Are P67 & H67 enough to put you off the unlocked i5-2500K SB?

[bupkus]

Are P67 & H67 enough to put you off the unlocked i5-2500K SB or even SB altogether?

Would Z68 with its expected versatility reverse that or by then would Bulldozer make the point moot?

Edit: Sorry... fixed.

 

[mnewsham]

Are P67 & H67 enough to put you off the unlocked i5-2500K SB or even SB altogether?

Would X67 with its expected versatility reverse that or by then would Bulldozer make the point moot?

Do you mean Z68 chipset?

 

[Patrick Wolf]

It's Z68, not X67. No one knows anything about BD yet. Personally I don't need to upgrade so I can wait for Z68 as it may bring more features than just overclocking + on-die GPU usage.

 

[bupkus]

I got a 2500K last week at MC. I didn't learn about the chipset limits until after my purchase. Now I'm trying to decide the wisdom of keeping it and waiting for X68. I need to decide before my 30 days return option expires.

 

[Battoe]

What's wrong with P67 and H67? 95+% of the time someone who uses an IGP doesn't overclock, and 95+% of people who overclock will use a discreet GPU. I'd like to be able to use the IGP for video transcoding, but it's not even close to a dealbreaker for 99% of that 95+% I'm sure (including me).

EDIT: Sounds like you should have just done a bit more research before making an impulse purchase.

 

[Dribble]

As far as I can tell all Z68 really allows you to do on top of a P67 is o/c your naff intel IGP. Who's going to care about that?

P67 allows for o/c cpu + memory, that's all that is needed for 99.9% of sandy bridge overclockers I would have thought.

 

[Martimus]

May I ask what the issues with P67 and H67 are? I was planning on buying a 2600K with a P67 MB within the next two months, but hearing that the chipset might be borked is making me wonder the wisdom of such an action. I really need to update though, I am still using a S939 computer!

 

[jihe]

May I ask what the issues with P67 and H67 are? I was planning on buying a 2600K with a P67 MB within the next two months, but hearing that the chipset might be borked is making me wonder the wisdom of such an action. I really need to update though, I am still using a S939 computer!

P67 cannot use the IGP

 

[mnewsham]

I cant understand why this would be a deal breaker for people. If you want to do your video work, get H67 and use the IGP, if you want to do gaming get P67 use a discrete card and OC.

 

[Martimus]

P67 cannot use the IGP

Ok, thanks. I did know that, I just figured there was something else with the chipset that made it unnappealling. I would prefer the ability to use the IGP for troubleshooting issues with the Video Card if I ever needed to, but not being able to isn't a deal breaker for me right now. Was there any other major issue with the chipset? I am noticing that most boards only have 2 USB 3.0 connections, with most being USB 2.0. That is the thing that is giving me pause at the moment, along with the fact that the MBs are about $50 more expensive than a similarly featured AMD MB.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

It's a deal breaker because I'd like to be able to use igp in between my graphic card changes or in the event my video card goes out. If I decide to sell my gtx 480 at least I have the option of integrated graphics till I buy another card or while waiting for my new card to come in.

 

[Daedalus685]

For casual users like most of my family p67 and h67 are perfectly fine chip sets. I'd have no issue with p67 either if I didn't care about PCIx lanes as much as I do.

 

[Battoe]

Ok, thanks. I did know that, I just figured there was something else with the chipset that made it unnappealling. I would prefer the ability to use the IGP for troubleshooting issues with the Video Card if I ever needed to, but not being able to isn't a deal breaker for me right now. Was there any other major issue with the chipset? I am noticing that most boards only have 2 USB 3.0 connections, with most being USB 2.0. That is the thing that is giving me pause at the moment, along with the fact that the MBs are about $50 more expensive than a similarly featured AMD MB.

You can add USB 3.0 slots fairly cheaply if you really ever find you need more than 2.

It's a deal breaker because I'd like to be able to use igp in between my graphic card changes or in the event my video card goes out. If I decide to sell my gtx 480 at least I have the option of integrated graphics till I buy another card or while waiting for my new card to come in.

Wait for the new card to come in before selling the old one...

