Are there any Rock Stars left?

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I wasn't implying otherwise sorry, just trying to change gears a bit. I think that bands who create amazing music and aren't an in your face archetype are far more interesting.

Unfortunately I'll have to disagree about MGMT after their latest album.

I fell asleep to MGMTs new album, but they were trendsetters - Phoenix, et el owe alot of their sound to MGMT.
 
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I've seen the YYY's a few times and Karen O just oozes the old time rockstar/punk lifestyle.

I saw Muse at Coachella and damn if they aren't rock stars. I'm not a fan but it seemed like the entire audience knew all the words.

I would say Beth Ditto, but not so much. She puts on a hell of a show (saw at Coachella too) but I see her more of an entertainer.

Hell yeah- saw YYY with Sonic Youth and that was the glaring difference - both very talented but Karen O tore up the stage. Beth Ditto can be a rock star, I think.. But I think she can give up the band and be one hell of a pop star, she has the attitude but you're right in that she's an all around entertainer
 

Platypus

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I fell asleep to MGMTs new album, but they were trendsetters - Phoenix, et el owe alot of their sound to MGMT.

Phoenix easily pre-dates MGMT as does Hot Chip.

The only thing MGMT has done is increased the ultra pretentious bullshit single serving music market. Their first album wasn't great but it was full of fun catchy dance tunes. IMO of course.
 

Kadarin

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how do you define "rock star?" I'd never throw Jay Z into that category.

Yeah, the thought of calling Jay Z a "rock star" made me LOL. The fact that anyone would even think of putting him in that category pretty much illustrates the idea that rock as a genre has morphed into something far less than what it once was.

Back in the day, true rock stars would have been people like:

David Lee Roth
Sammy Hagar
Axl Rose
Freddie Mercury
Ozzie Osbourne
Steven Tyler
 
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Phoenix easily pre-dates MGMT as does Hot Chip.

The only thing MGMT has done is increased the ultra pretentious bullshit single serving music market. Their first album wasn't great but it was full of fun catchy dance tunes. IMO of course.

Never cared enough about Phoenix to check out their discography, but you're absolutely right- they came first. Wolfgang.. Phoenix just sounded a lot like MGMT's Oracle, which is a good album full of good hooks.. I never viewed them as ultra pretentious, and kinda thought Oracle was the opposite of pretentious (it was goofy to me in the same way The Scissor Sister's good album was). What I like about the Brooklyn scene is the return to fun and the dash of Americana, vs. what I view as pretentious post-Grunge/indie.
 

Platypus

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Never cared enough about Phoenix to check out their discography, but you're absolutely right- they came first. Wolfgang.. Phoenix just sounded a lot like MGMT's Oracle, which is a good album full of good hooks.. I never viewed them as ultra pretentious, and kinda thought Oracle was the opposite of pretentious (it was goofy to me in the same way The Scissor Sister's good album was). What I like about the Brooklyn scene is the return to fun and the dash of Americana, vs. what I view as pretentious post-Grunge/indie.

The pretentious comment was mainly for the new record. Their first album was fun, they didn't seem to take themselves too seriously. It wasn't blow away but it was refreshing. Their new one is just... wow there are no words. They make The Decemberists look modest in comparison to how seriously they take themselves.

What other Brooklyn area stuff are you digging right now?
 
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True, though indie/college radio rock has been around forever, I guess the business model just changed.

Yikes, by my definition I guess the Jonas Brothers are the last rock stars.. Luckily they're fading away, Justin Bieber taking up the job of making 9 year old girls we... Never mind.

jonass bros?? rock stars?? NEGATIVE

Rock star =
Jimmy Page
Eric Clapton
Stevie Ray Vaughan
dare I say Madonna
Prince
Davey Knowles
Dan Auerbach
Dave Grohl
John Mayer



Rock Star <>
jonas brothers
miley cyruss (or whatever the fuck it is)
britney spears
anything from this this cesspool of crap
 

gorcorps

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No mention of Maynard/Tool yet? I'd say they qualify, even at the rate of two albums per decade.

Nope, sorry. I love some Tool/APC, but he just doesn't say 'rock star' to me. That's probably a good thing though because rock stars have an in your face LOOK AT ME attitude that I can't stand. Part of the reason I like Maynard is because of that.
 

Ns1

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Nope, sorry. I love some Tool/APC, but he just doesn't say 'rock star' to me. That's probably a good thing though because rock stars have an in your face LOOK AT ME attitude that I can't stand. Part of the reason I like Maynard is because of that.

he doesn't have the LOOK AT ME attitude, he has the "pretentious I'm an ass and I don't give a fuck because I am a rockstar" attitude.

Maynard+James+Keenan+MAYNARD.jpg


rockstar
 

Turin39789

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Hank Williams
Tom Waits
Johnny Cash
Willie Nelson
Zepplin
Ray Charles
Floyd


New guy -
William Elliot Whitmore
 

preCRT

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Yeah, the thought of calling Jay Z a "rock star" made me LOL. The fact that anyone would even think of putting him in that category pretty much illustrates the idea that rock as a genre has morphed into something far less than what it once was.

Back in the day, true rock stars would have been people like:

David Lee Roth
Sammy Hagar
Axl Rose
Freddie Mercury
Ozzie Osbourne
Steven Tyler

plus:
Jimi Hendrix
Janis Joplin
Eric Clapton
 

BurnItDwn

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*laughs* they were a fad that got popular and died in under a year

Ehhh ... He's been pretty much a shredding god since his days in Demoniac, to when he joined Dragonheart, to more recently when they renamed Dragonforce ...
 
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What other Brooklyn area stuff are you digging right now?

I love the Antlers, TV on the Radio, Grizzly Bear...Vampire Weekend.. I forget if Radio 4 is Brooklyn or not, but they're very New York. Chairlift is kinda one hit wondery to me but people like them (song recently used in an apple commercial), vivian girls