Are sanctuary cities/states traitors to the union?

[Humpy]

Prohibiting gay marriage violates the 14th amendment and is therefore illegal.
Electing to not enforce federal law with state resources doesn't.

There is no federal law that mandates states to issue marriage licenses.

The constitution, which is binding on states as well as the federal government, requires states that issue marriage licenses to do so equally.

Meaning that's what the Constitution says from a legal sense.

There is not a federal statute, there is the Constitution. All states are bound to uphold the Constitution, therefore all states that issue marriage licenses must do so equally as they cannot violate the Constitution. There is no such constitutional mandate to enforce federal statutes, so states don't need to do so.

End of story.

I'm glad there is someone here to explain this stuff.

 

[boomerang]

Hillary is against Sanctuary Cities now which is a 180 from her prior position, so there's that. But to answer the OP's question, Sanctuary cities willfully allow illegal aliens to evade federal immigration laws. What these cities are doing is therefor illegal because harboring fugitives is a crime.

It's not a complex issue. It's quite simple.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...y-cities-in-illegal-immigration-bill-n2022658

 

[boomerang]

so what if states decided they didnt want to follow federal law on something like gay marriage?

Oklahoma is leaving the ten commandments in place. They told the state supreme court to fuck off. The rule of law is an anachronism that harkens back to the days when old white men ruled the nation. The nation is heading in a new direction led by our leader Barack Obama. He has set the tone and others are following suit. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Rules are meant to be broken. Let anarchy rein.

 

[Moonbeam]

Hillary is against Sanctuary Cities now which is a 180 from her prior position, so there's that. But to answer the OP's question, Sanctuary cities willfully allow illegal aliens to evade federal immigration laws. What these cities are doing is therefor illegal because harboring fugitives is a crime.

It's not a complex issue. It's quite simple.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...y-cities-in-illegal-immigration-bill-n2022658

You are just simple minded so everything is simple to you. It's always CBD whatever you think is so:

In the real world harboring a fugitive and providing sanctuary are different things. The federal statute, 18 U.S.C. § 1071, requires proof of four elements: (1) proof that a federal warrant had been issued for the fugitive' s arrest, (2) that the accused had knowledge that a warrant had been issued, (3) that the accused actually harbored or concealed the fugitive, and (4) that the accused intended to prevent the fugitive' s discovery or arrest.

Local authorities determine how to spend their crime dollars.

 

[nickqt]

Oklahoma is leaving the ten commandments in place. They told the state supreme court to fuck off. The rule of law is an anachronism that harkens back to the days when old white men ruled the nation. The nation is heading in a new direction led by our leader Barack Obama. He has set the tone and others are following suit. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Rules are meant to be broken. Let anarchy rein.

Holy shit are you amazingly stupid.

More batshit insane racist comments like these, please.

 

[Moonbeam]

Oklahoma is leaving the ten commandments in place. They told the state supreme court to fuck off. The rule of law is an anachronism that harkens back to the days when old white men ruled the nation. The nation is heading in a new direction led by our leader Barack Obama. He has set the tone and others are following suit. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Rules are meant to be broken. Let anarchy rein.

Your mental state is anarchy. Not to put too fine a point on it, but you're a nut case.

 

[werepossum]

I think sanctuary cities/states should be barred from receiving any federal money, but "traitors to the union" is a bit harsh. Nonetheless, it matters not a whit in this case. Obama has decided not to enforce immigration law, so if Sanfrancisco had turned this murderer in then either he would have been mailed a deport-thyself letter and the imaginary deportation meter incremented, or he would have been physically removed and been back in the country within days. If the President decides that we shouldn't have borders, then effectively we don't have borders until we get a new President with a different mindset. Until then we are simply a world province with limited autonomy, with no authority to prevent anyone from entering or residing here.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think sanctuary cities/states should be barred from receiving any federal money, but "traitors to the union" is a bit harsh. Nonetheless, it matters not a whit in this case. Obama has decided not to enforce immigration law, so if Sanfrancisco had turned this murderer in then either he would have been mailed a deport-thyself letter and the imaginary deportation meter incremented, or he would have been physically removed and been back in the country within days. If the President decides that we shouldn't have borders, then effectively we don't have borders until we get a new President with a different mindset. Until then we are simply a world province with limited autonomy, with no authority to prevent anyone from entering or residing here.

I believe if you check, you will find that Republicans blocked immigration reform.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I hope her family sues San Fransisco and wins. I think they should receive no less than 50 million.

 

[theeedude]

I hope her family sues San Fransisco and wins. I think they should receive no less than 50 million.

LOL. Yeah, good luck with that. Maybe sue the gun manufacturer while they are at it.

 

[Moonbeam]

I hope her family sues San Fransisco and wins. I think they should receive no less than 50 million.

I think that after what San Francisco has done for gay rights they deserve it, unless of course, they are as right about sanctuary as they were on gay rights. When you come to San Francisco, be sure and wear some flowers in your hair.

 

[Jaskalas]

Hillary is against Sanctuary Cities now which is a 180 from her prior position, so there's that.

Hillary will say whatever is convenient for today. She will campaign for amnesty like 90% of the other elected officials. Her desire is a sanctuary nation.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

LOL. Yeah, good luck with that. Maybe sue the gun manufacturer while they are at it.

San Fransisco released this person instead of turning him over to the Immigration & Customs Enforcement personnel for deportation (yet again) therefore their negligence directly resulted in her death.

