I agree , also are almost useless on a normal road bike , that kind of rotor are born for off-road bike .... after some years they are also used on road race-bike.
I agree , also are almost useless on a normal road bike , that kind of rotor are born for off-road bike .... after some years they are also used on road race-bike.
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The HondaMatic!Originally posted by: Roger
My nieghbor down the street has a Honds 600 or 750 with a two speed auto, I laughed my a$$ off the first time I saw it
ZV
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
The HondaMatic!Originally posted by: Roger
My nieghbor down the street has a Honds 600 or 750 with a two speed auto, I laughed my a$$ off the first time I saw it
ZV
Yeah the Hondamatic, but I think they were 450s. I don't think the trans would handle a 750!
JC
How does shifting work on a bike? I hear you don't have to use the clutch? How does that work?
And you push the pedal down to downshift and up to upshift right?
And you push the pedal down to downshift and up to upshift right?
ive never hit neutral when i shift without the clutch (it maybe some safty thing) yet i have hit i getting on the bike really hard and nothing is more embarising then a crotch rocket missing a gear and all you hear is wrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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As has been pointed out, the Ridley, and perhaps one or two others exist. None really proved reliable (at least I never heard of one as good as usual).
Being lazy on a motorcycle is a pretty good sign you are going to get in trouble. Shifting requries minimal concentration compared to the other skills you need.
Auto tranny?
As Mr Horse says... "No sir, I didn't like it"
Being lazy on a motorcycle is a pretty good sign you are going to get in trouble. Shifting requries minimal concentration compared to the other skills you need.
Auto tranny?
As Mr Horse says... "No sir, I didn't like it"
I used to own a Hondamatic 400 and a 750, the 400 sucked, the 750 was a great little bike. It didn't have the same pickup as a bike with gears, but is did cruise and it was fun to ride. Everyone who rode bikes where I come from (most of my friends) laughed when they saw it, but every one of them liked it after they tried it out. You can find them on Ebay for around $1000.00, I would guess that they will be a collector's item someday, Honda only made them for 2 years (77 and 78 I think, but I might be mistaken). The transmission worked with the foot pedal, you could put it in 1st gear and get a little extra speed on takeoff, then switch up to second gear (no clutch at all, feels kind of weird when you first ride it). Or, you can just keep it in second and take off, it's like riding a big moped or something.
I've never ridden, but I thought that from first, it clicks THROUGH neutral in one single upward motion, so from first, when you pull up on the lever, it goes "click-click," through neutral before you release the lever, whereas from 2nd to 3rd it only goes "click." On the 1-2, if you release the lever at the first "click," THEN you end up in neutral.
Am I right?
I've also heard that if you actually care about the bike and want it to last, you'll always use the clutch for shifting.
If all you have to do was wait through that extra click, biking doesn't seem so challanging....where is the cluctch?
<--bike noob
UP, UP, UP!
Somebody please answer our bike NooB questions!
(I know the clutch is operated with the left hand lever.)
Somebody please answer our bike NooB questions!
(I know the clutch is operated with the left hand lever.)
Since no one else seems to be closing this out, one firm upward stroke (oh, that sounds good!) goes from first to second. There is a "click" or detent that is passed through which is neutral. If you stop when you hit this spot (sometimes it's really hard to stop!!) you will be in neutral. Most bikes are harder to shift into neutral when stopped, so it's best to hit neutral while still rolling.
Clutchless shifting - most bikes have constant mesh transmissions. As long as you roll off the throttle carefully, shifting without the clutch is no more wearing than using the clutch. Because of the rotating mass of the transmission and the wet clutch behavior, shifting at the wrong shift points is tough on the transmission, even when using the clutch. Full throttle shifts without the clutch are possible but not recommended. However, you don't need to fully pull the clutch lever, you can just fan it and take enough pressure off the transmission to shift quickly and smoothly.
A lot of this depends on the bike. Transmissions are very different.
Clutchless shifting - most bikes have constant mesh transmissions. As long as you roll off the throttle carefully, shifting without the clutch is no more wearing than using the clutch. Because of the rotating mass of the transmission and the wet clutch behavior, shifting at the wrong shift points is tough on the transmission, even when using the clutch. Full throttle shifts without the clutch are possible but not recommended. However, you don't need to fully pull the clutch lever, you can just fan it and take enough pressure off the transmission to shift quickly and smoothly.
A lot of this depends on the bike. Transmissions are very different.
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