are manuals more durable than autos?

[OS]

stock for stock, given the same model, generally speaking. Just wondering. I suspect it's true at least for most passenger cars.

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: OS
stock for stock, given the same model, generally speaking. Just wondering. I suspect it's true at least for most passenger cars.

less stuff to go wrong in a manual car than a automatic i think...

 

[Ronstang]

It really depends upon the driver.....the average person who "thinks" he is a great stick shift driver destroys clutches in 30K miles and in these cases the automatic will ususally live longer without problems. But, once again, idiot drivers can break anything!

 

[slikmunks]

it's not whether it's auto or manual, it's how you drive it and take care of it... neutral drops? high rpm shifting? riding out the car in high rpm's? downshifting a lot? riding the clutch at all?

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: OS
stock for stock, given the same model, generally speaking. Just wondering. I suspect it's true at least for most passenger cars.

Brand-new, I'd have to say that manual tranny's are more durable than an auto tranny, but like Ronstang posted, in the hands of an unexperienced driver, it's easier to "blow" a manual tranny.

 

[woodie1]

Todays automatics are very durable and with proper maintenance will last the life of the car. Clutches do wear out after a time.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: woodie1
Todays automatics are very durable and with proper maintenance will last the life of the car. Clutches do wear out after a time.

 

[RSMemphis]

I've never seen anyone needing clutch replacements after 30k miles.

I have, myself, seen several cars driven to at least 110k miles w/o needing clutch replacements, however, most automatics need rebuliding around that point.

That being said, a manual has usually a better gas mileage and develops less heat. There is a reason why there are transmission coolers.

Also, replacing a clutch costs A LOT less than rebuilding a transmission.

 

[Rallispec]

my old civic (auto) went 160k without needing any thing done to the engine at all... of course, we had a taurus which needed tranny overhauls twice before it hit 120k.


i'll let you know how long my current car lasts before it needs a new clutch... but i'm guessing (the way i drive) that i'll be one of those retards who ends up needing to replace it after 30k (becuase i had to learn how to drive stick on it)

 

[MattCo]

Originally posted by: RSMemphis
I've never seen anyone needing clutch replacements after 30k miles.

I have, myself, seen several cars driven to at least 110k miles w/o needing clutch replacements, however, most automatics need rebuliding around that point.

That being said, a manual has usually a better gas mileage and develops less heat. There is a reason why there are transmission coolers.

Also, replacing a clutch costs A LOT less than rebuilding a transmission.

I dated a girl that went through a cluch in 24,000 miles.... she should have went the auto route.

-MC

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: OS
stock for stock, given the same model, generally speaking. Just wondering. I suspect it's true at least for most passenger cars.

Yes, without any doubt at all... you could ask the manufacturers the same question and they would give you the same answer...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
It really depends upon the driver.....the average person who "thinks" he is a great stick shift driver destroys clutches in 30K miles and in these cases the automatic will ususally live longer without problems. But, once again, idiot drivers can break anything!

Yes, the manual clutches can wear out pretty quick, but it's cheap and easy to fix...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: woodie1
Todays automatics are very durable and with proper maintenance will last the life of the car. Clutches do wear out after a time.

Go soak someone with the house...

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
It really depends upon the driver.....the average person who "thinks" he is a great stick shift driver destroys clutches in 30K miles and in these cases the automatic will ususally live longer without problems. But, once again, idiot drivers can break anything!

I second that. Depends on the driver and how well the car is maintained.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Both automatics and manuals have wear items. But the wear item in manuals (clutch) need to be replaced more often, but is more odvious; than the wear items in automatics (clutch packs). When an automatic's clutch packs need to be replaced, it requires a complete rebuild where a manual you just pull the tranny back, swap out the disk and throwout bearing, and possibly resurface the flywheel. Not unlike a brake job. Just not as convinient. When it comes to the transmissions themselves, automatics can generally handle torque better. They are like this because of the planetary gearset, it transmits the torque across three places vs. the manual's one place. Of course, not all transmissions are designed with the same care.