are the opteron 165s still the bee's knees?

[crazycarl]

are they still the dual core chip to get for overclocking?
i'm also open to single cores if there's anything besides the 'obvious' 3200 venice to go after...

 

[bjc112]

"Bee's Knee's"??

 

[DeathReborn]

Originally posted by: bjc112
"Bee's Knee's"??

(Phrase Origins)

A bee's "corbiculae", or pollen-baskets, are located on its
tibiae (midsegments of its legs). The phrase "the bee's knees",
meaning "the height of excellence", became popular in the U.S. in
the 1920s, along with "the cat's whiskers" (possibly from the use
of these in radio crystal sets), "the cat's pajamas" (pyjamas were
still new enough to be daring), and similar phrases which made less
sense and didn't endure: "the eel's ankle", "the elephant's
instep", "the snake's hip". Stories in circulation about the
phrase's origin include: "b's and e's", short for "be-alls and
end-alls"; and a corruption of "business".


My CCBWE 0534SPMW Opteron 165 oc's to 2.8 (1.5v) but I didn't push it any higher than that. I don't know about the current crop of opterons but 06xx X2's are overclocking well.

 

[peleejosh]

actually some of the newer 165's are clocking quiet well.
The CCBBE 0610DPMW 2.8-2.9

 

[Kaido]

Yeah 165s or 170s. I almost went with a 170 but I got a much better deal on a 165 that was pre-tested past 2.6ghz. See if you can find one with a good stepping before buying. If you want to do luck of the draw, you can pick up 165s for under $280 on Monarch.

 

[crazycarl]

is there any way of determining stepping before buying new?
i mean are there stores that will sell certain guranteed steppings or should i be looking on the used market?

 

[starwars7]

mine seems nice. I'm just using stock voltage and cooler, I'm at 2.5 GHz, dual prime stable for 8+ hours.

 

[Aluvus]

Originally posted by: crazycarl
is there any way of determining stepping before buying new?
i mean are there stores that will sell certain guranteed steppings or should i be looking on the used market?

Newegg sometimes lists steppings, and always lists OPNs. You can take the OPN and search for it here to find the stepping. Newegg lists different steppings separately.

 

[crazycarl]

Originally posted by: Aluvus

Originally posted by: crazycarl
is there any way of determining stepping before buying new?
i mean are there stores that will sell certain guranteed steppings or should i be looking on the used market?

Newegg sometimes lists steppings, and always lists OPNs. You can take the OPN and search for it here to find the stepping. Newegg lists different steppings separately.

thanks for the link. the only stepping info i'm getting off the 165 OPN is 'E6' which doesn't seem to match any part of info from anyone's info in their sig...

 

[peleejosh]

new egg wont give stepping. dave @ flickerdown.com will. and tankguys does also.

 

[DeathReborn]

Originally posted by: crazycarl
is there any way of determining stepping before buying new?
i mean are there stores that will sell certain guranteed steppings or should i be looking on the used market?

I know of at least one that lists some steppings. Tankguys

 

[Absolute0]

0608MPMW and 0610DPMW both good...

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: Kaido
If you want to do luck of the draw, you can pick up 165s for under $280 on Monarch.

Monarch is selling them for $327 the last time I checked.

 

[PClark99]

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1

Originally posted by: Kaido
If you want to do luck of the draw, you can pick up 165s for under $280 on Monarch.

Monarch is selling them for $327 the last time I checked.

I just got my OEM 165 today.

Total was $276.25 with 2 day shipping.

 

[crazycarl]

Originally posted by: PClark99

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1

Originally posted by: Kaido
If you want to do luck of the draw, you can pick up 165s for under $280 on Monarch.

Monarch is selling them for $327 the last time I checked.

I just got my OEM 165 today.

Total was $276.25 with 2 day shipping.

what stepping did you get?
i am really thinking of picking that up; the coupon code makes an awesome deal

 

[lopri]

As time goes by OC'ing will be naturally harder, unless a corporate-level marketing strategy gets involved. Why? Because with maturing manufacturing comes improved binning.

 

[TrevorRC]

Originally posted by: lopri
As time goes by OC'ing will be naturally harder, unless a corporate-level marketing strategy gets involved. Why? Because with maturing manufacturing comes improved binning.

Unless they leave headroom in the process to compete with later market offerings

 

[Boom782]

How did you get it for $267? I also see $327.

 

[Boom782]

nm, found the coupon

 

[OvErHeAtInG]

Originally posted by: PClark99

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1

Originally posted by: Kaido
If you want to do luck of the draw, you can pick up 165s for under $280 on Monarch.

Monarch is selling them for $327 the last time I checked.

I just got my OEM 165 today.

Total was $276.25 with 2 day shipping.

Wow :shocked: that's less than what I got mine for last fall...

 

[PClark99]

Originally posted by: crazycarl

Originally posted by: PClark99

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1

Originally posted by: Kaido
If you want to do luck of the draw, you can pick up 165s for under $280 on Monarch.

Monarch is selling them for $327 the last time I checked.

I just got my OEM 165 today.

Total was $276.25 with 2 day shipping.

what stepping did you get?
i am really thinking of picking that up; the coupon code makes an awesome deal

I received a CCBBE 0610DPMW. FTW

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: TrevorRC

Originally posted by: lopri
As time goes by OC'ing will be naturally harder, unless a corporate-level marketing strategy gets involved. Why? Because with maturing manufacturing comes improved binning.

Unless they leave headroom in the process to compete with later market offerings

But what if yeilds are SO good that almost all processors hit the high end mark?

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: wizboy11

Originally posted by: TrevorRC

Originally posted by: lopri
As time goes by OC'ing will be naturally harder, unless a corporate-level marketing strategy gets involved. Why? Because with maturing manufacturing comes improved binning.

Unless they leave headroom in the process to compete with later market offerings

But what if yeilds are SO good that almost all processors hit the high end mark?

That's another possibility for sure. But I'd think at that point AMD would be better off lowering the prices of their line up and pushing higher model # out. (and phasing out the low tier chips) People will be happier to pay less money for higher-grade chips.

Either way it's the same thing and I surely hope the prices will go down so we all can afford to have a 3.0GHz dualies.