Are Democrats getting too cocky?

[techs]

It seems to me Democrats are already "measuring the drapes" in the White House.
If someone posts a thread on the possiblilty of McCain winning its as if they posted a thread on the world being flat.
People need to wake up and smell the reality. This is still a VERY close race and could swing on bit of news, geopolitical or financial.
A lot depends on the debate tonite and on Obama's half hour reality show/political ad.
To paraphrase another Democratic President:
If you support Obama, ask not what Obama can do for you, but what you can do for Obama.
If Democrats have learned ANYTHING its the Republican campaign machine is formidable.
Never stop fighting until the fight is over.
I won't rest easy until I see Obama take the oath of office.

 

[AnnonUSA]

Please explain something specific about Obama's plans for America that would make you "rest easy".

Something more substantial than, he is not McCain.

 

[Mursilis]

Sure, anything could happen, but it's not bloodly likely. McCain's goose is cooked at this point. It's obvious Obama's going to be the next president, and I'm not even a supporter of either of those two clowns.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: AnnonUSA
Please explain something specific about Obama's plans for America that would make you "rest easy".

Something more substantial than, he is not McCain.

He's going to give healthcare to all, and also restore fiscal conservatism to the gov't! Right after that, he'll turn water to wine, and then walk on the wine. Should be quite a show.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: AnnonUSA
Please explain something specific about Obama's plans for America that would make you "rest easy".

Something more substantial than, he is not McCain.

If you're not convinced yet, you never will be.

 

[Pepsei]

right, anything can happened in 3 weeks. i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

 

[Stuxnet]

techs, are you paid on a per-thread basis? Seriously.

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: AnnonUSA
Please explain something specific about Obama's plans for America that would make you "rest easy".

Something more substantial than, he is not McCain.

He's going to give healthcare to all, and also restore fiscal conservatism to the gov't! Right after that, he'll turn water to wine, and then walk on the wine. Should be quite a show.

LMAO

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
right, anything can happened in 3 weeks.

i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

Still don't see Obama overcoming the Electoral vote.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pepsei
right, anything can happened in 3 weeks.

i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

Still don't see Obama overcoming the Electoral vote.

Because you are an imbecile. Even Republicans know that McCain has lost this.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pepsei
right, anything can happened in 3 weeks.

i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

Still don't see Obama overcoming the Electoral vote.

Because you are an imbecile. Even Republicans know that McCain has lost this.

What swing states has he lost?

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pepsei
right, anything can happened in 3 weeks.

i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

Still don't see Obama overcoming the Electoral vote.

Because you are an imbecile. Even Republicans know that McCain has lost this.

Yep (it's over and Dave is an imbecile). I'm not a huge fan of the Republican Party, but I'm an even lesser fan of the Democratic Party. That said, I told my wife before the 2nd debate that, barring a murder confession from Obama, it's not happening.

Of course, I'm not all that heart broken. McCain's antics over these past few weeks have made him even less palatable than he already was (for me). On top of that, I think Sarah Palin has definitely NOT panned out like McCain (and myself, frankly) had hoped. I thought she was a good move *assuming* she was "clean" and well-versed; it turns out she was neither.

I admittedly still have concerns over Obama's past and his pattern of associate->denounce->associate->denounce, but other than that, I don't see much that separates the two candidates. I certainly prefer Obama's personality over McCain's, but I think McCain would have been far more bipartisan than Obama will be, especially with a totally Democratic government on the horizon. <- scary

Neither of them are what this country needs (economic conservatism), and both are delusional about who in this country needs help and how to effectively go about helping them. From a foreign policy standpoint, I don't have a problem with either candidate and think both will make good progress in this regard over the next four years; but hell, any of us could do that after the last eight years.

 

[Lemon law]

This thread has basically proven tech's point, too many democrats are getting too cocky, and we need to beware of the ides of October. Who knows what late breaking October surprise might be coming, or what swiftboats will be launched. Now is not the time for overconfidence. Not when Karl Rove is out there and scheming, and quite a few real rats are worried they will go to jail under any kind of a just Justice Department.
Nor should we dismiss Cheney who while not very visible lately, is up to no good no doubt.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pepsei
right, anything can happened in 3 weeks.

i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

Still don't see Obama overcoming the Electoral vote.

Because you are an imbecile. Even Republicans know that McCain has lost this.

Yep (it's over and Dave is an imbecile).

What swing states has McCain lost?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pepsei
right, anything can happened in 3 weeks.

i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

Still don't see Obama overcoming the Electoral vote.

Because you are an imbecile. Even Republicans know that McCain has lost this.

What swing states has he lost?

Stop it.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I am not cocky at all, the last time I was cocky was dumbya v kerry, and this country elected that smacktard for a second term. I will not rest easy, nor will I doubt any other Obama voter, until he takes the oath of office. I've seen too much go too wrong with our voting system over the past 2 presidential elections. 2000 pretty much destroyed all trust I had in the voting process.

 

[JJChicken]

DONT JINZ IT

K THX BYE

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I am not cocky at all, the last time I was cocky was dumbya v kerry, and this country elected that smacktard for a second term. I will not rest easy, nor will I doubt any other Obama voter, until he takes the oath of office. I've seen too much go too wrong with our voting system over the past 2 presidential elections. 2000 pretty much destroyed all trust I had in the voting process.

