Are MAGA conspiracy theorists, QAnoners, Trumpers, Fox Newsers addicted to rage?

Indus

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Genuine question since you can’t help someone who doesn’t want that help.

Chasing the dragon amongst drug addicts is chasing the feeling of that high.

Is it similar with them chasing that rage which gets their blood pumping?
 

Greenman

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I chat with a few of the Q crowd and for them, it's not anger, it's religion. Q is viewed as being an infallible source of information that leads to an understanding of how the world really works. Their faith is absolutely unshakeable.
 
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Amused

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It's form of religious righteousness. Plus the smug feeling of they are onto something no one else knows combined with the affirmation of their cult.

It's in their slogans.

"If you know, you know"

Where we go one, we go all."

Just like a cult, the ridicule and rejection of critical thinkers just confirms their beliefs and ties them even tighter to the cult family ("frens").

Just like a cult they are sent on digital "missions" to "red pill" non-believers (ever wonder why social media posts are filled with comments from conspiracy cult followers?). The rejection and ridicule they face makes the cult ties stronger.

Conspirituality: The new religion.

This applies to Qanon, anti-vaxxers, climate change denialists, flat earthers, chemtrail believers, alt-med followers illuminati believers, etc...

They're all cults.
 

fskimospy

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I chat with a few of the Q crowd and for them, it's not anger, it's religion. Q is viewed as being an infallible source of information that leads to an understanding of how the world really works. Their faith is absolutely unshakeable.
What's odd about that is Q has made numerous predictions that have turned out to be ludicrously wrong. While I'm not a religious person usually prophets are smart enough to keep their predictions general so that they are never exactly 'wrong'. In the case of Q President Trump was supposed to arrest this imagined pedo cabal and...well...he didn't. You would think that would be more of a problem.
 

Amused

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What's odd about that is Q has made numerous predictions that have turned out to be ludicrously wrong. While I'm not a religious person usually prophets are smart enough to keep their predictions general so that they are never exactly 'wrong'. In the case of Q President Trump was supposed to arrest this imagined pedo cabal and...well...he didn't. You would think that would be more of a problem.

They literally moved the goal post. Now everything is on a 2,3,4 and now 5 year "delta."

"Future proves past."

Those predictions weren't in real time, they claim. They were on a (insert year here) delta and when ever they do happen, or anything that can be construed as them happening, well, that proves it was true.
 

shortylickens

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We've already had this discussion many times.
The manipulators find it easier to exploit the ignorant. Religion is a great place to start because it prioritizes blind belief over understanding and builds up a whole system to control and manipulate people.
One of the things manipulators realized is its even easier to get the ignorant to do what you want if they are afraid, which can easily be swayed to anger because fearful cowardly people do not like admitting they are afraid. Steer them towards anger and you can exploit them however you want. It used to be holy wars but now its just taking their money.

Trump kind of knows it, but he was never as skilled as any of the others.
Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, Newt Gingrich, Rupert Murdoch, and Joel Osteen all have different approaches but basically, they all fleece their sheep regularly.
Rupert is probably the smartest of the bunch. He made hundreds of billions and kept himself personally insulated from any legal repercussions.

So yeah, its a cult of angry, but for a very specific reason: To be more controllable. And the best part of it is MOST of these people think they're really fuckin clever and none of them can see how easily they are controlled. They have been brainwashed for decades to get angry about very specific things and stay that way just long enough for the people truly in power to get what they want. Its a system that's actually thousands of years old, just extremely well-refined. The 20th century nazis were good at it too.
By all right NO ADULT should have even considered storming the capital with guns. But there were literally thousands of them out there.
67 million fools voted for an obviously unqualified candidate and even though it was painfully clear he couldn't do the job, he got 70 million votes the second time around. Which says nothing about the orange rapist and everything about the propaganda machine and American ignorance.
Do not mistake the situation: Donald was never the problem. He is the result of an incredibly corrupt and evil system build and manipulated by much more dangerous men.
Lauren and Marjorie are also not the problem. They're just broken pawns in a huge fuckin chess match. Which is why they are angry true believers and not the manipulators. They're too dumb to manipulate. They are larger sheep with bells, nothing else.
 

fskimospy

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They literally moved the goal post. Now everything is on a 2,3,4 and now 5 year "delta."