 

[mnewsham]

It's a deal breaker because I'd like to be able to use igp in between my graphic card changes or in the event my video card goes out. If I decide to sell my gtx 480 at least I have the option of integrated graphics till I buy another card or while waiting for my new card to come in.

Get an H67 board... just because IGP is enabled doesn't mean you cant use a discreet card All it means is you cant OC but no one NEEDS to OC anyway.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Wait for the new card to come in before selling the old one...

I have a laptop and another desktop I can game on. Maybe right now my current card is at it's max value I could sell it and wait a month for the new release and pick up a better card for not much difference and still be able to use my current desktop. If I would of waited for the new card release I'm out money because my current card has dropped in value.

 

[mnewsham]

I have a laptop and another desktop I can game on. Maybe right now my current card is at it's max value I could sell it and wait a month for the new release and pick up a better card for not much difference and still be able to use my current desktop. If I would of waited for the new card release I'm out money because my current card has dropped in value.

That's why i keep an extra, i have a 5750 laying around in case a card goes bad

 

[spacejamz]

I got a 2500K last week at MC. I didn't learn about the chipset limits until after my purchase. Now I'm trying to decide the wisdom of keeping it and waiting for X68. I need to decide before my 30 days return option expires.

I thought you couldn't return motherboards or CPU's at Microcenter unless they are defective.

 

[BBMW]

If you want to use the onboard graphics, buy an H67 board. Anyone buying the P67 is likely planning on using a discrete graphics card. You can do this with the H67 also.

The issue that may keep people waiting for the Z68 is if they want to use a discrete graphic card, but also use the onboard graphic processor on the SB die to do transcoding. The P67 can't do this. Reportedly the Z68 can.

 

[coffeejunkee]

Well, not a dealbreaker but still a pity is that QuickSync for video-encoding doesn't work on P67.

Also, Z68 is rumored to have igp/dedicated card switching and a ssd/hd caching function, although I'm not completely certain how this will work.

So yes, it's a bit more than ocing your naff intel IGP

 

[Battoe]

I have a laptop and another desktop I can game on. Maybe right now my current card is at it's max value I could sell it and wait a month for the new release and pick up a better card for not much difference and still be able to use my current desktop. If I would of waited for the new card release I'm out money because my current card has dropped in value.

You think that difference will be more than the price difference between P67 and Z68? Or that MAYBE having to replace your GPU and CHOOSING to wait a month later is worth avoiding by waiting a month now?

 

[Zargon]

Well, not a dealbreaker but still a pity is that QuickSync for video-encoding doesn't work on P67.

Also, Z68 is rumored to have igp/dedicated card switching and a ssd/hd caching function, although I'm not completely certain how this will work.

So yes, it's a bit more than ocing your naff intel IGP

that actually sounds interesting

 

[Concillian]

I cant understand why this would be a deal breaker for people. If you want to do your video work, get H67 and use the IGP, if you want to do gaming get P67 use a discrete card and OC.

When I'm done with my PCs they usually get handed down to my wife, and hers to her nephew or something, on down the line.

I want the option of IGP like I have the the H57 chipset / i3 I use now. When I hand down, it's nice to have the option.

It's also completely lame that they have EUs on the CPU now, they support using those EUs for things other than GPU functionality, then they say you can't do that if you buy the "advanced" chipset. It's totally silly and demonstrates how weak Intel is on the integration / software side of things. Nobody can question their hardware supremacy, but there are some significant marking and logistical mistakes with the SB launch.

The whole think is a fustercluck in my mind. let H57 change the multipliers for the people who pay for the unlocked chips for cripes sake, I mean seriously, what's the problem. Need more margin? charge another $5 for the K series, people will pay it because there is no feasible competitive option.

 

[coffeejunkee]

Not to mention the best igp is on the K models...but hey, that's Intel for ya.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

I thought you couldn't return motherboards or CPU's at Microcenter unless they are defective.

When I bought a Q9550 from them for testing I was unable to return it, sold it on ebay.

 

[d33pblue]

As someone who doesn't give a flip about gaming, I'll be glad when the day comes that I'll be able to drive two *large* LCD monitors smoothly off integrated graphics. That day hasn't come yet, but I feel that it will soon. Regardless, this won't stop me from buying a P67 Sandy bridge setup later on this month