Nearly 3/4 of a million votes stand to be thrown out in Ohio before they even get a chance to be cast for Obama.

McCain wins Ohio easily

10-15-2008 Federal court: Ohio must check voter registrations

COLUMBUS, Ohio - A federal appeals court ordered Ohio's top elections official to set up a system by Friday to verify the eligibility of newly registered voters and make the information available to the state's 88 county election boards.

The full 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati on Tuesday upheld a lower court ruling that Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner must use other government records to check thousands of new voters for registration fraud.

About 666,000 Ohioans have registered to vote since January, with many doing so before the contested Democratic presidential primary election last March

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: techs
It seems to me Democrats are already "measuring the drapes" in the White House.
If someone posts a thread on the possiblilty of McCain winning its as if they posted a thread on the world being flat.
People need to wake up and smell the reality. This is still a VERY close race and could swing on bit of news, geopolitical or financial.
A lot depends on the debate tonite and on Obama's half hour reality show/political ad.
To paraphrase another Democratic President:
If you support Obama, ask not what Obama can do for you, but what you can do for Obama.
If Democrats have learned ANYTHING its the Republican campaign machine is formidable.
Never stop fighting until the fight is over.
I won't rest easy until I see Obama take the oath of office.

You are regurgitating a talking point of McCain. If you find any prominent Democrat saying this is wrapped up post it. You won't find one because they all know anything can happen. It will be a McCain tactic to claim the Democrats are claiming inevitability, trying the furthur anger the electorate.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pepsei
right, anything can happened in 3 weeks.

i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

Still don't see Obama overcoming the Electoral vote.

It would look something like this.

http://www.realclearpolitics.c...bama_vs_mccain/?map=10

real clear politics is by far the best. It averages all polls, not just one, or a few. This is the latest count. Granted things may change, and it will likely get closer as Nov 4 approaches... but its looking really good right now. A few percentage points in general election usually means a large electoral victory.

/edit or if you want to take out hte close ones... try this. http://www.realclearpolitics.c...obama_vs_mccain/?map=5

It still clearly shows that something MAJOR has to happen for McCain to take the lead.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pepsei
right, anything can happened in 3 weeks.

i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

Still don't see Obama overcoming the Electoral vote.

Because you are an imbecile. Even Republicans know that McCain has lost this.

Yep (it's over and Dave is an imbecile).

What swing states has McCain lost?

Take your pick, dave:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
http://www.realclearpolitics.c...bama_vs_mccain/?map=10

EDIT: Please remember that McCain has only raised around $200 Million, and Obama is over $500 Million and counting.. And, to this point, it seems to me that Obama hasn't really spent a ton of money, that he's been saving most of it for the end of October / early November.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pepsei
right, anything can happened in 3 weeks.

i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

Still don't see Obama overcoming the Electoral vote.

It would look something like this.

http://www.realclearpolitics.c...bama_vs_mccain/?map=10

real clear politics is by far the best. It averages all polls, not just one, or a few. This is the latest count. Granted things may change, and it will likely get closer as Nov 4 approaches... but its looking really good right now. A few percentage points in general election usually means a large electoral victory.

/edit or if you want to take out hte close ones... try this. http://www.realclearpolitics.c...obama_vs_mccain/?map=5

It still clearly shows that something MAJOR has to happen for McCain to take the lead.

Dave doesn't care, he already knows that McCain has won with electoral votes. Your facts and links and statistics all take the backseat to his prophecies. He is proven time and time again to be 110% right 200% of the time.

 

[AstroManLuca]

dmcowen is one of the stupidest people on AT. Don't try to argue with him.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I am not cocky at all, the last time I was cocky was dumbya v kerry, and this country elected that smacktard for a second term. I will not rest easy, nor will I doubt any other Obama voter, until he takes the oath of office. I've seen too much go too wrong with our voting system over the past 2 presidential elections. 2000 pretty much destroyed all trust I had in the voting process.

I think McCain is toast, but on the other hand I think the Dems just might lose control of the Senate. If they do then Techs question will be answered for him.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I am not cocky at all, the last time I was cocky was dumbya v kerry, and this country elected that smacktard for a second term. I will not rest easy, nor will I doubt any other Obama voter, until he takes the oath of office. I've seen too much go too wrong with our voting system over the past 2 presidential elections. 2000 pretty much destroyed all trust I had in the voting process.

I think McCain is toast, but on the other hand I think the Dems just might lose control of the Senate.

Which would be FANTASTIC. I don't want Democrats OR Republicans to hold the White House AND the Senate.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pepsei
right, anything can happened in 3 weeks.

i'm just worried about the 'electoral' votes.

Still don't see Obama overcoming the Electoral vote.

Because you are an imbecile. Even Republicans know that McCain has lost this.

What swing states has he lost?

all of them, now he's busy losing the state that repubs haven't lost in a generation, and once he's done with that, he is going to tear apart the republican party so hard that 2008 will be considered a realignment year.