"Future proves past."

Those predictions weren't in real time, they claim. They were on a (insert year here) delta and when ever they do happen, or anything that can be construed as them happening, well, that proves it was true.
So the idea is Trump is still planning on taking down the pedo cabal but decided to lose the election, get reinstated, then not get reinstated, then win again in 2024 and this time he means it?

lol.
 

brycejones

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So the idea is Trump is still planning on taking down the pedo cabal but decided to lose the election, get reinstated, then not get reinstated, then win again in 2024 and this time he means it?

lol.
It's all part of the plan. This way they get the really smart deep state folks who successfully hid under Trump and now feel safe to do their evil doing with Biden in office.

Also Trump is still president and Biden is just pretending to be president or something.
 
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It's all part of the plan. This way they get the really smart deep state folks who successfully hid under Trump and now feel safe to do their evil doing with Biden in office.

Also Trump is still president and Biden is just pretending to be president or something.

He's a clone. On a soundstage. Real one was executed. Like 3 times. Along with Hillary and Tom Hanks. Or so I've been told by the faithful.
 
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Captante

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At this juncture I feel it's an appropriate time to remind everyone that Q-Anon's origin was in reality a 4chan practical joke.

So yeah.... if you know, you know. :rolleyes:
 
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Moonbeam

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We live in a competitive culture where the best man wins. That means there is one winner and billions of losers. So tell you what, "You tell me I'm a winner and I'll tell you the same and we can start a winner's cult." What do you bet the culture of competition will produce tons of people who have been made to feel like garbage that will join my cult if only to get revenge? We can form the cult 'Losers United' but we will have to call it something else.
 

Greenman

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What's odd about that is Q has made numerous predictions that have turned out to be ludicrously wrong. While I'm not a religious person usually prophets are smart enough to keep their predictions general so that they are never exactly 'wrong'. In the case of Q President Trump was supposed to arrest this imagined pedo cabal and...well...he didn't. You would think that would be more of a problem.
The predictions that didn't happen were false flag operations run by the black hats. This is actually proof that Q is the real deal because these things are done to throw him off. Why would they bother if he wasn't reporting real information? Connect the dots man, it's all right there.
Yes, that's actually been said.
 

brycejones

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The predictions that didn't happen were false flag operations run by the black hats. This is actually proof that Q is the real deal because these things are done to throw him off. Why would they bother if he wasn't reporting real information? Connect the dots man, it's all right there.
Yes, that's actually been said.
So exactly the same as discussions here right?

/s
 

Moonbeam

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At this juncture I feel it's an appropriate time to remind everyone that Q-Anon's origin was in reality a 4chan practical joke.

So yeah.... if you know, you know. :rolleyes:
All repressed feelings of worthlessness find their way into humor. Self deprivation in it's multitudinous forms is the ego's way of pretending not to exist. Thank God at least I don't myself feel a need to do that. It would just be redundant. :)
 

eelw

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This applies to Qanon, anti-vaxxers, climate change denialists, flat earthers, chemtrail believers, alt-med followers illuminati believers, etc...

They're all cults.
Oh look, the Venn diagram for all the above is a perfect circle
 
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balloonshark

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It's more about outrage. This light-hearted but accurate video is good for both sides to watch. We're not only fighting against the other side, we are fighting against those instigating and profiting off of them.

*** NSFW Language ***
 

BonzaiDuck

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"Beliefs may not get you a dime for a cup of coffee" -- my slogan.

No facts, no inferential logic, then no common sense.

And in all that, you will never be able to convince some of those people.

They're also deeply fearful about a bogeyman they call "socialism" -- "creeping socialism" and other terms. More often, they can't accept the thought that some public goods are best provided by government, and so to this they erect a total denial of the problems that cannot be solved any other way.

You'll have better luck humiliating and shunning them. You'll never be able to have a civil, cogent discussion grounded in the Truth.

They all have this idea that political belief is equivalent to religious belief, or that an abstract political belief trumps practical reality.
 
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Indus

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"Beliefs may not get you a dime for a cup of coffee" -- my slogan.

No facts, no inferential logic, then no common sense.

And in all that, you will never be able to convince some of those people.

Some?

They didn't learn after January 6th.. what makes you think they will learn now?

They don't want democracy, they want their version of it where they never lose and we're subservient to them.