 

[werepossum]

I believe if you check, you will find that Republicans blocked immigration reform.

LMAO!

Yes, Republicans blocked "immigration reform." Explain to me how letting him legally stay keeps him out.

 

[First]

Wrong again.

-KeithP

Nope, that's true.

 

[DrDoug]

Oklahoma is leaving the ten commandments in place. They told the state supreme court to fuck off. The rule of law is an anachronism that harkens back to the days when old white men ruled the nation. The nation is heading in a new direction led by our leader Barack Obama. He has set the tone and others are following suit. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Rules are meant to be broken. Let anarchy rein.

According to you, everything is the fault of Obama and/or the Democrats. Even stuff the Republicans do, like breaking the law in Oklahoma, is the fault of Obama. It's the old "Devil made me do it" excuse. You are making up excuses for the inexcusable actions of the politicians whose balls you wash and worship.

You are a fucking nutjob.

 

[boomerang]

According to you, everything is the fault of Obama and/or the Democrats. Even stuff the Republicans do, like breaking the law in Oklahoma, is the fault of Obama. It's the old "Devil made me do it" excuse. You are making up excuses for the inexcusable actions of the politicians whose balls you wash and worship.

You are a fucking nutjob.

So, you don't support the actions of sanctuary cities that lead to the murder of people like Kate Steinle?

Oh, and you put a whole lot of words in my mouth. Is it typical for you to attribute your thoughts to others?

 

[boomerang]

LMAO!

Yes, Republicans blocked "immigration reform." Explain to me how letting him legally stay keeps him out.

That's the official excuse coming out of the mouth of Josh Earnest. It's the same song and dance we've heard for the entire time Obama has been in the White House. It's the political equivalent of a wife beater who blames his actions on the woman he just beat up.

 

[werepossum]

That's the official excuse coming out of the mouth of Josh Earnest. It's the same song and dance we've heard for the entire time Obama has been in the White House. It's the political equivalent of a wife beater who blames his actions on the woman he just beat up.

Yep.

 

[brycejones]

LOL. Yeah, good luck with that. Maybe sue the gun manufacturer while they are at it.

And where the ammo was purchased. How about the mine where the ore was mined that made the steel for the gun?

 

[brycejones]

San Fransisco released this person instead of turning him over to the Immigration & Customs Enforcement personnel for deportation (yet again) therefore their negligence directly resulted in her death.

Good luck with that theory.

 

[MongGrel]

I'm still wonder where this Sanctuary City buzz phrase has come from these days.

Even when I lived in the Midwest prior to 1990 there were migrant camps all over doing field work that were known.

Some people I knew at the time even ran stores for them and extended credit to help them out actually.

Was more or less like a modern day Deadwood, without the killing.

It's not like migrant workers etc haven't been doing things on a regular basis is a new thing.

Many have been doing it decades almost like a band touring clubs, or workers that sign on for cruise ship work.

A lot of the world in general do that, I haven't been on a cruise in awhile but you see various nationalities of people on a lot of cruise ships working in several specific areas on some cruise ships.

I almost seems some countries specialize in what area of the ship they work in a lot of the time.

 

[Moonbeam]

LMAO!

Yes, Republicans blocked "immigration reform." Explain to me how letting him legally stay keeps him out.

For me to "EXPLAIN" that to YOU would require that I reduce you to a quivering mass of protoplasm whose sole purpose in life would be to walk around talking to walls. Explanations require the capacity to reason which in turn requires a functioning brain, not one kept in an iron box. For me to o break that box would leave you screaming in pain. You would also have to pay me just as I had to pay. You have to have some inkling of how much you are worth. In my case it was a lot.

PS: If you are going to laugh your ass off, you better get started because you've got a lot of laughing to do.

 

[werepossum]

For me to "EXPLAIN" that to YOU would require that I reduce you to a quivering mass of protoplasm whose sole purpose in life would be to walk around talking to walls. Explanations require the capacity to reason which in turn requires a functioning brain, not one kept in an iron box. For me to o break that box would leave you screaming in pain. You would also have to pay me just as I had to pay. You have to have some inkling of how much you are worth. In my case it was a lot.

PS: If you are going to laugh your ass off, you better get started because you've got a lot of laughing to do.

Already started laughing, and might I suggest you should have paid a little longer.

Okay, a LOT longer. Doesn't seem to be much to you anymore but trumpeting your supposed mental superiority. Turning your psychosis into a superiority complex isn't curing it, it's just adding one more asshole to a world already reeking of butt.

 

[boomerang]

I hope her family sues San Fransisco and wins. I think they should receive no less than 50 million.

The city will pay it gladly would be my guess. And there will be no change in their position on harboring illegals. It's important to do what is "right" even if it is wrong.

This scumbucket was deported five times already. While here, he committed seven felonies. Now, the taxpayers will get to pay to defend him on a murder charge to further add to the legal costs they have incurred on his behalf. If found guilty, he will become yet another illegal taking up space and resources in our prison system. Three hots and a cot along with clothing and medical care for the rest of his days. And this case is far from being an isolated incident.

Hillary, Feinstein and Boxer have declared that he should have been deported this last time. The sixth time is what, the charm? Deportations have no value without a secure border and this murdering piece of shit is living breathing proof.

There is no logic in the methodologies of the progressive left. When, if ever will we put a stop to it?