Are dinosaurs really 65m years old?

[Scotteq]

. We don't have any proof that dogs came from wolves.

ISBN 9780856687044 - "DOGS IN ANTIQUITY Anubis to Cerberus: The Origins of the Domestic Dog." - Douglas Brewer

Origin = Wolf

 

[JTsyo]

Don't crocodiles date back a few million years?

Wiki says 55 million years.

 

[Nik]

Don't crocodiles date back a few million years?

Wiki says 55 million years.

You get out of here with your logic and reason!

 

[slayer202]

Threads like this should just be deleted

 

[Atomic Playboy]

There is neither proof for evolution nor creationism, so that's why it's impossible to find out who is right. However, the idea that a supreme being created the earth and life (or even a literal interpretation of the Torah) makes far more sense than the big bang theory, at least to me.

You're confusing evolution with abiogenesis. The theory of evolution does not address the question of where life came from, it addresses how life has changed over time through a combination of mutation, adaptation and natural selection. The theory of evolution works in conjunction with both abiogenesis or creationism, so to try to craft a religious argument against it is illogical. But it's flat out wrong to say there is no proof of evolution; we've observed it in labs with bacteria. Macro-level evolution is impossible to observe because the changes take millions of years, but we can extrapolate our small-scale observations to the larger scale.

Well, many people do say that dinosaurs existed 65million years ago.

I don't have any proof that the Torah (or faithfully translated Old Testament) is correct, no one does, but the evidence I have gathered to support my conclusion is:
life cannot come from non-life.

Again, you're conflating evolution with abiogenesis; these are two separate ideas, and until you realize that, your arguments make no sense. But independent of that, the very notion that life cannot come from non-life is not entirley clear. Scientists have managed to create amino acids, the building blocks of proteins and life, from lifeless matter in lab experiments designed to approximate the conditions on Earth billions of years ago. Even if there was a God who created life, is God a living being? If not, you have life springing from non-life. If God is alive, who created him? What came before God? This discussion gets philosophical very quickly, but what's clear is that we can't know for certain that life cannot come from non-life, so your point is invalid.

God was neither a male nor a female, so God doesn't have a physical form, which means God could've been eternal.

This is impossible to know. Have you ever met God? Have you spoken with God? Whether or not God exists is the subject of no small scholarly debate; you've not only managed to prove God exists but also what form God happens to take? There is absolutely no evidence to support this conclusion, so the fact that you offer it up as evidence in and of itself means you don't know what the word evidence means.

half lifing or radiocarbon dating could be inaccurate, it could've been tested incorrectly, there could've been something on or in the fossils that there wasn't supposed to be, etc., etc.

There could've been a million errors made when the evolutionists originally determined dinosaurs existed 6 million years ago. Or maybe they just flat out lied and made it all up or twisted things around.

There could have been a million errors made when ancient theologians wrote the Bible, or when other theologians translated it, or when other theologians interpreted it. At least the scientific method is falsifiable and testable. Many, many experiments have been done with carbon dating, as well as other methods of dating ancient objects, and as more experiments get done, the scientific community discovers errors and corrects them. When an error is discovered in the Bible, there is no revision made, it is simply glossed over. Based on this alone, the scientific method is a better place to turn if you are interested in facts.

The only 2 things going for evolution of which one is one of many things going for creationism--no absolute proof. The other is that some people look like monkeys, but that doesn't mean anything because my late bitch sounded like a wolf when she barked. We don't have any proof that dogs came from wolves.

This demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding about the basics of evolution, not to mention some thinly veiled racism. Are you honestly trying to argue that we have no proof of evolution but we do have proof of creationism? As I mentioned earlier, the two are not mutually exclusive; God could easily have created life, then let natural selection take over. And we do have some proof that dogs and wolves have a common ancestor; dogs and wolves are able to breed with each other and produce viable offspring. The only way that they can do that it because they are different subspecies within the same species.

I'd suggest you read more about evolution and the theory of natural selection before you dismiss it as being incompatible with creationsim; it isn't. Evolution is the most divisive topic in the scientific world in the last 150 years; thousands of experiments have been designed to try to show that it is wrong. And yet, the data always confirms that species do evolve over time. Even the Pope has admitted that evolution exists. Stop trying to use religion as an argument against observable facts.

 

[torpid]

The only science-based area that a rational person could read up on and believe some 2000 year old book makes more sense than is psychotherapy. It is not evolution.

 

[LegendKiller]

Yet another Anarchist420 Petitio Principii troll thread.

 

[Soundmanred]

Yes. Cadillacs are also 65m years old.

Capcom knows more about the ancient world than one might believe...

 

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[jhbball]

He's going to tie this to the federalist papers, or a founding father.

 

[Codewiz]

It was It wasn't a parody, nor was it meant it to be flamebait.

Thanks for a decent reply
There is neither proof for evolution nor creationism, so that's why it's impossible to find out who is right. However, the idea that a supreme being created the earth and life (or even a literal interpretation of the Torah) makes far more sense than the big bang theory, at least to me.

Well, many people do say that dinosaurs existed 65million years ago.

I don't have any proof that the Torah (or faithfully translated Old Testament) is correct, no one does, but the evidence I have gathered to support my conclusion is:
life cannot come from non-life.
God was neither a male nor a female, so God doesn't have a physical form, which means God could've been eternal.
half lifing or radiocarbon dating could be inaccurate, it could've been tested incorrectly, there could've been something on or in the fossils that there wasn't supposed to be, etc., etc.

There could've been a million errors made when the evolutionists originally determined dinosaurs existed 6 million years ago. Or maybe they just flat out lied and made it all up or twisted things around.

The only 2 things going for evolution of which one is one of many things going for creationism--no absolute proof. The other is that some people look like monkeys, but that doesn't mean anything because my late bitch sounded like a wolf when she barked. We don't have any proof that dogs came from wolves.

Shit, how could you be so dense. Ever heard of DNA? How about the human genome project. They pretty much validate evolution.

Additionally, as a wiseman once said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

Evolution has extraordinary evidence, nothing else does.

 

[torpid]

Wait... so we are also now questioning that domesticated dogs are descended from wolves now too? Is this part of the creationist rhetoric and I'm just slow to learn of this absurdity?

 

[Acanthus]

65 micro years wouldnt be long at all.

65 * 10^-6 = .00065 years.

Dinosaurs are not 2049.84 seconds old.

 

[Gibsons]

 

[irishScott]

 

[Oyeve]

Who's Jesus?

 

[OCGuy]

Jesus touched my no-no square.