valkerie
http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.html

These notebooks are sickening...
Easily comparible to Alienware and Falcon's, better for the price in my opinion.

Does this have anything to do with the topic? Sager doesn't have laptops with 10K drives, do they?

Atleast one of their laptops has a spare 3.5" bay that says it takes harddrives. I think he was referring to this one and putting a raptor in it and changing that to your boot drive, but I could be wrong.

Sager notebooks are easily upgradable. Most of them, if not all, come with an open bay for an extra HD or optical drive (I'd put a floppy in it since some of their notebooks don't come with integrated floppy drives).

Anyway, you want this SCSI controller or something similar:
http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=123921

Then you want to integrate your 2.5 HD @ 10K RPM (74 GB) drive into the HD socket, or you can do it externally. You'll have to do some engineering and run the wires from the PC card into the laptop to connect to the 10k RPM drive if you intend to keep the drive in the extra bay. Or if you're a PC enthusiast, you'll figure out some other way to do this.
http://www.buy.com/retail/techspecs/product.asp?sku=10378845&loc=&PageFormat=8

This HD one is more expensive, but the refurb ones are a little cheaper, refurb 10k's are not worth it, however.

You don't need the external SCSI controller if you get a high end laptop that already offers SCSI connectivity, internally.

Don't limit to Sager notebooks though, they're just one of the few laptops that have extra bays.
 

fbrdphreak

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Originally posted by: Valkerie
Originally posted by: ND40oz
Originally posted by: Tostada
Originally posted by: Valkerie
http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.html

These notebooks are sickening...
Easily comparible to Alienware and Falcon's, better for the price in my opinion.

Does this have anything to do with the topic? Sager doesn't have laptops with 10K drives, do they?

Atleast one of their laptops has a spare 3.5" bay that says it takes harddrives. I think he was referring to this one and putting a raptor in it and changing that to your boot drive, but I could be wrong.

Sager notebooks are easily upgradable. Most of them, if not all, come with an open bay for an extra HD or optical drive (I'd put a floppy in it since some of their notebooks don't come with integrated floppy drives).

Anyway, you want this SCSI controller or something similar:
http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=123921

Then you want to integrate your 2.5 HD @ 10K RPM (74 GB) drive into the HD socket, or you can do it externally. You'll have to do some engineering and run the wires from the PC card into the laptop to connect to the 10k RPM drive if you intend to keep the drive in the extra bay. Or if you're a PC enthusiast, you'll figure out some other way to do this.
http://www.buy.com/retail/techspecs/product.asp?sku=10378845&loc=&PageFormat=8

This HD one is more expensive, but the refurb ones are a little cheaper, refurb 10k's are not worth it, however.

You don't need the external SCSI controller if you get a high end laptop that already offers SCSI connectivity, internally.

Don't limit to Sager notebooks though, they're just one of the few laptops that have extra bays.
Um..........the Raptor he was referring to is SATA; not SCSI. I've never seen a laptop that offers SCSI. What in the world are you talking about? :confused:
 
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Originally posted by: Tostada
Are you serious? Laptops have 2.5" drives that are 9.5mm thick, except the ultra-portable ones which have 1.8" drives that are 8mm thick.

If you want you could get a 2.5" -> 3.5" adapter and a 3.5" -> SATA adapter and then bolt the raptor onto the bottom of your laptop. Maybe someone makes a newer converter that'll let you change laptop SATA to regular SATA on a Sonoma chipset. If you're lucky the laptop might actually have enough Watts to spin up the drive.

LOL, yes I know :) That's why I was asking if anyone made such a beast, heh. As for "laptop Sata to regular Sata", my friend, Sata is Sata. The connector might be different, the standard is the same.

Jason
 
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Originally posted by: Valkerie
Originally posted by: ND40oz
Originally posted by: Tostada
Originally posted by: Valkerie
http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.html

These notebooks are sickening...
Easily comparible to Alienware and Falcon's, better for the price in my opinion.

