Are HIS rebates a scam?

konakona

Diamond Member
May 6, 2004
6,285
1
0
I have done a couple hundred dollar's worth rebates this year alone (many from antec), and was lucky enough to miss not a single one.

Newegg happened to have this HIS HD4850 card bundled with GRID racing at a good price after rebate, so I jumped on it to sell my HD3870 to a friend. The card got here, replaced the older card without any trouble. Now, I am looking at the rebate details and they list both "the original packing slip" and an invoice as documents to send in. Never have I seen such requirement in any other rebate, so I did some googling to find someone at NCIX claming that his got cancelled due to absence of his packing slip.

I admit it was partly my mistake to skip reading between the lines part before commiting to a purchase, but cmon... who the hell asks for both packing slip AND sales receipt anyway? If it is like that guy said, then too bad I guess I am SOL. The hell with HIS rebates! :|
 

Elcs

Diamond Member
Apr 27, 2002
6,278
6
81
That stinks.

I am so glad that in the UK, we do not have this rebate culture firmly embedded into our Computer lineup. I couldnt be bothered with the hassle.

Shame we pay so much more for our goods than you guys. I dropped around £180 ($350ish) on an 8800GT when they were released and £190 ($370ish) on an HD4870 on the day they came out.
 

CP5670

Diamond Member
Jun 24, 2004
5,697
798
126
HIS is known to be dodgy with their warranty as well, so I wouldn't be surprised.
 

LordGestle

Senior member
Jan 2, 2001
764
0
0
I know I double checked it as well and saw the same requirement. I thought it was a typo but included both. I show it was received and in process, so I guess we will need to wait and see.
I had another, not his, that required you to placed additional comments on the back of the envelope in addition to having the mailing address on the front, invoice, upc, and rebate form with item/date circled.
I'm just waiting for the notarized requirment:(
 

Quiksilver

Diamond Member
Jul 3, 2005
4,725
0
71
:S Newegg gives you the packing slip... so does zipzoomfly. You can just print out a copy of your sales reciept from either too... so I don't see what the problem is.
 

QuixoticOne

Golden Member
Nov 4, 2005
1,855
0
0
HIS, Sapphire, et. al. are on my "do not ever buy from" list for shenanigans like this.
Rebates suck and generally I don't buy things with MIRs or if I do it is from companies with an excellent reputation of fulfilling them without trying to further scam you.

I usually go online with Newegg, print out the invoice from my Order History, and also copy the packing slip and send that as well. Often I print the invoice / packing slip photocopy onto the same physical page as the rebate form, so they can't claim it wasn't received together.
I scan / photograph everything sent, staple & tape the UPC on multiple times with a big box and label "UPC ATTACHED HERE" around it so they can't claim they didn't receive it.

For anything particularly valuable I send it certified mail too.

 

terpsy

Platinum Member
May 30, 2000
2,567
51
91
Personally, I will NEVER buy another Diamond Product again.

The two times I had mailed in for rebates, BOTH got Denied.

And I could not find a working number to contact.

I got the email that something was missing and they would be denying my rebate.

I HATE companies like that, and always tell people buy anything but a DIAMOND product, they will screw you.

 

konakona

Diamond Member
May 6, 2004
6,285
1
0
Originally posted by: Quiksilver
:S Newegg gives you the packing slip... so does zipzoomfly. You can just print out a copy of your sales reciept from either too... so I don't see what the problem is.

If I hadn't made it clear in my initial post, I am not in a habit of collecting packing slips when I am certain everything arrived safely.

HIS, Sapphire, et. al. are on my "do not ever buy from" list for shenanigans like this.
Rebates suck and generally I don't buy things with MIRs or if I do it is from companies with an excellent reputation of fulfilling them without trying to further scam you.
I knew enough to stay away from sapphire, but not HIS. The only experience I have had with them was the 3870 I am ditching now, and it was nothing but great. oh well, you learn something new everyday I guess :(

The issue has been solved in a happy ending; newegg rep was kind enough to offer me a special $20 discount from my next purchase, and at the rate I buy stuff from egg this just saves me hassle of sending in the rebate. Gotta love newegg! :heart:
 

QuixoticOne

Golden Member
Nov 4, 2005
1,855
0
0
Check out the dispute policy of your credit card company if you bought the items with a credit card.

In general I believe it is a true statement that if the merchant advertises a product as having X features, X rebate, X warranty, etc. and the product that is delivered doesn't match the advertised deal / rebate / features, or if they don't send the product at all, or whatever and charge your card you can dispute the charges because the transaction wasn't honored in that they didn't deliver everything according to their claims about the product and the overall deal concerning it.

At that point the credit card company has to investigate it with the merchant and also with the rebate company if a rebate was advertised as being available. If they can't prove that they honored every bit of the advertised deal and delivered everything promised (including the advertised rebate), the credit card company can and will refund your money for the transaction and the merchant doesn't get to charge you for something that isn't delivered as advertised in full including the promotions / rebates / discount / warranty / whatever.

If you have photo copies of the rebate stuff you sent in and any other possible relevant material like a screen shot of the product advertisement page advertising the rebate promotion then it will be pretty easy for you to dispute that you should've gotten something out of the transaction that you were promised that they didn't deliver in good faith / competence. Since you got a notification from the rebate company that they DID receive your submission they can't deny that they received it at all, so the only thing they could claim is that you didn't submit it properly, but given their bad reputation for trying to scam people they owe money to and their general reputation for incompetent processing of many rebates it will not be difficult to prevail in the dispute unless they have very strong and visible proof that you aren't owed the rebate. The CC company will definitely do everything up to demanding the original copies of the rebate stuff the rebate processor received from you, and if they don't submit it or there's any doubt that they conveniently 'lost' part of the submission, you'll win.

IMHO it is only by making it an annoyance for the credit card companies and the merchants that participate in the rebate scam that the practice of these dishonest rebates will end. If more people either sued them or disputed the transaction with the CC company it'd end up costing them more to try to scam consumers than just playing fair or just not doing rebates at all and having actual SALES with no strings attached.

EDIT: PS that's why I usually do stuff like print the receipt/invoice photocopy on the SAME piece of paper as the rebate form, and when I attach anything like the UPC I'll STAPLE and TAPE it numerous times and then mark around the edge "UPC ATTACHED RIGHT HERE" in ink, etc. so basically they'd have to physically destroy your rebate submission to "lose" any part of it, and it'd be totally obvious if they did detach anything. I take a picture / scan of the assembled bits, and send it in. There can never be any question at that point that it was all there together and filled out properly, and once they send you an email / post card saying they received the submission they can't claim they didn't get it.
At that point if they give you any problem you've got more than enough convincing evidence to dispute it to the CC company or sue or whatever you need to do.
I won't play their games with their lying customer disservice representatives who will promise you they'll take care of it and then do nothing after hours on hold / getting screwed around etc.


Originally posted by: terpsy
Personally, I will NEVER buy another Diamond Product again.

The two times I had mailed in for rebates, BOTH got Denied.

And I could not find a working number to contact.

I got the email that something was missing and they would be denying my rebate.

I HATE companies like that, and always tell people buy anything but a DIAMOND product, they will screw you.