Does this have anything to do with the topic? Sager doesn't have laptops with 10K drives, do they?

Atleast one of their laptops has a spare 3.5" bay that says it takes harddrives. I think he was referring to this one and putting a raptor in it and changing that to your boot drive, but I could be wrong.

Sager notebooks are easily upgradable. Most of them, if not all, come with an open bay for an extra HD or optical drive (I'd put a floppy in it since some of their notebooks don't come with integrated floppy drives).

Anyway, you want this SCSI controller or something similar:
http://www.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?iid=123921

Then you want to integrate your 2.5 HD @ 10K RPM (74 GB) drive into the HD socket, or you can do it externally. You'll have to do some engineering and run the wires from the PC card into the laptop to connect to the 10k RPM drive if you intend to keep the drive in the extra bay. Or if you're a PC enthusiast, you'll figure out some other way to do this.
http://www.buy.com/retail/techspecs/product.asp?sku=10378845&loc=&PageFormat=8

This HD one is more expensive, but the refurb ones are a little cheaper, refurb 10k's are not worth it, however.

You don't need the external SCSI controller if you get a high end laptop that already offers SCSI connectivity, internally.

Don't limit to Sager notebooks though, they're just one of the few laptops that have extra bays.

While I am sure this could be made to work, I don't know if I have ever seen a laptop with SCSI, nor do I want to use SCSI.

Thanks though!

Jason
 

Jassi

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How are you going to power that bad boy? Its gonna need a lot of juice, probably more than your laptop's adapter can handle without over heating.
 

Tostada

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
As for "laptop Sata to regular Sata", my friend, Sata is Sata. The connector might be different, the standard is the same.

Jason

That's a silly thing to say. You could just as easily say "IDE is IDE," but you still need a 2.5" -> 3.5" converter to hook a laptop drive up to a PC.
 

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Build a SFF and bolt a LCD to it ;)

j/k lol. Though it might not be a bad idear...
 
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Originally posted by: Tostada
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
As for "laptop Sata to regular Sata", my friend, Sata is Sata. The connector might be different, the standard is the same.

Jason

That's a silly thing to say. You could just as easily say "IDE is IDE," but you still need a 2.5" -> 3.5" converter to hook a laptop drive up to a PC.

That doesn't make it silly, the fact remains that Sata is Sata, pure and simple. I'm talking about the *specification*, not the little plastic and metal ocnnector.

Jason
 
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Originally posted by: ariafrost
Build a SFF and bolt a LCD to it ;)

j/k lol. Though it might not be a bad idear...

I've been giving the idea some thought about building my own, but the trouble is that any mobo with integrated graphics sucks (at least in terms of graphics).

Eh, I suppose it doesn't matter for a bit anyway, as it will be the end of the year or so before I can really afford to do it :)

Jason
 

Tostada

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Tostada
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
As for "laptop Sata to regular Sata", my friend, Sata is Sata. The connector might be different, the standard is the same.

Jason

That's a silly thing to say. You could just as easily say "IDE is IDE," but you still need a 2.5" -> 3.5" converter to hook a laptop drive up to a PC.

That doesn't make it silly, the fact remains that Sata is Sata, pure and simple. I'm talking about the *specification*, not the little plastic and metal ocnnector.

Jason

You're not making sense, and you seem confused about the word "specification." The little plastic connector is part of the specification, and after looking into it, the only reason you can say "SATA is SATA" is because of the connector specifications. It dictates that the combined signal and power segments of the connector will be 42.73mm wide, 4.00mm tall and 4.90mm deep whether it's a 2.5", 3.5" or 5.25" drive.

All you need to find is a Sonoma laptop with a 3.5" drive bay. Sager/Clevo/Acer had old laptops (no SATA) with 3.5" desktop drives. We're talking 14.1 lb. laptops that last 1 hour on a 12-cell battery.
 

dannybek2

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I remember recently reading somewhere about an new Acer with an 3.5 HDD. You might want to search for that.